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I don't really want to get Sky Multiroom. Happy with 3 signals but aerial won't work

  • 20-03-2009 3:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,178 ✭✭✭✭


    Folks,

    Sorry about the long title above but heres the problem. I have a sky box for the living room and I have no phone land line. I recently got a flat screen tv for the bedroom and I was hoping to be able to get RTE1, RTE 2 and TV 3 on this with my one for all TV tuner however the picture quality is a joke-very distorted and if I manage by messing around with the aerial to get an ok picture on one channel, one of the other channels is too fuzzy to watch. I don't want to get multiroom with sky due to having to have a land line and the monthly extra cost. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to get a good picture on all 3 channels i.e would anyone suggest a good aerial or tv booster to get.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    If the Sky box is not in use elsewhere when needed in the bedroom then a small transmitter and an extra remote controller would do the trick.
    You then get all the sky channels on the second TV.
    I have been using such a setup for a number of years.

    I am getting to the stage where I am considering another option ....... putting a Dual LNB on the Sky dish and feeding a second (used) Sky receiver from the second one and connecting that to the transmitter. Without a second Sky card I will be able to get the 'free' channels, while leaving the other Sky receiver for the main TV.
    It could of course be wired directly to a particular room ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,178 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Thanks John but I am clueless when it comes to these sort of jobs. I suppose I would have to get an electrciain to do this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭kbell


    Or an independent satellite installer....

    I know who i'd rather use.

    Check your local paper small ad's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    billyhead wrote: »
    Thanks John but I am clueless when it comes to these sort of jobs. I suppose I would have to get an electrciain to do this

    If you are referring to the first option then no.
    It involves plugging in the device/s and using the supplied cables to connect to the Sky box & TV.

    To fit a Dual LNB and run a cable then I guess a local satellite installer would be best, as mentioned by kbell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    http://www.oneforall-int.com/?pag=39&prodsubgroepnr=62

    This should give you an idea of the type of product I mean.
    There are many manufacturers of such products.

    The main thing I would mention is that it should have the facility for transmitting the remote control signal back to the source, so that you can change the channels.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,178 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Sorry Johnny for hassling you again but how much would this job roughly cost and I presume it would involve a lot of drilling work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    billyhead wrote: »
    Sorry Johnny for hassling you again but how much would this job roughly cost and I presume it would involve a lot of drilling work

    Not sure what you mean. The device/s I linked to are set-top boxes, one of which plugs into the output on the back of the satellite receiver and the other into the TV. They come as a matched pair. There is no wiring other than the connections mentioned and power for both.
    There are several makes that do the same thing, at I suppose different prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭artvandulet


    http://www.oneforall-int.com/?pag=39&prodsubgroepnr=62

    This should give you an idea of the type of product I mean.
    There are many manufacturers of such products.

    The main thing I would mention is that it should have the facility for transmitting the remote control signal back to the source, so that you can change the channels.


    FYI, i bought one of these a couple of weeks ago and had to return it. Then i bought another brand and returned that too. The reason? Whe it was switched on and the cordless phone and wireless router were on in the house, none of the three worked! I have a wirless keyboard which wouldnt work either.
    As soon as the AV sender was off everything worked again.
    They us the same frequency area (2.4GHz) as WIFI boxes, cordless phones, baby monitors, wireless keyboards... so there's a very good chance you'll have problems.
    Both Maplins and Argos stock a 5.8GHz AV sender which should work ok as it won't interfere. Its an extra €30 odd quid but worth it if you have any of the other devices in you house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    so these wireless video recievers, how do they work again??

    if i have sky in one room downstairs.......and just a tv upstairs(sony bravia HD)with no channels, then i can receive the channels through these????

    is that right? what wire/cable need to be plugged in for these if any?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Sam Radford


    am getting to the stage where I am considering another option ....... putting a Dual LNB on the Sky dish

    That won't work. You need a twin-output LNB:
    http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/lnb.htm#twin


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Sam Radford


    so these wireless video recievers, how do they work again??

