Terminal 1 Extension DA

Stevek101

Does any one have any recent picture of this extension. I am curious about the finished interior! It is due to open on the 20th of April.

Barname

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Tenger

Stevek101 wrote: »

Does any one have any recent picture of this extension. I am curious about the finished interior! It is due to open on the 20th of April.

Sorry only got shots of the exterior........
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tearbringer/3235577982/


Check this periodicaly and it may have new images:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/transformingdublinairport/

Stevek101

Thanks Bramble. I am getting to see it around the 17th of next month. My curiosity has gotten the better of me however!

n.catenthusiast

Stevek101 wrote: »

Thanks Bramble. I am getting to see it around the 17th of next month. My curiosity has gotten the better of me however!

Hi Stevek,

If I'm being nosey please say so, but just curious how you're getting to see it so early?
My understanding was that it wasn't open until May.

It must be being fitted out at this stage so?

Stevek101

It should be open around the 20th as both Hughes and Hughes and the Guinness shop are planning to open then. I am helping with the moving of the Guinness shop

Fratton Fred

where is the extension going to be, is it new gates or just more room for passengers?

Stevek101

Just more space to shop on route to Pier A and D.

Fratton Fred

Oh good, more leprechaun hats and fake ireland jerseys, just what the place needs. Will they be increasing the security area at all, the last few Mondays have been a bloody joke.

vms7ply9t6dw4b

No changes to the passenger screening areas and i wouldnt forsee any for the future wiyh passenger numers falling. There was an extenstion to check in area 13 was supposed to be part of the T1x project but was shelved, they've a lovely big void space now where that was supposed to be!

Food wise there's Burger King, starbucks, caviar bar and a large bar with a smoking
terrace. No more smoking in the toilets after you pass through security :-p
Huge DAA direct retail area and 8 or so retail units, boots, guiness and Hughes and Hughes are moving in at the moment I don't think they have been able to secure tennants for the rest.

It's impressive, very bright open area it looks very upmarket all glass and polished tiles. Plenty of distractions before the trek to pier D anyway! I'll take a few cameraphone snaps on Monday for whoevers interested...

Tenger

Eloise Fierce Graph wrote: »

......... a large bar with a smoking
terrace..........

I'll take a few cameraphone snaps on Monday for whoevers interested...

This smoking terrace interests me. Will it be overlooking the cul-de-sac between Piers A and B? Would be a good spot for taking pics or spotting before your flight if so.

Barname

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FOGOFUNK

Barname wrote: »

yes, your passenger charges have steadily increased to pay the bulging cost of developing real estate that only adds to your walks.

Dublin airport is the greatest sham of a badly ran airport I have ever encountered.

from the long term carpark (DAA beside ALSAA) to the end of pier D is 2 miles!!!

no buses one morning (DAA) walked it.

Can this country do ANYTHING correctly or efficiently.

I reckon that DAA was Berties jobs for the lads over the last 10 years. Could not pump them into AerLingus so they pumped the voters into make up jobs in the DAA

lots of pink shirted folk drinking coffee and yapping around Dublin Airport.

Its all at your expense.......

Your definitley Michael O Leary.

I agree, the DAA is a complete joke,
Overstaffed and overpaid.

vms7ply9t6dw4b

Bramble wrote: »

This smoking terrace interests me. Will it be overlooking the cul-de-sac between Piers A and B? Would be a good spot for taking pics or spotting before your flight if so.

No it's just a wedge shaped open area that's the other side of the glass where mcdonalds is now. Nothing to take pictures of there except high fences!

There is a terrace facing out on the cul de sac as you say but it's use at the moment is still undecided. It's in a staff only area and you won't be able to smoke on it as there will be refueling taking place below.

Edit: there's rumours of them, the people that own the bar, making you buy something before you can use the smoking area. Some sort of token system... Can't see how they'd police something like that though

Tenger

Eloise Fierce Graph wrote: »

There is a terrace facing out on the cul de sac as you say but it's use at the moment is still undecided. It's in a staff only area and you won't be able to smoke on it as there will be refueling taking place below.

Am not a smoker so don't care about that and am airline staff.

Have spent quite a few hours recently looking out from beside the EI GC lounge,a nice terrace over the B gates but unable to get out there.

sdanseo

FOGOFUNK wrote: »

Your definitley Michael O Leary.

I agree, the DAA is a complete joke,
Overstaffed and overpaid.

Not this year - last year they'd hired 30 people in one section of customer service (trolleys) alone. This year none, with the contract lads lucky enough to keep their job over the winter reduced from 5 to 2-3 days per week.

Looking like they won't hire ANY seasonal staff this year whatsoever, just give out overtime as it's cheaper than recruiting.

vms7ply9t6dw4b

Thats the view from the top of the new escilators

Thats the smoking area, Mcdonalds window behind the fence on the right

Just looking down on the main walkway to piers A and D there are retail uints on either side on the ground floor and a bar to the right of the picture on the mezzanine

Starbucks and the caviar bar

Escilators to Mezzanine

Passenger circulation area with retail uints to left and right and DAA retail in the background

VIew from the opposite end of the last picture


"The loop" isnt in yet though, either is the fountian actually... i wont spoil the suprise on those!

