Budweiser Aluminium Bottle

tippguy

Anyone else tried bud from the new bottle? limited edition so they say! €2.89 for a 472ml Aluminium bottle. The sign in the off licence said it had to be chilled at -5 degrees to keep it cool. had its own special fridge and everything. quiet impressive really. i bought em at 5 o'clock and when i went to drink them at 10 they were still really cold!

Wolfsberg

tippguy wrote: »

Anyone else tried bud from the new bottle? limited edition so they say! €2.89 for a 472ml Aluminium bottle. The sign in the off licence said it had to be chilled at -5 degrees to keep it cool. had its own special fridge and everything. quiet impressive really. i bought em at 5 o'clock and when i went to drink them at 10 they were still really cold!

I don't really like Bud but I'll give it a try if I see it around. Had they actually been out of the fridge from 5 til 10?

the beer revolu

tippguy wrote: »

Anyone else tried bud from the new bottle? limited edition so they say! €2.89 for a 472ml Aluminium bottle. The sign in the off licence said it had to be chilled at -5 degrees to keep it cool. had its own special fridge and everything. quiet impressive really. i bought em at 5 o'clock and when i went to drink them at 10 they were still really cold!

I'd imagine that was <5 degrees.
-5 would probably freeze the beer solid.
It's in it's own fridge purely for marketing purposes, at a guess.
If it's the same beer in it, it should be served at the same temp irrespective of what the container is made of.

tippguy

no no chilled to minus five degrees. its in a unique bottle to prevent it from freezing appapently. the sign was sayin tis served extra cold. could be something like the guinness extra cold maybe?

oh and ya it was out of a fridge from 5 until 10 and was still colder than your usual six pack that has come from a fridge.

It's just a marketing gimmick to get more space for bud/diageo in the shop . Bulmers have the exact same thing.

tippguy

really? never heard of bulmers in a aluminum bottle. i'd imagine this kind of product would appeal to nigh clubs who dont have fridges. pop it into the freezer for an evenin and take it ou before you open and hey presto

tippguy

tippguy wrote: »

really? never heard of bulmers in a aluminum bottle. i'd imagine this kind of product would appeal to nigh clubs who dont have fridges. pop it into the freezer for an evenin and take it ou before you open and hey presto

Not sure about the alminum bottles but they are definately trying to get those sub zero fridges into off licences. The extra cold just means you can't taste how crap bud really is!

Thomas_S_Hunterson

Deleted User wrote: »

Not sure about the alminum bottles but they are definately trying to get those sub zero fridges into off licences. The extra cold just means you can't taste how crap bud really is!

And also that you can't hold the bottles long enough to buy them:pac:

Lufty

Can anyone direct me to a spot in Dublin that sells them? Have tried a couple of off licences and also 2 supermarkets, but no luck.

BeerNut

You could always go for the 500ml tube-shaped aluminium bottle with the ringpull.

marceldesailly

BeerNut wrote: »

You could always go for the 500ml tube-shaped aluminium bottle with the ringpull.

don't be ridiculous it's a completely different thing.its bottle shaped can for a start and its got its own fridge and everything. surely not a just marketing ploy?:D Think i will stick to loops de loops from the freezer

yoyo

Would putting a can in the freezer for a while then drink it not offer simular effect?

Nick

Thomas_S_Hunterson

yoyo wrote: »

Would putting a can in the freezer for a while then drink it not offer simular effect?

Nick

Of course not.

Using the latest nanometer technology, the Budweiser freezers cryogenically treat a hybrid mixture of pure nitrogen and oxygen on a molecular level and use an advanced convection based heat transduction system to leave the product chilled to perfection.

D500B

Sean_K wrote: »

Of course not.

Using the latest nanometer technology, the Budweiser freezers cryogenically treat a hybrid mixture of pure nitrogen and oxygen on a molecular level and use an advanced convection based heat transduction system to leave the product chilled to perfection.

Impressive - shame they don't put any effort into brewing

yoyo

Sean_K wrote: »

Of course not.