    A videosender kit comprises a transmitter and one or more receivers. The TX plugs into the Digibox Scart socket. The RX plugs into the TV Scart socket. The carry stereo sound plus video and the better ones carry your remote control signal, too!

    However, they are limited to just a few milliWatts transmission power, which struggles to get through stone walls and won't go through metal* at all. So it won't necessarily work well in a particular house.

    *E.g. plasterboard backed with aluminium foil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Regarding interference with other equipment ..... there should be a channel changer button on the unit so that you can choose an unused channel in your location. In that way it will not interfere with other equipment. The unit I am presently using has four channels available to it.

    Like all wireless signals they are susceptible to interference from other equipment if not set up properly and also will have difficulty transmitting their signal in certain physical conditions.

    Essentially if other 2.4Ghz equipment works then this device should also work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,178 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Johnboy,

    I presume I would not have to have the sky box turened on downstairs in order to watch tv upstairs in the room with one of these wireless signal devices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    billyhead wrote: »
    Johnboy,

    I presume I would not have to have the sky box turened on downstairs in order to watch tv upstairs in the room with one of these wireless signal devices.

    Yes you would ...... the wireless device is just that .... a device that replaces the wires that would normally be needed if you wished to watch the output of the existing Sky box. It replaces the aerial cable that would normally be run between the Sky box and the TV upstairs. Most of the better one's will also carry the remote controller signal, allowing you to change channels on the Sky box from upstairs.
    Everyone watches the same channel on the Sky box. That is its main limitation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,178 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Thanks John. I presume you mean by yes you would that the Sky Box and tov can be plugged out downstairs.I liv on my own so I would not have to worry about the same channel being on each tv etc. Can you buy these wireless boxes anywhere in Dublin or would it be cheaper to bu from the internet. Also I do not have to worry about interfernce with a wireless phone or internet conneciton as I do not have these at home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    billyhead wrote: »
    Thanks John. I presume you mean by yes you would that the Sky Box and tov can be plugged out downstairs.I liv on my own so I would not have to worry about the same channel being on each tv etc. Can you buy these wireless boxes anywhere in Dublin or would it be cheaper to bu from the internet. Also I do not have to worry about interfernce with a wireless phone or internet conneciton as I do not have these at home

    By yes I mean that the Sky box must be plugged in and switched on.
    Just as you cannot view any Sky channels on the TV downstairs unless the Sky box is ON, so the same applies to any TV you want to view Sky channels on ....... you cannot see the channels unless the Sky box is ON.

    You could try some local retailers of electric/electronic equipment for such devices. For instance I notice Peats have one but it is very dear IMO .... about 80 euros.
    I would expect to pay maybe half that ..... but I may be out of date as it is quite some time since I bought mine.

    I suggest you ask around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,178 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Thanks John. I will give the wireless option a miss so because I don't want to have to trek downstairs to turn off the the skybox after I finish watching the tv in the room at night. (It would just be a nuisance hving to do this).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    billyhead wrote: »
    Thanks John. I will give the wireless option a miss so because I don't want to have to trek downstairs to turn off the the skybox after I finish watching the tv in the room at night. (It would just be a nuisance hving to do this).

    I use the Off button on the remote .... but of course the wireless device would still be on ......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭artvandulet


    The 2 different models I had - a One4All and an Argos x branded one both had 4 channels. All 4 channels were the same. The picture had horizontal lines running through it and clicks in the audio. As soon as I unplugged my cordless phone base station and my wifi router picture was perfect.
    2.4GHz is just too congested now. I highly advise you to get a 5.8GHz instead if you have any of the devices i mentioned.

    Regarding interference with other equipment ..... there should be a channel changer button on the unit so that you can choose an unused channel in your location. In that way it will not interfere with other equipment. The unit I am presently using has four channels available to it.

    Like all wireless signals they are susceptible to interference from other equipment if not set up properly and also will have difficulty transmitting their signal in certain physical conditions.

    Essentially if other 2.4Ghz equipment works then this device should also work.


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