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Vuelta a Castilla y Leon

  • 23-03-2009 3:45pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭


    Bunch finish but main news will be that Armstrong crashed.

    Early reports say he has suffered a broken collarbone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,400 ✭✭✭Caroline_ie


    decrrrrrr wrote: »
    Bunch finish but main news will be that Armstrong crashed.

    Early reports say he has suffered a broken collarbone.

    I wonder did contador .... ? No ... Surely not ...
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    Sorry ....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭scottreynolds


    decrrrrrr wrote: »
    Bunch finish but main news will be that Armstrong crashed.

    Early reports say he has suffered a broken collarbone.

    Dorsal 2 Lance Armstrong posible fractura de clavícula a falta de confirmación radiológica.

    Se traslada al Hospital Clínico Universitario de Valladolid.

    Not that I understand it at all but my guess Armstring gone to hospital with a suspected fractured clavicle.

    Contador rides on planning to win TDF, Giro, Veulta in same year. Contador comments on twitter, "Armstrong has much to learn"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    Oh no! An injury to sir lance-a-lot? what next... the poor hero, suffering through cancer, and now a broken collarbone... I bet it's all that Paul Kimmage's fault, it must be..


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Armstrong breaks collarbone at Castilla y Leon


    Monday 23rd March 2009 - By Stephen Farrand
    CW-breaking-news_e_ce49f91e2534477e3f3ea68b81c891ad.jpg
    Lance Armstrong has crashed out of the Castilla y Leon stage race.

    The Texan was involved in a high-speed tumble 20km from the finish and landed heavily in a field. He was taken to hospital by ambulance but did not seem badly hurt. However his right shoulder seemed to cause him some pain.

    Update: According to reports on the Gazzetta dello Sport website, who have a reporter on the race, Armstrong has been diagnosed with a broken right collarbone.

    Armstrong was hoping to test his form in Spain and race alongside Alberto Contador for the first time. He is likely to now return to Texas early. He now has just six weeks to get fit for the Giro d'Italia.

    The opening stage of the race was won by Spain's Joaquin Sobrino from the Burgos Monumental team. He beat David Vitoria (Rock Racing) and JJ Rojas (Caisse d'Epargne) in a bunch sprint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Oh no! An injury to sir lance-a-lot? what next... the poor hero, suffering through cancer, and now a broken collarbone... I bet it's all that Paul Kimmage's fault, it must be..

    Tiny, why do you love broken collarbones so much?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,400 ✭✭✭Caroline_ie


    Is that 8 weeks off or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    Raam wrote: »
    Tiny, why do you love broken collarbones so much?

    I don't, I'm sympatetic to the man! Honest


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭scottreynolds


    Is that 8 weeks off or something?

    With drugs its only 4 weeks off.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Meh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭smithslist


    On Johan Bruyneel twitter page:

    "Crash update on Lance from Castilla y Leon: Clean collarbone fracture without complications. Should be fast recovery. More to come."

    Looks like it will be less than 4 weeks recovery....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Funkyzeit


    Is that 8 weeks off or something?

    I'd hate him to miss Le Tour (wondering if the mankini is refundable...)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Didn't Tyler sHamilton ride the Tour with a broken collar bone?
    I'm sure Lance will be well able to continue his quest to heal the world with or without his collarbone.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Hermy wrote: »
    Didn't Tyler sHamilton ride the Tour with a broken collar bone?

    He rode the Giro with a broken shoulder in 2002. Ground his teeth down to the roots with the pain. Got the teeth rebuilt, then broke his collarbone in the 2003 Tour. Ground the teeth down again. Doping or not, the guy had guts.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    If Tyler can do it then so can Lance.;)

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    el tonto wrote: »
    Doping or not, the guy had guts.

    Didn't have any teeth though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    teehee!


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    tturns128.jpg


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    el tonto wrote: »
    Doping or not, the guy had guts.

