Remote start install in car!

joy123

Does anybody know a place in ireland, who does install remote start in my passat, and how much they charge? I been thinking to get one after market, but not brave enough to put it myself. Thanks in advance.

Barr

Most places that install car alarms would be able to set it up - they are not that complicated to install

joy123

Ya will try in galway, see which one cheapest.

Gumbo

joy123 wrote: »

Does anybody know a place in ireland, who does install remote start in my passat, and how much they charge? I been thinking to get one after market, but not brave enough to put it myself. Thanks in advance.

once you know that most of these alarms have to bypass your immobiliser in order for them to work, so basically your car can start with a lollypop stick afterwards (once they get into the car by the alarm of course!)

i dont see the appeal of them tbh

joy123

Thats true, any suggestion for a good one?

colm_mcm

kceire wrote: »

once you know that most of these alarms have to bypass your immobiliser in order for them to work, so basically your car can start with a lollypop stick afterwards (once they get into the car by the alarm of course!)

i dont see the appeal of them tbh

Is that definitely true, I made this point HERE!!!previously and was told otherwise.

It's something I miss from my old car, not sure why you'd need one for a Passat though.

5500

If there's a factory fitted immobilisor it needs to be bypassed for the car to remote start,the way its done is a key/chopped key fob is hidden somewhere in the car and a transponder then runs to the barrel so when the alarm goes to remote start the ecu think's that a key is there and no immobilisor is active.

So it's then easy then to hotwire or backbarrel the car.BUT obviously the car is going to have an additional immobilisor with the alarm which you would now be depending on to stop the scrote having a go,but i would much rather a factory immobilisor solely over an aftermarket alarm.

Unless your car is a jap import or has no immobilisor as standard i wouldnt go down the road of remote start,besides most people who get it will tell you they rarely if even use it,myself included!

Alun

One question ... why?

Owen

I was considering one a few years back, but the downside apart from bypassing immobilisers, is that you have to leave your car in neutral, so if your handbrake fails, you've no fallback.

5500

Some people like them for cold or hot mornings (start the car and have it warm or aircon running and it cool) Any decent system should also have a turbotimer setting,so again on the likes of evo's impreza's ect they come in handy so you dont need an additional turbotimer

colm_mcm

I used to remote start mine because the MIVEC variable valve timing only works when the water is up to temp, and I only feel comfortable ragging the car with the oil up to temp too. It also meant the car was toasty warm in the winter mornings.

joy123

i only want to use it for winter morning, called AAA today, they quote me €700 (part supply + fitted) for the cheapest one. expensive:(

Owen

colm_mcm wrote: »

It also meant the car was toasty warm in the winter mornings.

This is something I really don't get. There's a demand or pre-heaters for cars in colder countries such as ours. Some vans have it as an option (The Ducato I believe), BMW's 7 Series has it as an option, but no others as far as I can see.

MINI have been playing with a product called Thermocall since 2001 without releasing it. The idea was you have a pre-paid sim-card in a unit under the bonnet, you text it and it uses the battery to electrically warm the car by means of a heating element inserted into one of the engine's frost plugs. They've never brought it to market, despite it appearing in numerous press packs when new cars were launched.

I think it really and truly should be an option on cars at this point. I have a heated front and rear windscreen, heated seats, heated mirrors and washer jets, but no heated engine

mik_da_man

Yeah I know what you mean.
The engine warmer is an option in the Focus in Nordic countries.
Not here.
Though I heard the setup for it would weigh a fair bit - maybe that's the issue?

Owen

mik_da_man wrote: »

Though I heard the setup for it would weigh a fair bit - maybe that's the issue?

Depends on the setup, the system I saw was a miniature electric kettle type element that just screwed into the engine, and had a very small control unit and relay. It's a huge pity that more manufacturers don't offer it TBH.

galwaytt

so, we end up with:

1. Car started remotely, you inside having the ready-brek, and some opportunist just sits in and drives away..........?
2. Car started remotely, but you left it in gear......and shoots through the patio door.


Yep, I can see the attraction all right.........:rolleyes:

BlackWizard

I find my car doesn't heat up if I let it idle in the morning. I could leave it there for 5min and the blowers will only be blowing cold air. The engine might be warmer but the oil temp gage still reads cold.

However, if I drive it for five minutes the blowers will have hot air, seats heated and oil temp guage reading a bit warmer.

Is there any danger if installing a remote start and letting your car idle for a few minutes every morning? Like any damage being done to the engine?

Owen

BlackWizard wrote: »

Is there any danger if installing a remote start and letting your car idle for a few minutes every morning? Like any damage being done to the engine?

Depends on the car, but my own experience used to make me always let an engine idle, go through the warmup routine of the car over-revving (Like a choke) and idling down and letting oil get up from the sump to the galleries to prevent any of the cams scoring before driving off.

5500

galwaytt wrote: »

so, we end up with:

1. Car started remotely, you inside having the ready-brek, and some opportunist just sits in and drives away..........?
2. Car started remotely, but you left it in gear......and shoots through the patio door.


Yep, I can see the attraction all right.........:rolleyes:

The car cant be driven away,speaking specifically about clifford remote start,the alarm is still active even though the car is started,so if a door is opened or the alarm triggered the car automatically cuts out and immobilises untill disarmed.

If the alarm hasnt been activated and the car is remote started,it still cant be driven off without the keys,once the handbrake is dropped or break pressed without the key in the ignition turned to on again the car will cut out.

As for starting in gear,when you stop the car and put it into neutral,you need to press a button combination on the keyfob to "prime" the alarm to start,this must be done each time you wish to remote start and resets itself if the alarm has been triggered