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Am I the only one who does not like GTA games.

  • 23-03-2009 11:43am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭


    I've played alot and I found them fun for awhile but got bored.I can't see what the fuss is about.So anyone else relate to this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Yup, I played GTA from the original game on PC to GTAIV on the PS3 and can totally relate.

    When the first GTA came out it was hilariously funny, a parody of gangster life, kill frenzies, mowing down Hare Krishna's and general insanity and fun in the storyline.

    In other words, it didn't take itself too seriously.

    These days I find the game is far too serious for my liking, the fun element is gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭quad_red


    Nope. I got sucked into buying the latest one after the media love fest.

    Boring. Sold it on after a few weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭docentore


    you're not the only one.

    have similar feelings as r3nu4l, it was fun looking but it is not anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    r3nu4l wrote: »
    These days I find the game is far too serious for my liking, the fun element is gone.

    While I played and enjoyed all of the games (Except San Andreas and the PSP games, just couldn't warm to them at all) I do agree, it's (for the most part) lost the sense of fun...

    The game I enjoyed the most was Vice City, as it balanced the fun and 'serious business' well, but didn't feel that same sense of fun on the PSP Vice City Stories, as it just felt like the same location with the fun drained out. If for V they can recapture that spirit, then I know I'll certainly be hooked all over again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    yeah its that same basic game, they just sucked all the life and fun little things out of it, and replaced them with rubbish like those needey bastards that phone you all the time for one thing.

    I really hope they listen to the critisism leveled at gta4.

    Also am i the only one who thought the music and radio this time was rubbish?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭muppetkiller


    Yup I'm with you too ...find them so boring and repetitive...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭Y2J_MUFC


    I find Saints Row to be more fun than GTA. Its totally unrealistic (breaking up protests with a chainsaw, etc), but a much better laugh.

    Like the old GTA's used to be.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Yeah the whole sense of fun of GTA was sucked out of it with GTAIV and the writing just wasn't good enough to sustain it. I find I'm enjoying Saints Row 2 a hell of a lot more. It's purile, juvenile, all kinds of -ile but it knows it and plays up to it beautifully. It's funny and ridiculous and loads of fun. Even the side missions are brilliant.

    GTAIV had little to do outside the main story that was fun. The story missions were all the same, drive to location get out, engage in firefight, rinse and repeat. No variety whatsoever like the old games had. One of the best things about the old GTA's was how many game styles it had. The driving engine is great but the combat is still as awful as it ws back when GTA3 came out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Otaku Girl


    OK, I know I'm running the risk of getting flamed here but;does anyone find it a bit offensive?I hate censorship and I'm not saying it should be censored but I don't know...the ability to kill prostitutes and nick their cash sort of pissed me off.Most people who play it are young men and they will do this for a "laugh" in the game.Kinda' takes objectifying women to a new level,no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Didn't rate GTA4 at all, but loved GTASA.

    About killing and robbing hookers..it's only pretend so I don't think it matters that much.
    Is there a differance if you killed and robbed a women on the street(in game) that wasn't a hooker?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    But loads of people hate GTA. The backlash against the hype of the last game started almost as soon as it was out. I'm with the backlash against the backlash myself. The amount of times I read something along the lines of "i've hated all the GTA's and I bought IV and it was returned to the shop in 2 days" What did they expect?

    While I understand why people don't like the GTA's (its not a crime) I don't think anyone in their right mind can claim Rockstar are not well above average game designers. Just look at all the rubbish copy cat games to see how hard it is to make work. And yes Saints Row is for the most part rubbish, the juvenilia in it is, well, cringingly juvenile compared to the knowing GTA juvenilia and the radio stations alone provide great entertainment.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    While I understand why people don't like the GTA's (its not a crime) I don't think anyone in their right mind can claim Rockstar are not well above average game designers.

    I'm not sure about that, I think they might have hit it lucky with GTA3. The rest of their output has been awful (see manhunt, disgraceful game). And before you start naming good rockstar games, the GTA team isn't the same rockstar as the team in Vancouver that made the excellent the warriors and bully or Rockstar leeds that makes all the handheld games.
    And yes Saints Row is for the most part rubbish, the juvenilia in it is, well, cringingly juvenile compared to the knowing GTA juvenilia and the radio stations alone provide great entertainment.

    But it's fun, unlike most of GTAIV. And thats all that matters to me.

    I think a lot of people expected a revolution with GTAIV after all the praise in the press and the reviews practically said this. What they got was a game that while pretty had less content than GTA3.

    Still what little I did play of the lost and the damned i did enjoy. It's a whole lot stupider than GTAIV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Otaku Girl


    Didn't rate GTA4 at all, but loved GTASA.

    About killing and robbing hookers..it's only pretend so I don't think it matters that much.
    Is there a differance if you killed and robbed a women on the street(in game) that wasn't a hooker?

