Where to get an Oil extraction pump in Dublin?

John_Mc

Tried opening the sump plug on my car on Saturday but made a balls of it so have decided to get an Oil extraction pump to make oil changes easier.

Anyone know where I can get a hand powered pump to do this in Dublin?

Thanks in advance,
John

eringobragh

A few Motor factors do these. But I think you'd be better off draing via the sump as the down flow removes alot of the crap that sticks to the sump.

What problems did you have? A half decent ratchet should remove it no problem

3DataModem

I had to get mine on ebay... I tried getting a good one in Dublin but failed, so I got a Pela 6000 on ebay for about €50 or so.

PS: I don't agree necessarily that the sump method is better than the extractor method. This has been discussed a fair bit on motor forums (e.g. http://newbeetle.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26910). Apparently it depends on the engine. I spoke to a mechanic who said he's opened up Beetle engines (which I drive) after extracting oil with both methods and they are more-or-less the same, with top-extraction getting the slight edge.

macnab

I got 1 in Dunboyne Auto Parts. I do a sump drain every now and again just to clean it out 100%, dont forget some bungs are magnetic and hold onto any stray metal that might be present.

John_Mc

Thanks for the replies lads, the sump plug was extremely tight and I wasnt sure which way to turn it. Unfortunately, I chose the wrong way and the plug is looking a bit worse for wear now and is slipping

I have a 2002 Ford Focus (1.4 Petrol) so will there be any problems extraction from the top?

Thanks,
John

eringobragh

John_Mc wrote: »

Thanks for the replies lads, the sump plug was extremely tight and I wasnt sure which way to turn it. Unfortunately, I chose the wrong way and the plug is looking a bit worse for wear now and is slipping

I have a 2002 Ford Focus (1.4 Petrol) so will there be any problems extraction from the top?

Thanks,
John

Not good! Is there any leakage you may need to change the whole sump. Handy for future reference in a lot of things: righty tighty lefty loose!

Henry Ford III

Replace the sump plug. Trying to suck dirty engine oil upwards is a poor substitute for draining the sump.

John_Mc

eringobragh wrote: »

Not good! Is there any leakage you may need to change the whole sump. Handy for future reference in a lot of things: righty tighty lefty loose!

Yeah I know

There's no leakage as the plug didnt unscrew at all!

Nice one for the tip, will keep it in mind next time

John_Mc

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Replace the sump plug. Trying to suck dirty engine oil upwards is a poor substitute for draining the sump.

If you'd care to tell me how to do that given that I've damaged the sump plug so that it's slipping, I'd be happy to do that.

voxpop

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Replace the sump plug. Trying to suck dirty engine oil upwards is a poor substitute for draining the sump.

Why is that ? Have you tried sucking out oil with an extractor and then opening the sump to see whats left ? (I'll be doing this myself at the next oil change). One think about the extractor is that you can suck out all the dirty oil from the oil filter chamber

Henry Ford III

voxpop wrote: »

Why is that ? Have you tried sucking out oil with an extractor and then opening the sump to see whats left ? (I'll be doing this myself at the next oil change). One think about the extractor is that you can suck out all the dirty oil from the oil filter chamber

Gravity will empty the sump more fully imho. Besides why would a sump drain be fitted otherwise?

3DataModem

voxpop wrote: »

Why is that ? Have you tried sucking out oil with an extractor and then opening the sump to see whats left ? (I'll be doing this myself at the next oil change). One think about the extractor is that you can suck out all the dirty oil from the oil filter chamber

I did it the other way around. Drained the sump, and used the PELA to draw up what was left.

A lot.

Henry Ford III

Where can one buy a Pela Extractor in Ireland (Limerick)? Would be a handy thing to have.

Ferris

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Gravity will empty the sump more fully imho. Besides why would a sump drain be fitted otherwise?

Also a lot of turbocharged engines overheat the oil, causing the oil to seperate and 'sludge'. The sludge will block the oil pickup (VAG 1.8T and Saab 4cyl are known for this) and an oil extractor will not suck sludge up. On non turbo standard engine it should be fine to use but its worth draining from the sump too as a precaution.

OP a straight sided socket (6 sides) might remove your sump nut (as might a good mechanic). Halfords do them. Either way its something you will beed to do eventually.

macbog

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Where can one buy a Pela Extractor in Ireland (Limerick)? Would be a handy thing to have.

Joe McKenna in Parnell St . A bit pricey but a good brand , cheaper than anywhere else in Ireland and cheaper than Amazon . ( Sealey TP69 . € 89.95 )

horse7

Any more prices please?

Danny Donut

horse7 wrote: »

Any more prices please?

They may have gone up a bit in 5 years.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-Manual-Vacuum-Fluid-Extractor/dp/B000RA16CO/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1526398699&sr=8-12&keywords=oil+pump

Del2005

horse7 wrote: »

Any more prices please?

Keep an eye on Lidl and Aldi. They have battery ones regularly for about €20.

Cee-Jay-Cee

John_Mc wrote: »

If you'd care to tell me how to do that given that I've damaged the sump plug so that it's slipping, I'd be happy to do that.

If you have an imperial socket set (inches not mm's) then get the nearest corresponding socket which should be ever so slightly smaller than the 12 or 14mm sump plug (or whatever size it is) and tap it onto the sump plug with a hammer and you have no problem removing the nut. If that fails you can buy damaged nut remover/sockets that will get off all but the most rounded nuts.

I rounded off a 12mm caliper bracket bolt a few weeks ago (have no idea how I managed it but hey ho) anyway I used an imperial splined socket and tapped it on to the nut and it screwed off easily, so much so I left the nut in the socket and used it again to refit the bracket. I figured I'll never be replacing the discs again on that particular car and so next time it'll be someone else's problem.

On the subject of oil extractor pumps, make sure you are able to get a tube/pipe into your dipstick hole as some of them are extremely narrow as in the case of my Mazda 6. The hole is maybe 3mm wide and so no tube is ever going to fit down it. Ford/Mazda had a collaboration a few years ago and my dipstick is actually stamped FMC (Ford Motor Company) so your car may be similar.

biko

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