Emigration

Joe_scooter

Hi Folks,

Am qualified as tax consultant and have 8 years experience in total including 4 PQE. No jobs in Ireland, no high level activity going on anymore. To be honest though you can't trust anyone in the profession anymore anyway so even when your told there's no work can you believe it? I know capital taxes etc are way down but only represents possible value drops. Shower of b*****ds at the top anyway, always shafting the youth and anyone anyway good who might "steal" their clients. Whoever heard of people "belonging" to people as clients.

Was a manager in last job. Looking at emigration and know I can work in mainland Europe but don't know how to start job hunting process for there etc. Don't know the whole rigmaroll basically.

Can anyone direct me to websites/companies/recruitment agencies who can assist me in this regard?

PCPhoto

why not set yourself up on your own and start your own business - ...... maybe do the books of some sole traders/small businesses on boards....if the price is reasonable I'm sure plenty will convert.

Joe_scooter

Not as simple as that. My qualification is essentially a legal qualification. An expert on tax law. I am not an accountant. Check taxireland.ie and do a bit of reading on the qualification. It's not an accounting qualification. I am not a bookkeeper. Anyone, to be honest can write up a list of invoices/cheques etc without any level of formal education.

I saved people €1million plus in tax over an 18 month period in my last job. Those days are long gone. It doesn't even count for anything when mentioning it in interviews for accountancy practices.

I set myself up on my own as you put it last year but business activity in Ireland is well down. But I can't afford an office. People are so snobbish you have to have an office to be in business these days. Set up website, whole lot but nothing. They stick to their cliques, buddies. People don't jump in relationship services. Ask some of your friends who might be running a business (pub/shop) whether they would think of changing accountants (they do most tax work even though not qualified as tax consultants) and you'll be told no.

Would prefer if people could stick to the core question at the bottom of my original posting. I don't want to be wasting time.

PCPhoto wrote: »

why not set yourself up on your own and start your own business - ...... maybe do the books of some sole traders/small businesses on boards....if the price is reasonable I'm sure plenty will convert.

acontadino

there are no jobs in usa or australia and you migrate to other eu states so really i don't see where people will emmigrate..maby in their dream

Joe_scooter

Look, to be honest I am looking for answers to the questions I asked, not for opinions on likely prospects. I'll follow up on the answers and make my own decisions from there.

Thanks

acontadino wrote: »

there are no jobs in usa or australia and you migrate to other eu states so really i don't see where people will emmigrate..maby in their dream

dh0661

Joe_scooter wrote: »

Would prefer if people could stick to the core question at the bottom of my original posting. I don't want to be wasting time.

Plus your response @ #5

Joe - people around here want to help. All the replies you receive might not be what you want to hear.

IMO on Boards, is like a general discussion in a bar or wherever, everyone is entitled to put their point of view across without getting their nose bitten off.

I can understand that you are a very focused professional person. But on Boards I think you'll have to lighten up a bit and I'll bet that you will get a much better response.

Joe_scooter

dh0661 wrote: »

without getting their nose bitten off.

Are you currently working? If yes then you have no understanding of how I am feeling right now. I am not biting people's nose off - It's called pressure and frustration. Ever find yourself saying "sure what's the point, let's wait for the repossession"? If not then I hope you never do.

dh0661 wrote: »

I can understand that you are a very focused professional person. But on Boards I think you'll have to lighten up a bit and I'll bet that you will get a much better response.

Yes I am very focussed and I'm alot better than many people working in my profession right now but what can you do. Alot of incompotent people in mgr positions shafting people so that they are not caught out.

road_2_damascus

hi Joe, mybe just google a few international recruitment agencies.Register with a few of them, get the CV and cover letter into them. Aim for countries like Switzerland, Bahrain, Norway, Denmark etc. Are you connected abroad at all?

Alun

One thing no one seems to have pointed out is that it's probably highly unlikely that someone with a qualification, no matter how good, in Irish tax law will be able to get a job just like that in another European country. Apart from the obvious language barrier, tax systems and regulations are very different across the EU, and there's probably no shortage of trained local people at the moment looking for work as well. The clue is in the first word of "Global Economic Crisis".

lady_j

OP, I'd suggest changing the title if you only want advise specific to your occupation. There is a working abroad expo on in the rds at the end of the month, keep an eye on what exhibitors are coming... and hopefully there will be a recruiter/ company you can talk to. www.workingabroad.ie. Also there is a living abroad forum under region which might help with emigration queries

Joe_scooter

road_2_damascus wrote: »

hi Joe, mybe just google a few international recruitment agencies.Register with a few of them, get the CV and cover letter into them. Aim for countries like Switzerland, Bahrain, Norway, Denmark etc. Are you connected abroad at all?

