US prices, wow!

Stevie Dakota

Just have a look at this, check out the engine size, transmission, equipment, year and....price.....

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peasant

yepp, incredibly cheap

but it also works the other way round.

check this out for an inflated price:

http://www.gowesty.com/vehicle_details.php?id=1099

Sold For $105,493.

tc20

Wow - it has 5 seats and 8, count 'em, 8 cup/bottle holders!! :rolleyes:

seriously though, thats some deal - the Taurus is what, Mondeo-ish in size, a little bigger perhaps?
Probably set you back about €40k + landed here

Cuddlesworth

The mondeo is better.

Stevie Dakota

€18K, for a 3.5 litre V6 auto...NEW!!!

Hmm, or you could get a Ford Fusion 1.4 16V STEEL here for the same money instead...

L-M

Ugly car IMO, seems value for money over here. Can't imagine any reason behind having it over here, even if it was €24k euro.

unkel

$100k for the campervan is ridiculous, surely that can't be right?

Not even a mint 23 window would go for that kinda money

Highsider

Cheap as chips that

buynow

Another thing is the trade in value you get for a car in the US is really crap.

The Kelley blue book is the bible for these prices, so here is what you get for a 2008 taurus, ie when trade it in a year later-

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/PricingReport.aspx?YearId=2008&Mileage=20000&VehicleClass=UsedCar&ManufacturerId=15&ModelId=94&PriceType=Trade-In&VehicleId=197138&SelectionHistory=197138|30228|20001|0|0|&Condition=Excellent&QuizConditions=

ArthurGuinness

Was in Florida recently and some of the deals on cars is crazy, like saw an add for buy a 2008 Kia Sorento and get a Kia sportage for FREE and the same deal with a Santa Fe and a Tuscon. You would be lucky to geta set of mats for free here. You can also buy a brand new mustang for around the $20,000 - $25,000

Owen

Interestingly, in the UK, Kia were doing a buy one get one free offer on the Kia Magentis.

ArthurGuinness

I also saw Mazda had a similar offer in the UK. Buy a CX7 for 24500gbp and get a Mazda 2 free. I wonder if we will ever see such an offer here. Most garages here now dont even want to take trade in's and if they do they offer you nothing for them

anthony4335

You have to remember who takes the bigest piece of the pie when it comes to car sales, you take that 25k ,add Vat 30.3K then Vrt that is 39K +. However when you take into account the exchange rate things look poor again. However all companies seem to do dollar to euro direct convertion, ie $1=1€. However look at the MPG, take note that the US gallon is smaller than the Euro gallon so 21MPG in the states is equal to 28MPG here

Tropheus

If you've ever driven one of these cars, you'll understand why they're so cheap. They are terrible to drive and the build quality is even worse. Many of the lesser known Far Eastern manufactuers would be streets ahead of them in terms of build and refinement.

There is a reason why the US car manufactuers are on their knees.

mike65

Tis a hard to make a case for crap cars no matter how cheap, loosing more than 50% of the price tag in a year doesn't help

yikes

L-M

mike65 wrote: »

Tis a hard to make a case for crap cars no matter how cheap, loosing more than 50% of the price tag in a year doesn't help

yikes

2006 with a moonroof and leather for a healthy sum of $9,000. It seems to be to the old model. So that's $14k in 3 years. -2k for the old model and that's leaves you with $4k a year depriciation. Not overly bad.

cancan

You can get new corvettes for under $40k (30K euro)

Or brand new Evo X's for <$30k which is 21k euro!

And as long as you don't buy junk, depreciation is very low there...

An evo will only loose 33% over 5 years.....

With road tax being 0, it helps too!

peasant

unkel wrote: »

$100k for the campervan is ridiculous, surely that can't be right?

Not even a mint 23 window would go for that kinda money

Nope, it is that ridiculous ...see for yourself
http://www.gowesty.com/vehicles_for_sale.php

buynow

ksimpson wrote: »

If you've ever driven one of these cars, you'll understand why they're so cheap. They are terrible to drive and the build quality is even worse. Many of the lesser known Far Eastern manufactuers would be streets ahead of them in terms of build and refinement.

There is a reason why the US car manufactuers are on their knees.

It is not just american cars though ksimpson.

How much for a bmw 550 in Ireland? around $61k as in the US or more like > €100K? http://www.kbb.com/KBB/NewCars/PricingReport/2009_BMW_550_248291.aspx

http://www.bmw.ie/ie/en/newvehicles/5series/sedan/2007/allfacts/prices_service/prices.html

Furp

If I lived in the USA, I know what I'd be buying, a 2010 Ford Mustang Premium Coupe V8 4.6L

Notice that the invoice price is what the dealer pays for the car! is that really what the deal pays, I like how the pricing is very clear especially on the sticker price. Compare that to here.



http://www.kbb.com/KBB/NewCars/PricingReport/2010_Ford_Mustang_Coupe_248409.aspx

ArthurGuinness

how does a 08 X5 at $45,000 grab ya http://www.fieldsbmwsouthorlando.com/usedcar-inventory.aspx?InventoryId=26847711

Or a 2009 Toyota Corolla for $13,000
http://home.toyotaoforlando.com/corolla.aspx

L-M

HAH!

http://cars.gov-auctions.org/

Rovi

unkel wrote: »

$100k for the campervan is ridiculous, surely that can't be right?