Stevek101

Wow thats alot bigger than I thought it was going to be! Cheers for the pictures! I don't know how the shops plan to be open on the 20th April.

Fratton Fred

Will it just be for passengers using piers A and D?

The biggest complaint I have about dublin Airport is the Passenger Screening area is a bottle neck, due in part to the number of people milling around where people are trying to put shoes and belts back on. Hopefully this will take people away from that area and free up a bit of space.

Slice

I think more shops is a good thing at the airport. Nothing worse than hanging around with nothing to do.

Dub in Louth

Hi All,

Did T1X open as scheduled yesterday? Has anyone been to look at it?

Thanks.

digital_d

Dub in Louth wrote: »

Hi All,

Did T1X open as scheduled yesterday? Has anyone been to look at it?

Thanks.

When I was thru this morning it was not open as yet - Shop is stocked and looks ready to go from the secuity area - but looking at it as you get along the current walkway to D&A, there still looks like a bit to do.

D

Stevek101

It is due to open to the public Wednesday. DAA were due to inspect all shops this morning to approve them for opening.

Dub in Louth

Just been up there as it is open to airport staff for today only.

Its lovely and a welcome addition to the airport. Plenty of light and space and looks like there will be plenty of other shops if the DAA can find tenants for them.

munchkin_utd

Eloise Fierce Graph wrote: »

No changes to the passenger screening areas and i wouldnt forsee any for the future wiyh passenger numers falling. There was an extenstion to check in area 13 was supposed to be part of the T1x project but was shelved, they've a lovely big void space now where that was supposed to be!

I am just trying to get a mental picture of this.
Are you saying that once you come through security screening, ALL shops facing security are still there (i.e. champion sports et al) as nothing has changed in that area?
So theres more shops hidden away somewhere off to the side but ZERO extra space where is is chronically needed directly between the security checks and passages to the gates?

Stevek101

It is a whole new section that was built on to the side of T1 on the way to gates A & D which was very much needed. What exactly are you moaning about?

Carawaystick

Do domestic passengers still have to wait to go through immigration?

Tenger

munchkin_utd wrote: »

Are you saying that once you come through security screening, ALL shops facing security are still there (i.e. champion sports et al) as nothing has changed in that area?
So theres more shops hidden away somewhere off to the side but ZERO extra space where is is chronically needed directly between the security checks and passages to the gates?

As you go through security (am thinking of the security near check-in desks 8-13) the same shops are in front of you. If you turn right you see a new area open where the old music shop was. It is a more spacious route to the A and D gates. Better than the prefab tunnel that was there until recently. As you walk along it there is a very open shopping area on your left. There is also an upper level which I believe has Starbucks, Burger King and other eat/drink outlets. The extension has full windows so is nice and bright and provised a more amenable journey to the Skybridge enroute to the far away D gates.

Using the other security point (Beside the EI check-in desks)or going to the B or C gates (still 4 C gates left!) you will see no difference. The only way to increase space immediately after security would be to demolish the shops and make it open plan. This would severly curtail the income of the DAA.

spacetweek

munchkin_utd wrote: »

I am just trying to get a mental picture of this.
Are you saying that once you come through security screening, ALL shops facing security are still there (i.e. champion sports et al) as nothing has changed in that area?
So theres more shops hidden away somewhere off to the side but ZERO extra space where is is chronically needed directly between the security checks and passages to the gates?

Although I agree that removing these shops would be a good idea, T1X was never about improving the space at the security area - it was about adding more shops and restaurants. If they closed loads around there they'd end up with the same amount of shops and they're currently trying to close a budget gap.

Things that need to be fixed in Terminal 1
1. Silly arrangement with the all-day breakfast/Sbarros/McDonalds place - it used to be landside, now it's airside but in a really convoluted way where you come through a hole in the wall to the check-in area (screened off with glass) and up an escalator.
2. Not enough space either to queue for security, nor on the far side when picking up your things.
3. Central corridor with shops connecting all piers is far too narrow and crowded.
4. Prefab for Ryanair at the end of Pier D still not removed.
5. Baggage hall - national disgrace. Complete overhaul needed.
6. Arriving and departing passengers still not fully segregated for some piers, or poorly so.

sdanseo

spacetweek wrote: »

Things that need to be fixed in Terminal 1
1. Silly arrangement with the all-day breakfast/Sbarros/McDonalds place - it used to be landside, now it's airside but in a really convoluted way where you come through a hole in the wall to the check-in area (screened off with glass) and up an escalator.

Nothing wrong with this. There are two restaurants, one airside, one landside. The access to the airside one just happens to adjoin departures so they put in a glass wall for effect.

