High quality cable and F-Type Connector

Dirr-Durr

Hi all,
I have got some contact error few weeks ago, so I wanna change everything betwen my satellite dish and receiver.
So, where I can buy high quality cable and F-Type connectors (assembled if possible).
Thanks in advance

Tony

Take a look at the supplier sticky thread

Dirr-Durr

Tony wrote: »

Take a look at the supplier sticky thread

Thanks but there is no high quality connectors. I can find a cheapest connector there but this one, is very poor quality:

I want something like this:

Use this:

Finaly:

Any idea?

Tony

Its not poor quality it works just as well as the connector you mention, only difference is the lower one is a compression connector which although waterproof does require a special tool. You should be more careful with your choice of words.

Dirr-Durr wrote: »

Thanks but there is no high quality connectors. I can find a cheapest connector there but this one, is very poor quality:

I want something like this:

Use this:

Finaly:

Any idea?

fat-tony

Hi,

The "cheaper" connector is what everyone uses - quite successfully:)
Once you ensure you waterproof the connector at the LNB end (with a rubber boot or with self-amalgamating tape) then you should be ok.

Do you have a specific requirement for high-quality (expensive) connectors? If its a very demanding environment, or if you are working at the extremes of cable length, then it might be worthwhile, but if you are just using the set-up to watch digital satellite telly in a domestic environment then go with the standard connectors.;)

Dirr-Durr

Tony wrote: »

Its not poor quality it works just as well as the connector you mention, only difference is the lower one is a compression connector which although waterproof does require a special tool. You should be more careful with your choice of words.

Thats poor quality.
Whats wrong with my words? My english is not fluent but I'm here and I think my words and conclusion are correct.

Tony

Poor quality implies that there is something wrong with the connector so its wrong to say this since it works perfectly well. It will give exactly the same signal level and quality as a compression or a crimp connector.

Dirr-Durr wrote: »

Thats poor quality.
Whats wrong with my words? My english is not fluent but I'm here and I think my words and conclusion are correct.

Dirr-Durr

fat-tony wrote: »

Hi,

The "cheaper" connector is what everyone uses - quite successfully:)
Once you ensure you waterproof the connector at the LNB end (with a rubber boot or with self-amalgamating tape) then you should be ok.

Do you have a specific requirement for high-quality (expensive) connectors? If its a very demanding environment, or if you are working at the extremes of cable length, then it might be worthwhile, but if you are just using the set-up to watch digital satellite telly in a domestic environment then go with the standard connectors.;)

I'm using "cheaper" connector too, but I wanna change my old cable and connectors (with a rubber boot) to best. If anyone know shop or online shop where I can buy simillar (highest quality, waterproof) connector, please let me know.
Sorry about my english if I was wrong again.

Tony

You would also have to buy them compression tool and they are not cheap

Dirr-Durr

Tony wrote: »

Poor quality implies that there is something wrong with the connector so its wrong to say this since it works perfectly well. It will give exactly the same signal level and quality as a compression or a crimp connector.

Ok. I see now. So, I wanna change my cable to premium cable and my older connectors like with in that shop to compression or a crimp connector. If possible I dont want to buy tool for compression so, perfect shop where they can make assembled and sized cut cable for me. Any idea?

stanley1

here you go, a bit overkill i think.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COMPRESSION-COAX-CONNECTOR-CRIMP-TOOL-FOR-RG6+25-F-PPC-_W0QQitemZ250334782616QQcmdZViewItem

Sam Radford

Just a word to the wise: a preassembled 'F' connector needs a 12mm hole through the wall. The standard hole is 10mm. Are you also looking for a high quality pre-drilled brick?

Dirr-Durr

stanley1 wrote: »

here you go, a bit overkill i think.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COMPRESSION-COAX-CONNECTOR-CRIMP-TOOL-FOR-RG6+25-F-PPC-_W0QQitemZ250334782616QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks but I can use Google and ebay too. I found everything in different shops. Cable in irish shop+postage fee, connector in germany shop+postage fee and tool in UK shop+postage fee. I looking for one shop where I can buy everything and I can pay postage fee just once.