    If you believe his disapearing twin excuse he had 2 sets of guts :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Slideshowbob


    There were serious doubts about the severity of Hamilton's ''broken collarbone'' - remember the wincing of Sean Kelly after his break in 87 tour - and Kelly was a tough man

    Here is a video of Lance Arm(now not so)Strong

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzpOWKRhj4M


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    There were serious doubts about the severity of Hamilton's ''broken collarbone''
    +1

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭Gavin


    Blow to the Tour of Ireland if he misses it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭E@gle.


    Gavin wrote: »
    Blow to the Tour of Ireland if he misses it

    Thats a while away yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Running Bing


    Just seen on sky news that he is a doubt for the Tour de France and the Giro.


    Hmmmmmm....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭scottreynolds


    Babybing wrote: »
    Just seen on sky news that he is a doubt for the Tour de France and the Giro.


    Hmmmmmm....

    Its the fitness he needs for the races more than not being mended. I think he'll do what ever he can to do the races.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Time for the worms.....
    Hope he's not just looking to stock up the medicine cabinet and excuses for later in the year. "Ah that's just residual morphine from way back in March" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭decrrrrrr


    Philip Deignan finished in the group yesterday.

    Time trial today - Bertie to repeat his Paris-Nice result?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,400 ✭✭✭Caroline_ie


    I'm alive! Broken clavicle (right). Hurts like hell for now. Surgery in a couple of days.

    I thought it was clean cut break. Do they solder it up or something?

    I really hope he's back for the TdF and TOI ... ( yes I just said that )


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    From cyclingnews.com
    Armstrong back on the bike soon?
    Lance Armstrong could be back on his bike sooner than expected after he broke his collarbone in the Vuelta a Castilla y León yesterday. While the American travelled back to the United States for possible surgery, specialists in Europe have theorised the consequences of such a pause in training and racing.
    Doctor Gérard Nicolet, who has been working for the French cycling federation as well as the Tour de France in the past, gave some answers to L'Equipe on Tuesday, which featured Armstrong's misfortune on its opening page. Nicolet explained the procedures taken in case of a collarbone fracture, and added that Armstrong's loss of training and racing could only involve a few weeks.
    "For a high level athlete, we generally practice an osteosynthesis, which means that we fix the collarbone with some material [metal plates, screws, wires, etc.]. Ten days or two weeks afterwards, he can train on the rollers again," said Nicolet, who believes that Armstrong could be back riding his bike on the road in three weeks.
    While the accident will have a certain effect on the comeback of the seven-time Tour de France winner, the timing of the mishap may not compromise Armstrong's participation in the Giro d'Italia after all.
    "It's still only March, even if the Giro [which starts May 9 - ed.] seems rather close. In my opinion, this will not compromise his comeback, but it will make it more difficult. This being said, some champions have peculiar reactions, doubling their motivation to get over a setback. On that level, there are often surprises."
    Such as the one of Frédéric Guesdon, who at the same age as Armstrong (37) broke his collarbone on February 22 in the Volta ao Algarve in Portugal and came back to racing last Sunday at the GP Cholet in France. The accident cost the Française des Jeux rider only four weeks of his preparation for Paris-Roubaix on April 12.
    "I didn't want to have surgery, as the fracture was clean," Guesdon explained. "Ten days after the accident, I was back on the rollers, and went on the road soon after. Sure, it was hard, as I could never come out of the saddle. But if I hadn't done it this way, the Classics wouldn't have been possible."
    The Frenchman, who won Paris-Roubaix in 1997, will race over cobblestones tomorrow at the Dwars door Vlaanderen. "I've seen riders recover very fast, others suffering a setback. But I think he [Armstrong - ed.] can come back in time."
    However, an osteosynthesis apparently also includes a risk, as explained doctor Christian Dalouède, a contributor to French magazine Sport et Vie. "The danger lies in a second crash on the same collarbone: the plate may twist. You need to change it and the screws are very hard to pull out in that case," Dalouède said.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭lukester


    Anyone know if there is TV coverage for this race? Eurosport don't seem to be on it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    lukester wrote: »
    Anyone know if there is TV coverage for this race? Eurosport don't seem to be on it.

    have a check on www.cyclingfans.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭lukester


    Tweeted TT results
    Castilla y Leon TT 1. Leipheimer 2. Contador @16" 3. Zabriske @22" 4. Clement @49" 5. Menchov @55"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭E@gle.


