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Verne Gagne 'Bodyslam' Killing At OAP Home

  • 06-03-2009 3:33pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭


    Source: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090306/twl-ex-wrestler-in-bodyslam-killing-at-o-3fd0ae9.html
    A retired pro-wrestler is believed to have bodyslammed a 97-year-old fellow nursing home patient, causing the man's death.

    Verne Gagne, 83, apparently broke Helmutt Gutmann's hip in the manouevre at their nursing home in Indiana, US.

    Mr Gutmann, a former cancer researcher, died three weeks after the incident.

    Authorities ruled the death was homicide but details of the event are unclear because neither man could recall what happened.

    Police are investigating but not even the victim's widow wants to see Mr Gagne, who suffers from Alzheimer's disease, prosecuted.

    Betty Gutmann says she does not blame Mr Gagne for her husband's death and believes he had no idea what he was doing.

    She said most Alzheimer's victims are old and frail, and when they lash out they do not usually cause much harm.

    But she added that Mr Gagne "was a professional athlete and was trained to do certain moves. This is what makes him much more dangerous than the ordinary person" with dementia.

    Behaviour and personality changes are common as Alzheimer's progresses and victims of the disease can become agitated.

    Mr Gagne has lost most of his short-term memory, while his recollection of events long ago remains vivid.

    There is speculation he was experiencing a flashback to his wrestling days but it is almost impossible to verify.

    His son, Greg Gagne, a former wrestler himself, said: "It's been so hard on both families."

    Police said they plan to forward the case to prosecutors for possible charges but it is unlikely Mr Gagne will be convicted.

    Indiana state law prohibits prosecuting anyone without the mental capacity to understand the proceedings or offer a defence.

    Since the tragedy he has been moved to another institution.

    During his glory days as a pro-wrestler, Verne Gagne shared the spotlight with top fighters Killer Kowalski, Mad Dog Vachon, the Crusher and Baron Von Raschke.

    Gagne is the founder and owner of the American Wrestling Association and wore its championship belt.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Hah, and they say raslin's fake :pac:

    --
    serious face..
    Bit shocking actually

    more links :
    sky
    Associated Press


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,027 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Read this about a week ago elsewhere..tis old news..Strange old fellow he is though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭mrstpatsfc


    speaking of strange people,perry saturn anyone heard anything about him?

    apparently hes missing the last two years and failed to go the funeral of former tag partner kronus.he stopped somebody during a rape incident and has been off the wall since


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    This doesn't surprise me. Verne is quite old school and he was at olympic level before he turned pro but didn't have the cash to enter (and that was public knowledge before the AWA DVD was even released), he always worked snug.

    Guess he didn't forget the one thing he lived for during Alzheimers. It's kinda sad as well cos the guy is probably oblivious now that the guy's dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    mrstpatsfc wrote: »
    he stopped somebody during a rape incident and has been off the wall since

    He took a couple of bullets in the back and side of the neck for that incident.
    You take them, and come back to me and tell me if you're the same since! ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    There was a lot on this in the Observer last week. Gagne had been kicked out of the home before for violent outbursts. One time he put Guttman in a headlock because he wouldn't stop shouting

    It's just a sad story

    As for Saturn, the Observer had updates on him nearly every week for a good while. Dave was able to track down a place where he had recently worked and a gym where he recently trained, but I think in the end the conclusion was that he's put a lot of effort into distancing himself from wrestling and from his family and friends. Some people said that he wasn't in great shape anymore. Sounds like a bit of a sad case too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Two sad stories. But to be honest I'm more shocked that stuff like this doesn't happen more often. There's a lot of ****ed up individuals in that wrestling industry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Firewalkwithme


    Chris Jericho vs Verne Gagne - Wrestlemania 25


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Read this about a week ago elsewhere..tis old news..Strange old fellow he is though

    Having Alzheimers disease isn't strange, its tragic. Odd choice of words there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,602 ✭✭✭✭ShawnRaven


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Having Alzheimers disease isn't strange, its tragic. Odd choice of words there.

    Nail on the head here, Alzheimers isn't a side effect from a drug, and i'm pretty sure there aren't a load of people wanting to sign up for Alzheimers 101.

    I know i'm a cruel motherf*cker when it comes to illnesses, but even I won't touch this one.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    ShawnRaven wrote: »
    Nail on the head here, Alzheimers isn't a side effect from a drug, and i'm pretty sure there aren't a load of people wanting to sign up for Alzheimers 101.

    I know i'm a cruel motherf*cker when it comes to illnesses, but even I won't touch this one.
    Fair play man. Thanks flahavaj also. Alzheimers is such a cruel disease. My neighbour suffered from it and his wife divorced him because she was unable to cope with his suffering.

    I won't name anyone but its clear to see who I have no respect for on this forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    I won't name anyone but its clear to see who I have no respect for on this forum.

    Quit stirring shyte


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,027 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Fair play man. Thanks flahavaj also. Alzheimers is such a cruel disease. My neighbour suffered from it and his wife divorced him because she was unable to cope with his suffering.

    I won't name anyone but its clear to see who I have no respect for on this forum.

    ty xoxo

    If you got a problem with me pm me..if not...c.t.f.o stirring little shyte


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