Everything else in that area is landside.

n.catenthusiast

spacetweek wrote: »

Although I agree that removing these shops would be a good idea, T1X was never about improving the space at the security area - it was about adding more shops and restaurants. If they closed loads around there they'd end up with the same amount of shops and they're currently trying to close a budget gap.

Things that need to be fixed in Terminal 1
1. Silly arrangement with the all-day breakfast/Sbarros/McDonalds place - it used to be landside, now it's airside but in a really convoluted way where you come through a hole in the wall to the check-in area (screened off with glass) and up an escalator.
2. Not enough space either to queue for security, nor on the far side when picking up your things.
3. Central corridor with shops connecting all piers is far too narrow and crowded.
4. Prefab for Ryanair at the end of Pier D still not removed.
5. Baggage hall - national disgrace. Complete overhaul needed.
6. Arriving and departing passengers still not fully segregated for some piers, or poorly so.

Some interesting points there.

Not sure what your issue with the airside restaurant on the Mez is-originally used to be landside as you say, but was changed to airside to adress the lack of food & beverage services there.
Yr right in that access to it is not obvious, but it's hardly 'convoluted'. A short corridor & a set of escalators?


Yup lack of space on both sides of security alright. But the lack of a space issue is terminal-wide. the original T1 was designed to accomodate 5m pax per year as oppose to 23.5m. Hence T2. When 40% of passengers cross over to T2 that space issue is going to be largely resolved.


Ditto the Street airside. Do you suggest expanding the width of the street? Which way? Move the landside & airside divide? Extend the terminal further onto the apron? Both pretty expensive options,especially with a huge amount of excess capacity about to open a few metres up the road....


Ryanair's temparary boarding gate is still there because the airlines wanted it there instead of a longer Pier D. their argument was to leave it there until pier E is finished, thus allowing adequate contact stands without the need for more construction which will quickly become excess capacity once T2 opens. They're right too...

Baggage hall a complete disgrace? how so? Might not be the most beautiful hall in the world but it serves it's purposes, and it is ultimately a functional building.
Could be made into a beautiful work of art I suppose but you and every other passenger passing through Dublin would pay for it via higher airport charges.


Yr right about the segregation issue-will be resolved in D once temporary boarding gate is removed. Slightly trickier for Pier A. Might take a bit longer on that front......



The issues you're talking about can be resolved with substantial capital works, which feed into airport charges in a very real and direct way-the reason that a lot of this work doesn't happen is that the airlines-supposedly representing the wishes of the consumer-veto it as being unneccesary expense. A case in point is the dumping of plans to refurbish T1 once T2 opens. this would addressed most of your concerns ( including a lavish and opulant baggage hall in the neo-classical Baroque style ) but was shelved due to airline opposition.

The lack of these facilites is reflected in the fact that Dublin Airport has one of the lowest airport charges for a capital city airport in Europe-kinda befitting of an airport which is in large part a low cost carrier hub.

Delta Kilo

spacetweek wrote: »

5. Baggage hall - national disgrace. Complete overhaul needed.

Yes, I completely agree wit this and I'm sorry but I don't think that the fact it is functional is good enough. It is a disgrace. There are far too few belts. Last summer there were 3 flights (including mine) on the one belt and it was pandemonium. There was not enough room for all the people and it was quite a dangerous situation with large suitcases being swung around and small kids running around.

This, along with the security area should have been number one on the priority list, not the layout of the shops in Pier D!

Compare it with other airports, the baggage reclaim area in other airports is usually a huge area with ample belts and plenty of room to get yourself and the bags together!

sdanseo

Delta Kilo wrote: »

Yes, I completely agree wit this and I'm sorry but I don't think that the fact it is functional is good enough. It is a disgrace. There are far too few belts. Last summer there were 3 flights (including mine) on the one belt and it was pandemonium. There was not enough room for all the people and it was quite a dangerous situation with large suitcases being swung around and small kids running around.

This, along with the security area should have been number one on the priority list, not the layout of the shops in Pier D!

Compare it with other airports, the baggage reclaim area in other airports is usually a huge area with ample belts and plenty of room to get yourself and the bags together!

Hehe, you should try pushing a line of 100 trolleys through the melee. Scary stuff :P

Tenger

Map of T1x:
http://www.dublinairportauthority.com/images/map_TX1.jpg

Bluetonic

n.catenthusiast wrote: »

Ryanair's temparary boarding gate is still there because the airlines wanted it there instead of a longer Pier D. their argument was to leave it there until pier E is finished, thus allowing adequate contact stands without the need for more construction which will quickly become excess capacity once T2 opens. They're right too...

Indeed it got a further 2 years planning permission back in March for 24 months or until pier E is functional.

Tenger

A couple of pics from inside the T1 extension at DUB. Not too bad for spotting.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tearbringer/3507920581/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tearbringer/3507923819/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tearbringer/3508738698/in/photostream/