Not connected abroad but what exactly do you mean by that?

Joe_scooter

lady_j wrote: »

OP, I'd suggest changing the title if you only want advise specific to your occupation. There is a working abroad expo on in the rds at the end of the month, keep an eye on what exhibitors are coming... and hopefully there will be a recruiter/ company you can talk to. www.workingabroad.ie. Also there is a living abroad forum under region which might help with emigration queries

You know, this is the first real constructive posting I have had on this. A big thanks. I'll look into it for sure.

Joe_scooter

Alun wrote: »

One thing no one seems to have pointed out is that it's probably highly unlikely that someone with a qualification, no matter how good, in Irish tax law will be able to get a job just like that in another European country. Apart from the obvious language barrier, tax systems and regulations are very different across the EU, and there's probably no shortage of trained local people at the moment looking for work as well. The clue is in the first word of "Global Economic Crisis".

No such thing as economic crisis. It's just extremely wealthy people holding onto it, crushing people with less resources until they are put back in their box. There's a company in Ireland owned by a Russian billionaire and in the last 12 months he flooded the marketplace with the product produced by that company. The market price of the product is now a third of what it was. He is apparently up to his eyes in debt and is shifting it onto the books of the company. He is then claiming his company is broke (it's not in reality) and seeking a bailout from the Russian Gov't. He'll get it, and he and his company will be grand. But what's the effect of all that - his competitors have been swamped and crushed due to the crash in price, not because they were not good at their business so when he gets his bailout he will mop up all the other business and crank up the price again of the product. That's all that a recession is designed to achieve. It just so happens that it is going on in every country at the moment. Cynically created circumstances for the benefit of a few. The cash hasn't been thrown into furnasses, it's just in storage until the little people forget the pretensions of grandeur that they all started having as a result of a boom. Let them eat cake.

Believe it or not it's fact.

Alun

Joe_scooter wrote: »

Believe it or not it's fact.

OK, I'll choose the latter. By the way, the Conspiracy Theories forum is that way

---

>

Joe_scooter

lady_j wrote: »

OP, I'd suggest changing the title if you only want advise specific to your occupation. There is a working abroad expo on in the rds at the end of the month, keep an eye on what exhibitors are coming... and hopefully there will be a recruiter/ company you can talk to. www.workingabroad.ie. Also there is a living abroad forum under region which might help with emigration queries

Are you by any chance involved in any way with the promotion of this exhibit? Are you an owner of the organising company? Seems strange for someone to just throw out that when so many others have thrown out unfocussed comments.

Joe_scooter

Alun wrote: »

OK, I'll choose the latter. By the way, the Conspiracy Theories forum is that way

---

>

Not a theory. An employee of the company told me and remember I have worked in an industry where I have seen these practicies at first hand. I know what goes on. It's all over the newspapers also. If I had said a couple of years ago there are company directors drawing down millions in directors loans and hiding them you would have ridiculed me too. Now look what we know. Sure Enron was a theory too until we found out it was real. You're just too scared to believe that it could be real. Well believe it buddy cos its real.

Xiney

Correct me if I'm wrong, but tax law varies considerably from country to country, correct?

If so, would you still be qualified in a country with significantly different tax laws? Would your experience in Ireland be worth anything elsewhere?


I don't know anything about tax consultancy, but then, this is boards, not a tax consultancy board.

Joe_scooter

YEs and no. European Court of Justice having a big say in taw law europe wide now and I need to keep abreast of that also. So it's not as simple as it appears.

Xiney wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but tax law varies considerably from country to country, correct?

If so, would you still be qualified in a country with significantly different tax laws? Would your experience in Ireland be worth anything elsewhere?


I don't know anything about tax consultancy, but then, this is boards, not a tax consultancy board.

lady_j

Joe_scooter wrote: »

Are you by any chance involved in any way with the promotion of this exhibit? Are you an owner of the organising company? Seems strange for someone to just throw out that when so many others have thrown out unfocussed comments.

No not at all, it was mentioned in an article in the indo yesterday on emigration. I'm looking at emigrating myself, personally I ain't paying the ten euro into that event until I see the exhibitors list, cause it could just be usit plugging their WHV for Oz.

There is truth in what people are saying, it is a global recession and its not going to be easy to get a job anywhere. I am looking at emigrating more for quality of life that I don't think I'll have if I stay in Ireland, if you are leaving purely for a job you might end up disapointed.

Ellen Cam

Joe,

You're completely paranoid! I have to laugh!