Dirr-Durr

Sam Radford wrote: »

Just a word to the wise: a preassembled 'F' connector needs a 12mm hole through the wall. The standard hole is 10mm. Are you also looking for a high quality pre-drilled brick?

Funny guy. Realy. Thanks your notice but I can manage this problem.

fat-tony

Dirr-Durr wrote: »

Thanks but I can use Google and ebay too. I found everything in different shops. Cable in irish shop+postage fee, connector in germany shop+postage fee and tool in UK shop+postage fee. I looking for one shop where I can buy everything and I can pay postage fee just once.

Ah - you're seeking nirvana:D
Seriously though, if you want to go down the specialist route you will have to go to the specialists and pay the price.
What we are all telling you is that the cable and connectors available locally are perfectly adequate for the job.

Dirr-Durr

fat-tony wrote: »

Ah - you're seeking nirvana:D
Seriously though, if you want to go down the specialist route you will have to go to the specialists and pay the price.
What we are all telling you is that the cable and connectors available locally are perfectly adequate for the job.

I can pay that price but I tried to find easier way.
I bought 20 and 2 metres high quality cable preassemled with compression connectors for 76Eur with postage fee from Germany. Thanks to everybody who helped me.

Tony

Wow thats expensive

Dirr-Durr wrote: »

I can pay that price but I tried to find easier way.
I bought 20 and 2 metres high quality cable preassemled with compression connectors for 76Eur with postage fee from Germany. Thanks to everybody who helped me.

fat-tony

Dirr-Durr wrote: »

I can pay that price but I tried to find easier way.
I bought 20 and 2 metres high quality cable preassemled with compression connectors for 76Eur with postage fee from Germany. Thanks to everybody who helped me.

Double-wow:eek:

We didn't help really. You didn't listen to advice, you just went and did what you wanted to do originally.

Dirr-Durr

fat-tony wrote: »

Double-wow:eek:

We didn't help really. You didn't listen to advice, you just went and did what you wanted to do originally.

I have got some good correction here but my friend bring ladder on the next weekend, so I didnt wait and I was exactly sure what I want. I hope dont need to go up 2 months later again.

dingdong1234567

Recently i purchased 100m of cable from a electrical supplier in Navan for €25. Got some Connectors of Flea bay about 2 years ago for a fee bob, these along with masking tape on my quad LNB works a treat. Feeding my Sky+ box and HTPC for FTA and HD broadcasts in the Living room. And spare sky box in the bedroom for FTA satellite.

The connectors are not great quality but never the less they have taken whatever the weather has thrown at it for the past two years when i fist set up my sky+ box. So i'm happy enough with using 'less than good quality' cable and fittings!

Dirr-Durr

dingdong1234567 wrote: »

Recently i purchased 100m of cable from a electrical supplier in Navan for €25.

Thats realy cheap, I bought the cable 1.50 per metres but with minimal attenuation. I will report when I changed my cabels about signal level.

Tony

What is the serial number of the cable you bought?

Dirr-Durr wrote: »

Thats realy cheap, I bought the cable 1.50 per metres but with minimal attenuation. I will report when I changed my cabels about signal level.

Dirr-Durr

Tony wrote: »

What is the serial number of the cable you bought?

Its Belden H1000 cable but this is normal price for premium cables.
I found in ireland too but no compression connectors there:
https://www.eirss.ie/online_shop/accessories/cables_leads/satellite_lnb_cable_premium_tx100_black.html

Tony

Belden H1000 is a patch cable and not particularly suited to satellite. TX100 is excellent and you could always ask the supplier to put the compression connectors on for you, the downside to this is you will need a much bigger hole but would certainly be cheaper than 76 euro you paid.

