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Caprica When?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Jesus. That looks awful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    just be glad spielberg doesn't get near it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,761 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    i thought band of brothers was pretty good, spielberg isnt all bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    id advise not watching/dling the pilot.The unrated/uncut version is worth getting its on DVD in april but no sign of it on eu sites just US sites so the region 2 release could be alittle whiles away


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    don't be silly ill watch it on tv.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    i thought band of brothers was pretty good, spielberg isnt all bad.

    i was referring to AI which this is very similar too


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    From wiki:

    Home Media Magazine's John Latchem states that Caprica has "all the same dark overtones and richness of character that fans have come to expect from Galactica." He notes that Caprica "[evokes] a feeling similar to Gattaca in its depiction of a potential near-future, while infusing elements of the Matrix and Terminator movies to set up a bridge to the events viewers know will unfold."[25] The Futon Critic's Brian Ford Sullivan finds the first 15 minutes "a weird mix of teen angst, hedonism and virtual reality", however, "once established, the world of Caprica has the potential to be just as compelling, interesting and multi-faceted as its "sequel" - minus of course the cool **** blowing up in space. In just 92 minutes, Caprica manages to dish out a surprisingly dense, but not too overwhelming, array of plot threads".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    I hate lazy journalists relying on comparisons to ubiquitous films or shows to get their points across. All it does is senslessly devalue the thing they're attempting to talk about.

    These days ''like Terminator, like The Matrix'' means as a age rating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,005 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Why? The most overriding aspect/message of BSG is the same as that of Terminator to be brutally honest.

    Caprica where?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    noodler wrote: »
    Why? The most overriding aspect/message of BSG is the same as that of Terminator to be brutally honest.

    Caprica where?

    Firstly - I was talking about Caprica, not Battlestar.

    Secondly - no, the 'message' is not essentially the same in Battlestar as Terminator. Terminator equates to ''damn, don't let robots become sentient! They'll just kill us all!''. At the beginning of the series, that too was true of Battlestar, but that'd be akin to watching the first five minutes of a film and trying to extrapolate a complete message from it. Both share asthetic plot points, but not a whole lot else.

    In Battlestar, the 'robots' are a fully fledged society that doubts its actions, turns on itself and even ends up alling with the 'enemy'. The main message of Battlstar has aways been to learn from the past, the unbiquitous 'cycle' line being the most obvious example.

    The very end of Battlestar says more about being careful of what we do, not ''never made sentient robots - they'll kill us!''. The Battlestar 'message' (urgh) is a more universal one than simple species warfare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,005 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I would have agreed but the last episode asbsolutely rammed the AI role down our throats with that stupid montage.

    BSG has many themes but the writers clearly felt the need to leave us with that moral message as their final words.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,761 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    i was referring to AI which this is very similar too

    wasnt most of that film done by Stanley Kubrick before he died, then spielberg took over to finish it?

    i admit i didnt like the end of AI, but it was a pretty good film aside from that. On the whole i think spielberg is a preachy git, but he has some great movies under his belt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    noodler wrote: »
    I would have agreed but the last episode asbsolutely rammed the AI role down our throats with that stupid montage.

    BSG has many themes but the writers clearly felt the need to leave us with that moral message as their final words.

    Not really. From listening to Moore's Daybreak podcast it's clear that he intended it as a way of tying the cycle (of mutual destruction, not simply one side attacking another) together, not saying 'look dem robots gonna kill you!'., but that the cycle can repeat itself again.

    You may think that's cheesy - but the point was never for it to be some sort of Terminator-style message.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,146 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Just watched both trailers now and as Goodshape said above, it looks awful with no resemblence whatsoever (that I can see) to BSG - save for a futuristic setting, a few cylon centurians (I think I saw a new-style one in the 2nd trailer so not even a "generation 1" model?), and a few surnames we'll recognize.

    Looks to me like some exec just attached "generic drama #5541" to a successful series that was just about to end and so reel in an instant audience, although they haven't attached the BSG name I see.. hmmmm... wait a minute - Caprica.... BSG's "Enterprise"?? I'm gonna say yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,005 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Syferus wrote: »
    Not really. From listening to Moore's Daybreak podcast it's clear that he intended it as a way of tying the cycle (of mutual destruction, not simply one side attacking another) together, not saying 'look dem robots gonna kill you!'., but that the cycle can repeat itself again.

    You may think that's cheesy - but the point was never for it to be some sort of Terminator-style message.


    Not to create these things do do your dirty work? Its all over the show, een with regards the skinjobs enslaving the Centurions.

    People need to stop looking for BSG in this. I am sure it will just be a really, round about way of showing the circumstances that brought about such artificial intelligence. The decadence of society etc

    Very Rome like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    noodler wrote: »
    Not to create these things do do your dirty work? Its all over the show, een with regards the skinjobs enslaving the Centurions.

    People need to stop looking for BSG in this. I am sure it will just be a really, round about way of showing the circumstances that brought about such artificial intelligence. The decadence of society etc

    Very Rome like.

    As I said, of course there is asthetic plot similaraties, but thematically Battlestar is saying very different things.

    And this is completely off-topic for this topic.. !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Eastenders....with robots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CguEY9e2SqQ

    early eiditon of caprica music


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    So is Caprica going to air on TV on tuesday (In the US) or is it just the DVD being released?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Leprachaun


    Eastenders....with robots.

    Guess you were wrong. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    I liked Caprica - I think its not going to be as good as BSG but it's a good sideline. I like the way they have done the
    Cylon Eve


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