Not even a mint 23 window would go for that kinda money

I'd guess it's something to do with a very limited supply of the particular vehicle, and demand that exceeds that supply.

Land-Rover, for instance, exported 500 NAS (North American Specification) Defender 110s to the USA in 1993, and approximately 6400 NAS Defender 90s during the years 1994, '95, and '97.
They were all heavily modified to comply with U.S. vehicle regulations, but the introduction of mandatory airbags in 1998 was a step too far and they withdrew the Defender model from the market.

So, that's it; approximately 7000 Defenders of all models were sold into the US over ten years ago, and barring a very few 'imported' since (in various shades of legal 'grey'), that number can't increase.
The total dwindles a bit with every passing year, so the odd one that changes hands every now and then makes bonkers money by our standards.

Zube

The amazing thing about US cars is not that they're cheaper, whack all the tax off Irish prices and cars would be cheaper here too, it's that they are cheap rubbish. How did the whole US industry get sucked into building cheap crap and monster trucks?

cancan

Zube wrote: »

The amazing thing about US cars is not that they're cheaper, whack all the tax off Irish prices and cars would be cheaper here too, it's that they are cheap rubbish. How did the whole US industry get sucked into building cheap crap and monster trucks?

If taxes were not so punitive in ireland, half the country would be driving big v8 pickups..
The suv crazy was not confined to the us....

x in the city

building cheap crap and monster trucks?

well the cars are cheap crap but Im not sure what you mean by monster trucks.

Mack's,Freight liners and the rest of the 18 wheeler brigade are anything but cheap crap.

Speaking of cars, what about the build quality of say a Mitsubishi eslipse or a acura nsx? would it be on par with the Japanese or what ?

UhOh

aren't M3's like $60000 in the US?? Thats more then 1/2 the price of what they are here

....just checked, a shade over $57000 base price :eek:

Guy:Incognito

cancan wrote: »

If taxes were not so punitive in ireland, half the country would be driving big v8 pickups..

Why isnt half of Europe drivign V8 pickups so?

Zube

Stekelly wrote: »

Why isnt half of Europe drivign V8 pickups so?

Y'all are not complete gob****es.

Y'all.

cancan

Stekelly wrote: »

Why isnt half of Europe drivign V8 pickups so?

Cos they have been taxed into noxious diesels.

Like who in their right mind would buy a diesel by choice?

And I know diesel owners will all be - My 530D has the torque of a train - but it's still a diesel and the main reason you bought it is because you couldn't afford to run the petrol one......:D

How many diesel owners grew up dreaming one day of owning a diesel - posters on the wall of a jetta diesel with a tow bar as a young lad?

I'll take a wheelbarrow with a V8 sucking petrol over any noxious diesel belching machine anyday, as any petrol head would. Diesel head just does not have the same ring.

mike65

Did you just wander over from Octane.ie to tell us that?

thethedev

cancan wrote: »

Cos they have been taxed into noxious diesels.

Like who in their right mind would buy a diesel by choice?

And I know diesel owners will all be - My 530D has the torque of a train - but it's still a diesel and the main reason you bought it is because you couldn't afford to run the petrol one......:D

How many diesel owners grew up dreaming one day of owning a diesel - posters on the wall of a jetta diesel with a tow bar as a young lad?

I'll take a wheelbarrow with a V8 sucking petrol over any noxious diesel belching machine anyday, as any petrol head would. Diesel head just does not have the same ring.

I had a poster of a Mercedes Unimog on my bedroom wall, a Landrover Defender 110, a Massey Ferguson and a MACK.
All deisels.
Deisels are nicer to drive than petrol IMO lower revs and a much much better sound.
Deisel is for men petrol is for little boys.
Who are you Jeremy Clarkson???

Guy:Incognito

cancan wrote: »

Cos they have been taxed into noxious diesels.

.

You gave out about Ireland, not all of Europe. Plenty of places in Europe with much lower taxes.

Selling petrol for half nothing and encourageing people to drive huge engined cars with appalling MPG isnt exactly a good idea. There just isnt a need for every car to weigh 4 tons, have 14 foot bonnets , 6 litre engines, sub 25 mpg while beign slower than a micra.

Zube

cancan wrote: »

I'll take a wheelbarrow with a V8 sucking petrol over any noxious diesel belching machine anyday.

So you drive a V8? Tell us more!