Dirr-Durr wrote: »

Its Belden H1000 cable but this is normal price for premium cables.
I found in ireland too but no compression connectors there:
https://www.eirss.ie/online_shop/accessories/cables_leads/satellite_lnb_cable_premium_tx100_black.html

fat-tony

Dirr-Durr,

I too can use Google;)
Belden H1000 cable is 50ohm, not 75ohm so it will be an impedance mismatch for the set top box.
Belden H1000 cable has an inner core of about 2.6mm so will not fit in an "F" socket. Will your compression fittings allow for this and reduce the diameter so that it will fit in the LNB and in the set top box?

Knew I had seen this type of cable before! I have one in the house. It is terminated with an "N" connector which is a big beastie for connecting to radio receivers or transmitters. High quality - but completely the wrong type of termination for satellite!

kbell

Had to check this out.

Good luck op, getting that into your lnb!!


H1000

Sam Radford

fat-tony wrote: »

Belden H1000 cable is 50ohm, not 75ohm so it will be an impedance mismatch for the set top box.

Just in case it's not perfectly clear, 50 Ohm cable will not work. At best you will have "some channels missing" because of standing waves. :cool:

Dirr-Durr

Sam Radford wrote: »

Just in case it's not perfectly clear, 50 Ohm cable will not work. At best you will have "some channels missing" because of standing waves. :cool:

Thanks to all. Its realy big mistake. I try to change my order.

Dirr-Durr

Tony wrote: »

TX100 is excellent and you could always ask the supplier to put the compression connectors on for you, the downside to this is you will need a much bigger hole but would certainly be cheaper than 76 euro you paid.

Good idea but too late. Next time tell me before we are talking about the poor quality and signal level.

kbell

Oh now it's our fault, you didn't listen to anyone's advise on here and went ahead and bought rubbish.:D
Our sincerest apologies op, we hang our heads in shame:pac:

watty

It's lovely cable. Not rubbbish. I'd love 100m of it. For my VHF/UHF transmitters/receivers.

It will kind of work if you used N connectors and then N to F patch cables. The 50 Ohm/75 Ohm mismatch is not huge.

I hope you can get the order changed. If not, sell it at the next Amateur radio rally.


You can't properly put 75 Ohm connectors on ANY 50 Ohm cable as the ratio of internal wire and outer screen is what determines the impedance, thus if crimp fits, inner pin won't and vice versa.

F-Connectors are very limited anyway as inner is the bare wire.

Sam Radford

watty wrote: »

It will kind of work if you used N connectors and then N to F patch cables. The 50 Ohm/75 Ohm mismatch is not huge.

C'mon, Watty. You know as well as I do that it's a brick wall at 2 GHz. The reflections will be tremendous at the connector. :rolleyes:

Tony

Guys the guy is trying to cancel his order.

Dirr-Durr

Tony wrote: »

Guys the guy is trying to cancel his order.

Hi all, good news for me . I changed my order, it was not easy but I think I made a good deal now. So, I have paid 15 EUR more and I will get my new cable set: Oehlbach AK 4000 HD
They told me its a one of the best coax cable on the world and I think price was not too high for that. Thanks every help again.

byte

Glad you got it sorted.

That stuff is 75Ohms, so that's right! I've seen that quad-screened stuff before on German websites, but have never seen any in real life. It'll be more than adequate anyway.

http://www.oehlbach.com/CMS/product-detail.php?sprache=en&artikelnummer=1298

Sam Radford

I hope you ordered the matching 'F' plugs?
http://www.satcure.co.uk/accs/page7.htm#fconn

What is the actual specification of the cable. The picture appears to show aluminium foil, which has a higher resistance than copper.

stanley1

why go to all that bother, top rated cable here.

http://www.satellite.ie/acatalog/Digital_coaxial_cable_CT_100_.html

fat-tony

stanley1 - we've been through this loop already