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deadwood

Todays Indo. Saturday, 7th March 2009.

Gardai are retiring as millionaires, apparently. :cool:

Looks to me like another seed planted to set the public against us in order to get popular support for something to come.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/garda-pension-worth-836411m-1664588.html

Mods, I know there's a news thread. Just thought this needs a bit of airing here first before it's moved.

hierro

I agree with you, looking very like it...

To be absolutely honest with you and not really wanting a scrap, it is symbolic of the sort of crap the government over the years the left us with. I'm bloody fuming with the issues that have arisen and require re-jigging, as well as lots of other problems they have created by being flippant for years....

snubbleste

I heard this on Pat Kenny at the time the lady was on with the figures and it's true!
Maybe the GRA should've protested at the last benchmarking process that the State was being far too generous!

bluecell99

Why dont they talk about the fact that it takes three years to earn a fat pension from the Dail and a big cushion if they lose their seat.Ahhhhhhhhhhh.
Only Gardai have to be highlighted.

TD's and their friends in the quangos must be laughing all the way to the bank as usual .Now how much did the "Financial Regulator" walk away with?

€600,000 ah sure God help him.


Seems that there is a set agenda against the Gardai and it's nauseating to see Kenny and Duffy spring to life whenever Guards are mentioned.Their obsesssion with them demonstrates a total lack of interest in other public servants- such as teachers with their fat salaries and nice long holidays - not to mention Duffy's massive pay check for babbling nonsensical clap trap five days a week.

Celticfire

snubbleste wrote: »

Maybe the GRA should've protested at the last benchmarking process that the State was being far too generous!

I think you'll find that what they got was a big fat zero percent.

brayblue24

Plus we only tend to live for about 5 years after retirement. They always "forget" to mention that.

daithip

What would be the chances of selling it at half price for €500k. Can just see the ebay listing now:p

deadwood

brayblue24 wrote: »

Plus we only tend to live for about 5 years after retirement. They always "forget" to mention that.

We all have a fair idea that this id true from personal experience, but if we're going to keep throwing this one out, can anyone provide some proof please?

Mrs Deadwood doesn't need proof. Herself and the pool boy have been doing a lot of measuring lately having read of recently retired millionaire guards dying as they walk out the gates of the depot with their bags of money.

cushtac

Pool boy? even more proof of astronomical Garda wages...

deadwood

cushtac wrote: »

Pool boy? even more proof of astronomical Garda wages...

Well, he's a cabin boy too on the Deadwood gin palace - we all have to cut back a wee bit.

eroo

deadwood wrote: »

Well, he's a cabin boy too on the Deadwood gin palace - we all have to cut back a wee bit.

Any job vacancies at the palace?

parsi

Perhaps the staff associations should become large advertisers in the Indo - they don't seem to criticise any of their advertisers for fear of losing business.

GazeeboBrown

Aren't the GRA starting an advertising campaign?

flyton5

I smell a gratuity tax...but then so does everyone.

Eru

If we get 50% of our annual income per year in pension payments and 80 grand gratuity am I right in suggesting this figure is based on me living for roughly 30 odd years after retirement?

A, Say even retiring on an annual income of 80 grand which is not accurate. thats 40 grand per year pension which still leaves me only getting to the million mark after 25 years. Whens the last time a mule managed that?

B, But then, by the same token a scote that never worked in his life will get about 290 thousand for sitting at home and never paying a penny in tax over the same time frame.

C, A person who worked all their lives, paid tax but had no private pension scheme will get approximately 300 thousand for the same period.

In fairness, we should stop the witch hunt against public sector workers who paid tax and pension contributions and start looking closely at Mr Couldnt-be-arsed-working.

djtechnics1210

+1 Eru
I'll gladly give up my pension if they can guarantee i live for 25 years after i retire...

coolinblue

as everyone knows.. when times were good the guards were the s**t on the slate.. when everyone else is losing income, they turn to the guards cribbing why should they not get hit,, absolute disgrace - we could all have decided to work in a different job years ago, maybe if these people who drive big jeeps/ppl carriers and wear sunglasses on cloudy days paid their bills the world would be a better place:mad:

ixoy

Eru wrote: »

If we get 50% of our annual income per year in pension payments and 80 grand gratuity am I right in suggesting this figure is based on me living for roughly 30 odd years after retirement?

That would appear to be the case going by their figures - a lot of it is based on retiring at 50 and living 30+ years afterwards. Out of curiosity, you've given anecdotal evidence this isn't the case... what leads you to believe there's a short life span post retirement?
Do most Guards retire at 50 and only live to 55? Genuinely curious.

Say even retiring on an annual income of 80 grand which is not accurate. thats 40 grand per year pension which still leaves me only getting to the million mark after 25 years. Whens the last time a mule managed that?

Well not quite since the pension would increase in line with the position you retired at.

Despite the fact that a lot of the pension stuff is incredibly generous (especially for those areas that don't have a difficult job in front-line services), this article is sensationalist Indo nonsense. Entertaining in a headline grabbing way, but I imagine those figures could be refuted a bit.

johnnyskeleton

Q1: Does the government need to cut back on public sector payments?

A1: Yes.

Q2: Does this mean there have to be less gardai on the streets?

A: No, not necessarily.

Q3: Is this a mandate for gardai to strike?

A: Why not? I fully support any garda who wants to better their aims in life. I should say that I also want to see Fiana Fail reduced to their knees, and I think both things can be brought about at the same time. I also think that it will mean more crime and more insufficiently investigated prosecutions, but it's all good.

deadwood

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Q3: Is this a mandate for gardai to strike?

A: Why not?

While we're fuming at the new levvies/taxes, we will still act within the law. We are not allowed strike and this idea has never, and will never, be considered. We can only exploit those avenues legally open to us (tabloid poster campaigns noywithstanding) otherwise we face disciplinary proceedings. Saying "well, they can't sack you all" doesn't cut it.