EOS New Manager of USA

racso1975

Eddie has moved back state side!!!! In Fairness to the guy I had thought he'd have got a better position then that!!!!

bamboozle

i'd have given him the Connacht job.

Robbo

bamboozle wrote: »

i'd have given him the Connacht job.

Unfortunately, Bradley would have to do something spectacularly wrong to be sacked and who else would have him.

Paulw

Must be decent money in it for EOS.

I think he might be able to improve the US world standing on rugby. It's still only a growing sport there.

Might make for some tours for the Irish teams.

premierstone

So EOS is the new George Hook :eek:

twinytwo

Paulw wrote: »

Must be decent money in it for EOS.

I think he might be able to improve the US world standing on rugby. It's still only a growing sport there.

Might make for some tours for the Irish teams.

Why bother???... They would prob be steamed rolled by Munster and leinster so unless Connacht/Ulster were sent it would be a waste of money/time and possible injury to players for nothing

twinytwo

premierstone wrote: »

So EOS is the new George Hook :eek:

No EOS actually has some clue as to what he is on about/doing

velocirafter

twinytwo wrote: »

Why bother???... They would prob be steamed rolled by Munster and leinster so unless Connacht/Ulster were sent it would be a waste of money/time and possible injury to players for nothing

Munster played USA two years ago in chicago, they are warm up matches before the season starts

twinytwo

velocirafter wrote: »

Munster played USA two years ago in chicago, they are warm up matches before the season starts

Ya and in Aug of last year they played again and munster with an under strength team... ie no internationals( As far as i can remember.. Earls played i think) beat them 46-22..... almost as worthless as Ireland playing canada

Eoin

Hope he does better than this "Eddie the Eagle":

premierstone wrote: »

So EOS is the new George Hook :eek:

They both already worked there together.

TwintyTwo wrote:

No EOS actually has some clue as to what he is on about/doing

*sigh* As I said in the McGurk thread - read Hook's book. He has coached for quite some time, a lot of it with EOS, and some of that time EOS was his assistant. Not saying he's a guru, but he is not the complete ignoramus that people think.

Chucky the tree

Hardluck USA.

Noopti

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Hardluck USA.

Why hard luck? I wouldn't be surprised to see EOS make a decent team out of them, and also put in place some good structures allowing growth.

EOS and his limitations might not have been able to take a talented bunch of Irish players to the next level, but he could certainly improve the Eagles.

Eoin

Well said. A bit of revisionism going on. He stayed too long in the Irish job, but he was hardly the worst manager we've had.

Chucky the tree

Noopti wrote: »

Why hard luck? I wouldn't be surprised to see EOS make a decent team out of them, and also put in place some good structures allowing growth.

EOS and his limitations might not have been able to take a talented bunch of Irish players to the next level, but he could certainly improve the Eagles.

I dont think he's style of management suits a developing team. Hopefully the fact he's a relatively big name will encourage more teams to play USA/he'll have a bigger chance of getting games organised himself.

Eoin

If his management style is indeed very authoritarian, then I think that suits a more professional team less than a developing team. My reasoning being that a professional and established team are probably more justified to disagree with him than a team that might have a lot to learn from him.

zAbbo

http://www.usarugby.org/

“We are obviously delighted to announce Eddie as the new Eagles coach,” USA Rugby CEO and President of Operations Nigel Melville said. “He is knowledgeable about the American game and has an outstanding track record as an international coach. Eddie has worked with the world’s top players and will bring enormous enthusiasm to the role.”

O’Sullivan, an Irish-born high speed utility back, played club rugby with Garryowen F.C., and also represented the province of Munster and Ireland A. Along with working as a development officer with the Irish Rugby Football Union in the late ‘80s, he has coached at all levels of the game, including Age-Grade (Schools & Youths), Senior Club (Blackrock College R.F.C. & Buccaneers R.F.C.), Provincial (Connacht) and International levels.

After coaching the Irish Under-21 Team to their first ever Triple Crown in ’97, O’Sullivan joined USA Rugby as Assistant Coach to the Eagles (Forwards Coach) and Assistant National Technical Director. In 1998, he took over as National Technical Director while still retaining his position on the Eagles Coaching Staff.