Using the latest nanometer technology, the Budweiser freezers cryogenically treat a hybrid mixture of pure nitrogen and oxygen on a molecular level and use an advanced convection based heat transduction system to leave the product chilled to perfection.

ok lol will take your word for it

Nick

marceldesailly

isn't cryogenics very very cold temperatures? anyway ye its just a bottle shaped can stuck in a cold fridge.brilliant. I think the "technology" might have something to do with this:

"The Budweiser Aluminium bottle delivers an improved cash margin per serve over draught beers to the on-trade"

amazing what you can sell to people

conno16

only been available in the US for the last 3 years
prob still think we're spud munchers here in ireland

kenmc

conno16 wrote: »

only been available in the US for the last 3 years
prob still think we're spud munchers here in ireland

Nothing wrong with spuds. Taste better than Buttweiper anyway.

gucci

If you poured it from a bottle (or can) at sub 5 degress. would it not freeze once the top is removed? As in it can be cold in the bottle once its carbonation levels are stable , but once the user opens the bottle and the gas is released, bubbles form then the freezing process would begin.......that would be my understanding of it?
So yeah what im trying to say is its marketting mumbo jumbo :pac::pac:

BeerNut

gucci wrote: »

If you poured it from a bottle (or can) at sub 5 degress. would it not freeze once the top is removed?

Nope. I know this 'cos I did it on Saturday. Though I didn't check if it was actually at -5.

Bill-e

Jeasus I remember drinking from them yokes in Boston around 2006. It was such a load of crap, the Americans lapped it up!

I do like the frozen tapes tho!
In my local we have competitions as to who can melt the biggest hole into it. Also, some funny bugger poured red cordial all over it and it was pink for a day.

gucci

BeerNut wrote: »

Nope. I know this 'cos I did it on Saturday. Though I didn't check if it was actually at -5.

I would suggest it wasnt -5, i have flash freezed beer to -20 and beyond and it remains in liquid format while under pressure of being in a can or bottle. Once you open it....then the problems start!! Not sure how the beer would react if it was saturated at -20 for a considerable length of time, its been a while since i done the experiments, il take a look at my notes later!

BeerNut

gucci wrote: »

I would suggest it wasnt -5,

So what would you say is the freezing point of a 4.3% ethanol solution at atmospheric pressure?

cavedave

According to here

The freezing point of a beer is given as Freezing point
(°C) = –0.42 × A + 0.04 × E + 0.2 in which A is the percent of
alcohol content by weight and E is the original gravity of the wort
(3). On this basis, each 1% increase in alcohol content lowers the
freezing point by 0.42°C and each increase in gravity of 1°Plato
(P) raises it by 0.04°C. Thus, no beer will freeze at –1°C, and
products at higher alcohol concentrations (including high-gravity
brews prior to dilution) will withstand even lower temperatures.

so 4.3 is a lowering by 1.8 degrees. So beer should freeze at -5 degrees. I wonder what anti freeze technique they use?

BeerNut

cavedave wrote: »

So beer should freeze at -5 degrees. I wonder what anti freeze technique they use?

Pressure, I'd imagine. The beer will be liquid in the bottle at -5, but by the time the cap comes off and the pressure is normalised it will be higher than freezing point.

And presumably the same thing would happen with an ordinary can, if you don't fancy spending the €6-something that these bottles cost each.

Tabnabs

Far too serious thinking going on here...

I am however happy to relate that Becks bottle will last 8 hours in the freezer (i.e. the working day) and be the perfect temperature when you come home/off duty. :cool:

gucci

BeerNut wrote: »

Pressure, I'd imagine. The beer will be liquid in the bottle at -5, but by the time the cap comes off and the pressure is normalised it will be higher than freezing point.

Yeah pressure is basically what keeps it liquidy in the glass. Ice needs a neuclation point to form, ie a bubble of air or similar, so until you fizz the top off its nice and liquidy!
From what i can recall saturating a bottle for up to a week at -5 even -6 was fine, but any lower and the liquid would start going into an icey solution. (im not quite sure of the dynamics that were causing this)
Sparkling water was the same down to -1.8 or so, ie it would freeze partially when you spilled it into a nice cold glass, so you would be left with about 50 % water and 50% slush, and the same with fizzy pop (which obviously vary in carbination levels and sugar, down to -2 or -3.

BeerNut wrote: »

And presumably the same thing would happen with an ordinary can, if you don't fancy spending the €6-something that these bottles cost each.

The tests i done were with standard glass bottles and cans. I would suggest the aluminum bottle is 50% marketing 50% to make sure there are no cock ups regarding a bottle cracking because of an quick change in temp.

*edit*
also wouldn't the liquid actually get warmer quicker in an aluminium vessel exposed to room temperature as opposed to a glass vessel? As aluminum has better thermal conductivity than glass?.....also i would imaging the aluminum is thinner than the glass in wall section (i haven't see the bottles yet!)

cavedave

lso wouldn't the liquid actually get warmer quicker in an aluminium vessel exposed to room temperature as opposed to a glass vessel? As aluminum has better thermal conductivity than glass?.....also i would imaging the aluminum is thinner than the glass in wall section (i haven't see the bottles yet!)