    None at all but hookers are more prone to this sort of violence in real life and the killing hookers and getting you're cash back is one of the thing the game is reknowned for and lets be honest-the developers know this and it's a selling point for them.

    Like I said I'm anti censorship but I still find it distasteful,IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    gta1+2 > * ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 512 ✭✭✭ROC1977


    Otaku Girl wrote: »
    I've played alot and I found them fun for awhile but got bored.I can't see what the fuss is about.So anyone else relate to this?

    +1

    I'm the same fun for a while, I tend to just mess about and not do the missions. I'm still miles from finishing the game. And I have it since it came out. And haven't even turned it on in months.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Actually, arsing about and causing as much mayhem as possible to get a good chase from the police is one of the best things in the games. Pity it just isn't as much fun to do in GTAIV. My first week of GTA3 was arsing about not going near the missions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I'm not sure about that, I think they might have hit it lucky with GTA3. The rest of their output has been awful (see manhunt, disgraceful game). And before you start naming good rockstar games, the GTA team isn't the same rockstar as the team in Vancouver that made the excellent the warriors and bully or Rockstar leeds that makes all the handheld games.

    Agree with almost everything you say here. I was talking generally about Rockstar not its individual studios, that they (for the most part) insure the label means value for money and a certain level of quality. Didn't like Manhunt, Manhunt 2 looked like utter tripe, but I believe (wikipedia)Rockstar North only had a "creative consultant" type role to play in 2 and I think Rockstar London made it. What I would say is GTA4 had an unbelievable amount of hype leading up to its release and for me at least it did an admirable job of living up to it, more then say Halo 3, GOW 2, Killzone 2, Spore, MGS4 and other hyped games. If they didn't change it would get stale and if it changed too much it wouldn't be GTA. So I think they did a good job of not falling on their faces and making Driv3r.


    But it's fun, unlike most of GTAIV. And thats all that matters to me.

    I disagree, I found it inane and shallow. Just like the massacre sections in GTA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Otaku Girl wrote: »
    OK, I know I'm running the risk of getting flamed here but;does anyone find it a bit offensive?I hate censorship and I'm not saying it should be censored but I don't know...the ability to kill prostitutes and nick their cash sort of pissed me off.Most people who play it are young men and they will do this for a "laugh" in the game.Kinda' takes objectifying women to a new level,no?
    Otaku Girl wrote: »
    None at all but hookers are more prone to this sort of violence in real life and the killing hookers and getting you're cash back is one of the thing the game is reknowned for and lets be honest-the developers know this and it's a selling point for them.

    I'd find it more offensive if you were prevented from doing this, as you can kill/rob the police, ambulance drivers, civillians, gangsters, gangs and pretty much everyone else in the game (except the story essential characters).

    Focussing on the ability to kill/rob the hookers in the game is something that is highlighted by the papers, not the developers. The developers merely enable you to do pretty much whatever you like within the construct of the game.

    The choice to do so or not comes down to the individual players and how they choose to play the game. People have the ability to self censor. I personally didn't go near a hooker in the game to kill or solicit one, as that didn't interest me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭bucks73


    I found GTA IV very boring and repetitive. Sold the disc a week after I bought it. Just thought it got so boring having to rob a car, go see someone, do a job, go back to see someone else etc etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Played the first birds eye veiw version was great...
    gta is evolving, Its like the chemical brother's evry one raves about there first 3 albums the last 4 people have hated or disliked because it doent sound the same...

    same way as the games arnt the same any more people like san andres pther people dont i love vice city thaught it was there best game out of them all but hey...

    I love the gta 5 its great, i mean the storys loose the crcitors arnt great some of them and genrally it needs lots of work but I dont even think its the end after that with lost and the damed I think there's other storys t5o come out with gta5

    you cant dissmiss gta5 wimply becuase my good they have sone some serously hard work on that game...

    Also if you work for rockstar yuo tend to live a farly messed up life...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭silvine


    The combat in GTAIV is not great but I really enjoyed some bits e.g. the airport when the sun sets or the mission where you rob the bank. There's also lots of funny moments in it.

    It probably doesn't justify all the hype but it's still worth a play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    nuxxx wrote: »
    gta1+2 > * ;)

    Have to agree here. Preferred the basic sandbox game. Manageable size city, good missions, good driving and combat. Did the basics well and it was fun!

    🤪



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭Jip


    I think I played GTA IV for only about 5 or 6 hours, even at that I was stretching it to give it time to develop but I found it incredibly boring and it's been sitting gathering dust ever since.

    I played the very first GTA game back in my p.c. gamng days and was happy to hear that Chinatown Wars on the DS harks back to the old days when the game was actually fun to play so bought it the other day, haven't had time to play it yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    It just felt too "by the numbers" and not anything really special.

