shaggy

shcoff

Anyone know why Shane Horgan was at the Bernard Dunne fight instead of watching Ireland in Cardiff?

Sundy

The only way Horgan would have wanted to be in Cardiff would have been on the pitch.

While im sure the likes of Horgan, Dempsey, Quinnlan and MOK are delighted for ireland the pain they feel at not being on the team must be enormous.

shcoff

very true sundy cant imagine the mixed feelings of both joy and pain at seeing a team that they had been a big part of for so long win yesterday

Serenity Now!

Sundy wrote: »

The only way Horgan would have wanted to be in Cardiff would have been on the pitch.

While im sure the likes of Horgan, Dempsey, Quinnlan and MOK are delighted for ireland the pain they feel at not being on the team must be enormous.

Alan Quinlan was actually there and helping out the backroom staff.

RtD

Apparently Jennings and Earls were there too, assuming to cover injuries pre-match, especially with Leamy being a concern earlier in the week.

Sundy

Yeah the back up players even got medals i think.
Its still never the same though. Wasnt there one of the english players form WC2003 gave his medal to his friend. Cant remember which one now.

phog

Serenity Now! wrote: »

Alan Quinlan was actually there and helping out the backroom staff.

After the teams had left the field from the warm ups, Quinnie cames back out an got some of the balls used during the warm ups and passed them into the crowd, must have made a nice little present for a few supporters. Nive touch.

anonymous_joe

shcoff wrote: »

Anyone know why Shane Horgan was at the Bernard Dunne fight instead of watching Ireland in Cardiff?

Would you have gone?

It'd be like going to an ex's wedding.

He's a quality player, off form a little, and if I was him I'd be gutted.

shcoff

anonymous_joe wrote: »

Would you have gone?

It'd be like going to an ex's wedding.

He's a quality player, off form a little, and if I was him I'd be gutted.

i dont agree with the comparison to the ex's wedding is suitable, rugby is a team sport where the greater good of the team is the most important thing, players know and understand this. very few players would be bitter about the success of a former team and if they did i would seriously question their character. I would not question Shane Horgans.

In his position think i would have gone to support friends and team mates that id played with for many years in what probably will be their finest hour and while there would be mixed emotions but he has contributed hugely to this team and should take pride in their achievement (not suggesting he doesn't but personally I would have went)

at the end of the day its his personal choice and I'm not judging him, I was just wondering did he not go for any particular reason such as a falling out.

in any case Id say he is cursing his luck getting tickets on that side of the ring!

Jello

Saw Shaggy just off Grafton Street about an hour before the match kicked off yesterday actually, he didn't look too happy at all.

anonymous_joe

shcoff wrote: »

i dont agree with the comparison to the ex's wedding is suitable, rugby is a team sport where the greater good of the team is the most important thing, players know and understand this. very few players would be bitter about the success of a former team and if they did i would seriously question their character. I would not question Shane Horgans.

In his position think i would have gone to support friends and team mates that id played with for many years in what probably will be their finest hour and while there would be mixed emotions but he has contributed hugely to this team and should take pride in their achievement (not suggesting he doesn't but personally I would have went)

at the end of the day its his personal choice and I'm not judging him, I was just wondering did he not go for any particular reason such as a falling out.

in any case Id say he is cursing his luck getting tickets on that side of the ring!

Ah come on, let's cut the sporting clichés out of this. Fúck team spirit, it's about being part of the team. He's one of the most successful players we've ever had, he was an absolutely crucial part of the team, and they've just achieved their greatest moment of success without him. Horgan;s only 31 I think, he's nowhere near finished his career, there's nothing wrong with him being gutted.

delta_bravo

Was MOK not listed amongst the subs for one of the 6N games this year? If so, would he be entitled to a medal?

Diamondmaker

I met Darcy at a party during the 2003 RWC, he was juts back from a Leinster game in Scotland. We got talking, as you do I guess, about the RWC.

he frankly stated he had not been watching it as he was just to gutted about not getting selected. He was just focussing on his own game and getting back into the squad..

Was it 2004 he was player of the 6N touranment ?

Anyway to me its a pretty clear insite as to what Shaggy was going through.

anonymous_joe

delta_bravo wrote: »

Was MOK not listed amongst the subs for one of the 6N games this year? If so, would he be entitled to a medal?

He got kicked out of the squad for being late for something apparently, so hard to say.

thebaz

it' a strange one, but you could go further and question the subs attitude, say Peter Stringer , on the outside hes screaming for Ireland, but on the inside ? ... I remember the fealing of being dropped to the subs bench, didn't like it ... and that was just amateur club stuff

barnesd

What a nonsense topic. Should every Irish rugby player have been there?

old boy

every one has being dropped, when you are gone you are gone, no point in fighting with the obeious

[Jackass]

Aw Shaggy was there through it all, scored some vital tries down the years for Ireland, won us games, played on Lions...his career has hit a lull and in his first season out of the Irish squad they go and win the grand slam...his jersey 14 getting a try...he must be absolutely gutted and it's cruel in a way...but that's sport!!

delta_bravo

anonymous_joe wrote: »

He got kicked out of the squad for being late for something apparently, so hard to say.

Wow didnt know that.

anonymous_joe

delta_bravo wrote: »

Wow didnt know that.

It was mentioned in passing in an article I read yesterday. Cos I didn't know that at the time.

ozt9vdujny3srf

He'll have a Heineken Cup medal soon to make up for it.

Honey-ec

Charlee Massive Waiter the Uncivil wrote: »

He'll have a Heineken Cup medal soon to make up for it.

Exactly - bring on the Quins!

Be nice for Dr. Phil to finish his career with Leinster with the HC too.

CJhaughey

anonymous_joe wrote: »

He got kicked out of the squad for being late for something apparently, so hard to say.

He was in the stadium yesterday with the squad, there was a shot of him on TV.

dan719

Honey-ec wrote: »

Exactly - bring on the Quins!

Be nice for Dr. Phil to finish his career with Leinster with the HC too.

Didn't know they gave out medals for losing in the semi-final?:p

madds

Axel was there too. He stopped to have a few words with me and my mate an hour before kickoff (well we stopped him )

anonymous_joe

CJhaughey wrote: »

He was in the stadium yesterday with the squad, there was a shot of him on TV.

Ah cool. Did he get a medal?

donnchadhc

I thought I saw Hickey at the fight as well (well, on the TV). Anybody else see him?

Sundy

donnchadhc wrote: »

I thought I saw Hickey at the fight as well (well, on the TV). Anybody else see him?

He was interview on RTE before the fight

zAbbo

Sundy wrote: »

He was interview on RTE before the fight

He was sitting beside Shane.