Aluminium seems to have similar specific heat capacity
Substance Cp kJ kg−1 K−
Aluminium 0.897
Glass[8] 0.84
Water 2.080
Ethanol 2.44

There seems to be a lot less mass in the aluminium bottle then the glass one though.

nevaeh-2die-4

i havent come across a place selling it yet.

im in the bum laoire area can anybody point me out to where its be sold in that area, cheers guys.

Btw the new bulmers pear is quit nice
(mark waits.... for some smart arse wanna be mod to say please keep on topic )

Mimikyu

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SarahJ

Will someone for the love of God tell me where to buy them???!!!

Thomas_S_Hunterson

SarahJ wrote: »

Will someone for the love of God tell me where to buy them???!!!

I can wee in an aluminium bottle and sell it to you.

You wont notice the difference

BeerNut

I've seen them on sale in SoHo in Cork and Break for the Border in Dublin.

guildofevil

And in the Ninth Circle of Hell.

BeerNut

guildofevil wrote: »

And in the Ninth Circle of Hell.

I already mentioned that, right after SoHo in Cork.

az2wp0sye65487

I'm not sure where you get them in Ireland. I never go for Bud here, don't like the taste.

But - I was in the States recently and tried one of these as they were new to me / a novelty. I have to say it wasn't bad! It was a lot colder than usual also. I ordered another Bud, but he brought me out a glass of draught, and that was your typical Bud p**s! - so I asked for the aluminium bottle again and there was definitly a difference.

Now, I'm not saying that it's brewed differently for these bottles or anything; it most likely was the novelty of the new type of bottle coupled with all the marketing! But it did seem much colder, and I like my beer extra cold! I think I'd give them another chance if I saw them here.

Chattymike

Tried the new Bud bottle. Have to say its really nice and veeeery cold. Could barely hold it. Bigger bottle than a normal glass one and relatively good value when you consider its 40% bigger. Also tried the new Bud Ice Draught. No more scanger cider for me. With the weather over the weekend this was beautiful and cold.

Chattymike

Hi Sarah

They are mostly in late night places. in Dublin I've seen it in Cafe En Seine, Flannerys, Whelan's & The Locke Bar in Limerick

YFlyer

Got a couple of them free in the Stables bar in University of limerick last Thursday night.

Not a Bud drinker but the stuff was OK.

YFlyer

Kason Unsightly Hash wrote: »

I'm not sure where you get them in Ireland. I never go for Bud here, don't like the taste.

But - I was in the States recently and tried one of these as they were new to me / a novelty. I have to say it wasn't bad! It was a lot colder than usual also. I ordered another Bud, but he brought me out a glass of draught, and that was your typical Bud p**s! - so I asked for the aluminium bottle again and there was definitly a difference.

Now, I'm not saying that it's brewed differently for these bottles or anything; it most likely was the novelty of the new type of bottle coupled with all the marketing! But it did seem much colder, and I like my beer extra cold! I think I'd give them another chance if I saw them here.

Fully agree

BeerNut

Chattymike wrote: »

relatively good value when you consider its 40% bigger.

When I saw it in Cork it was €6 for 473ml. So there you have it, folks: even in post-Tiger Ireland there are still people who consider €7.20 for a pint of beer "good value".

I wonder if they work for Diageo...

tippguy

anyone that wants them i can get them in especially at an off licence in thurles but you'd have to be buying the full case as they simply wont sell and its €2.79 a bottle. case of 24

Faith

All this talk of frozen beer reminds me of my J1 in California, where can of beer where often put in the freezer and forgotten about, then defrosted in the hot tub. Good times.

Slunk

They have them in Q Bar in Dublin. €6.70 I think it was (not that i paid it)

moikey

:pac:does anyone know where i could get these in galway?

Chattymike

Moikey,

Was up in Galway a coupke of weekends ago. Great craic with the Ocean race going on. Saw Aslan. Actually met the real Captain Morgan, love that drink. Saw the Bud Alu bottle in Cuba. Sad to say but I went to the take that gig last week and everyone was drinking it, seems to be catching on.

moikey

LOL take that!:cool: Aslan were brilliant i was at along with everyone in Galway!!
You didn see them in an offie by any chance? bit late now as i wanted them for the journey to slane never mind