    The phone concept of calling people for help etc was done in Saints Row years ago and it didn't have an annoying twat calling every 5 minutes to go bowling or such.

    The search for rare cars for bringing to the chop-shop was just "Go to computer, drive to location, drive back, repeat" I preferred GTA:SA and the hunt for these cars, chasing them down when ya see one.

    I think the devs focused too much on making a "living city" rather than a fun game. SimCity made "living cities" too and it was still fun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    the problem with the game is that it's so complex, it has to be broken down so much and so all you end up doing is following simple instructions. Get to the car. Steal the car. Drive here. now do this. I just found it really boring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭ironictoaster


    I got the lost and the damned thinking I would play it, haven't touched it. Can't be arsed for GTA anymore..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    I didint find i had the same urge to explore things and delve into every nook and cranny like in previous one's.

    For me it's peak was vice city, ticked all the boxes for me was a step up from 3 and dare i say it the right sized enviornment maybe SA and IV being a little big and sparse maybe? Although SA had far more to do than IV.

    Also on the subject of offensiveness .... why the hell wasnt i warned about the fully nakid guy in lost and the damned :eek: lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭Macker14717


    the story mode is good on all the gta's but the online play is ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,602 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    I thought it was good until I completed the story. Then the lack of extra things to do really became apparent. In SA you had a huge map with Casino's, planes and gang battles and nothing beat flying to some of the classic rock songs. I bought the Lost and the damned and I find that to be quite enjoyable. The ultimate game for me would be SA with the GTA IV engine


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Otaku Girl


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    Nobody is forcing you to play the game, I hate this kinda of attitude that some people have. If its not your cup of tea dont play it and move on. Just because I enjoy running people down and killing hookers doesnt make me an evil person or will make me do it in real life (no matter what jack thompson says). As for objectifying women would you please stop, if the main character was a woman nobody would say anything.

    I never implied I was being forced to watch it,merely offering my two cents. Perhaps they would say less if the main character was female but violence against men by woman is far less so you have to take it all into context.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Otaku Girl wrote: »
    I never implied I was being forced to watch it,merely offering my two cents. Perhaps they would say less if the main character was female but violence against men by woman is far less reported so you have to take it all into context.
    fyp.

    It's a game that's all, It doen't objectify women in fact it's simply good business sense, You pay them, get a health boost then get your money back, Are you telling me that if you bought a house and could get the money back you wouln't? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    Re: the the hookers there is nothing special about been able to beet up them up for your money back, its not a special feature of the game, you can rob anyone. It wouldn't make any sense if after you did the deed they were the only ones you couldn't rob, they just become like any other non-player character after that. Some adolescences noticed it was something you could do and thought it was the best thing ever. It made me smile once. okay 12 times. But then I felt dirty and stopped doing it, is that a sign of a bad game? Same with beating up the ambulance crews...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    I never really got into the whole GTA thing TBH. Its got nothing to do with running people over with cars... just didnt seem to be enough of an attraction. I probably didnt give it enough of a chance either... prefer outright shoot 'em ups anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭Undead


    Otaku Girl wrote: »
    I've played alot and I found them fun for awhile but got bored.I can't see what the fuss is about.So anyone else relate to this?

    Yes.

    Yes, you are the only one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    I though GTA IV was a bit boring compared to say, Vice City (my fave out of the bunch) but still a solid game, full of plenty of funny moments (usually due to the physics!).

    Also, I'm female and not offended. It's not real. It all depends on what YOU do in the game. If your character onscreen beats up a hooker and takes her money it's because that's what YOU made it do. Personal choices.

    I did beat up one hooker, but in my defence, I really needed the money.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,406 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    koneko wrote: »
    I did beat up one hooker, but in my defence, I really needed the money.

    My defence said that wouldn't fly with the jury and to deny all accountability since there was very little evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭unklerosco


    Vice city was my fav.. The levels with the remote controll helicopter n cars where great fun. GTAIV is just the same over n over n over. Gets quite boring... N the soundtrack in vice city was class


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭chrislad


    GTA hasn't been as good since Vice City. I'm in the middle of Saints Row 2, and it has what GTA is missing: Fun, Tongue in Cheek humour. It's great being able to be a cop and chase down criminals. It's better to be a cop and to use an RPG to break up the Battle of the Century (Pirates Vs Ninjas!!!).

    GTAIV and San Andreas were good games, and I played them to death, but I always felt something was lacking since Vice City. Realism is all well and good, but fun needs to be there, and it's not as prevalent in the GTA games after VC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Smegball


    Am I the only one that actually enjoyed GTA4 :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    Smegball wrote: »
    Am I the only one that actually enjoyed GTA4 :pac:

    Wow I thought I was the only one.


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