    not a bad time from Philip Deignan ain 18th place at 1.53 back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭deeno1975


    Wow another Astana 1,2
    Get ready for Le Tour with the Astana team at the front everyday 25 mph controlling everything and not breaking a sweat, "No chain" as I once read... Ah well 2008 Tour was a false dawn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    So he can beat Wiggins on an idea course for him by 7 seconds, yet ends up 16 down on Leipheimer..... maybe someone told him that he was taking the piss at Paris-Nice?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭scottreynolds


    deeno1975 wrote: »
    Wow another Astana 1,2
    Get ready for Le Tour with the Astana team at the front everyday 25 mph controlling everything and not breaking a sweat, "No chain" as I once read... Ah well 2008 Tour was a false dawn.

    I'm sure Astana has this written somewhere. :D

    Grand Tour Finishing Positions
    Giro - Levi, Alberto, Unknown now -- no lance
    Tour - Alberto, Lance, Levi
    Vuelta- Lance, Alberto, Levi


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭biker_joe


    yea the coverage on Eurosport just gets worse each year !!
    I wonder would getting a Dish from Lidel be worth it ... what the racing on one of the French or German TV .....


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    biker_joe wrote: »
    yea the coverage on Eurosport just gets worse each year !!

    In fairness, it's a 2.1 race that's used as a warm-up by most of the big stage race riders. Even in Spain it's only being carried on regional television


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Slideshowbob


    el tonto wrote: »
    In fairness, it's a 2.1 race that's used as a warm-up by most of the big stage riders. Even in Spain it's only being carried on regional television


    ya - i never heard of race until contador started winning it

    dont think it was on Eurosport before

    Thank god 4 Eurosport - we'd all be lost if NTL hadn't brought it back


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Thank god 4 Eurosport - we'd all be lost if NTL hadn't brought it back
    You don't need to rely on NTL for Eurosport. I've been using a dish and receiver I bought in Lidl a number of years ago for €75 and it's great.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭zzzzzzzz


    Hermy wrote: »
    You don't need to rely on NTL for Eurosport. I've been using a dish and receiver I bought in Lidl a number of years ago for €75 and it's great.

    Going a bit off topic, but what stations can you pick up?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭scottreynolds


    Hermy wrote: »
    You don't need to rely on NTL for Eurosport. I've been using a dish and receiver I bought in Lidl a number of years ago for €75 and it's great.

    I pay €4 per month to be able to watch eurosport on my PC via broadband. Works well and doesn't tie up the telly.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Esroh


    P Deignan 5th
    www.en.justin.tv/feria.tv if anyone want to watch 2mro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭decrrrrrr


    Esroh - You might want to edit your post and hide that spoiler... some people watch the race in the evening and don't want to know the result


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Slideshowbob


    decrrrrrr wrote: »
    Esroh - You might want to edit your post and hide that spoiler... some people watch the race in the evening and don't want to know the result

    why hide the spoiler

    Im glad i know and Irish rider has got an excellent result and like to know these things asap

    Its history now and the results wont change

    anyway - i dont think its on TV or anything later

    where would people be watching it later?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    why hide the spoiler

    Im glad i know and Irish rider has got an excellent result and like to know these things asap

    Its history now and the results wont change

    anyway - i dont think its on TV or anything later

    where would people be watching it later?

    Because some people have coverage from websites etc and record the stages to watch later. If you hide it with a spoiler tag, anyone who wants to see it can see it, and those who don't don't have the end spoiled. It may be history, but some people may not know that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Slideshowbob


    Do you know where highlights are on web?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,860 ✭✭✭TinyExplosions


    Do you know where highlights are on web?

    Not off the top of my head, but if it's on justin.tv there is a live feed which could be recorded if someone wanted to go to the trouble, or it could be on cycling.tv

    The point is that it *might* be there, and it's not a huge thing to use the spoiler tag -it's right up in the toolbar and everything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭decrrrrrr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Esroh


    Sorry for being the Spoiler:oI would be one for knowing asap.Have worked out how the spoiler button works now so it wont happen again.:)


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