During his time at USA Rugby he was instrumental in developing the USA Rugby Coaching Accreditation Program. On completing his duties with the Eagles during the ’99 Rugby World Cup he returned to Ireland to take up the position of Assistant Coach with the Irish National Team and has been with Ireland ever since, eventually filling the role of head coach in 2001.

Since taking charge of Ireland’s National Rugby Team in November 2001, O'Sullivan has dramatically changed their style and has become one of their most successful coaches with a win/loss ratio of 50-28 (.64). Respected as one of the most professionally thorough and innovative coaches in rugby, he made history by leading Ireland to three Triple Crown victories in the last four years and oversaw the defeat of every major power in the game, with the exception of the New Zealand All Blacks.

One of the game's great strategists, it is under O'Sullivan's guidance that several of the most influential young players in the game have emerged, which has done much to spread the appeal and popularity to a wider audience of rugby in Ireland.

“I am delighted to accept the invitation to coach the U.S. Eagles. It is an exciting challenge, which comes at a crucial period when I share their ambitions to qualify for Rugby World Cup 2011,” O’Sullivan said.

“In re-joining USA Rugby I am going back to my coaching roots as it were and while I am delighted that much progress has been made since my last involvement, I am driven now by a determination that I share with the Eagles to demonstrate that USA Rugby has the resolve to establish its identity amongst the leading Nations in the game.”

Fair play to Eddie, he was lambasted during the last year or two - maybe rightly so, but best of luck with the Eagles.

johnnyboy4711

Robbo wrote: »

Unfortunately, Bradley would have to do something spectacularly wrong to be sacked and who else would have him.

Can you list what he has done RIGHT???
john

Deedsie

I say best of luck to him. I hope it works out well. He gave us a fair amount to cheer about early on. He was left stay too long, i blame the blazers for that.

A developing nation having up to a couple of years ago a guaranteed Lions coach is a great thing. Fair play to the US authorities for bringing him in.

USA are the sleeping giant of International Rugby. If they got a few of those NFL boys they could have our number in the scrum.

If they could be a very competitive tier two team they might advertise the game more globally.

premierstone

johnnyboy4711 wrote: »

Can you list what he has done RIGHT???
john

Seriously?? Look I for one was delighted when he didnt get the Munster job cos I dont think he was ready for it but he has done an excellent job with connaught considering the resources he has. When was the last time Connaught beat Munster and Leinster in competitive fixtures in the same season :rolleyes:

velocirafter

premierstone wrote: »

Seriously?? Look I for one was delighted when he didnt get the Munster job cos I dont think he was ready for it but he has done an excellent job with connaught considering the resources he has. When was the last time Connaught beat Munster and Leinster in competitive fixtures in the same season :rolleyes:

You cant use one off victories to justify success. Some consistent form and maybe getting of the bottom of the ML might be considered a bit more successfull. admittedly there are much bigger problems at connacht than mike bradley

Deedsie

velocirafter wrote: »

You cant use one off victories to justify success. Some consistent form and maybe getting of the bottom of the ML might be considered a bit more successfull. admittedly there are much bigger problems at connacht than mike bradley

Mike Bradley should be commended for just sticking it out with Connacht. If he had the resources of the other 3 provinces he could do just as good a job.

Its unfair to judge him by the standards of other clubs because connacht are a unique club. They are under funded and under appreciated more than all the clubs in the ML.

velocirafter

Deedsie wrote: »

Mike Bradley should be commended for just sticking it out with Connacht. If he had the resources of the other 3 provinces he could do just as good a job.

Its unfair to judge him by the standards of other clubs because connacht are a unique club. They are under funded and under appreciated more than all the clubs in the ML.

i agree, but if you're constantly bottom of the magners league then surely your goal has to be to try and improve on that, to date that has not happened.

There are lots of reasons why connacht cant do this but the buck has to stop somewhere and a manager is defined by his results which have not really progressed connacht to another level

Eoin

So - EOS new manager of the Eagles, eh?

r0nanf

eoin wrote: »

So - EOS new manager of the Eagles, eh?

Fact.



Anyway EOS will be good for the Eagles - his record in the 6N is second only to the French, and despite usually losing the most important games he did bring a much needed organizational skill set to the Irish set up.

There's a lot of people playing rugby at junior level in the states, but it doesn't translate into senior players. They need to focus on attracting the kids who don't get drafted for college or NFL, then they'd be a scary prospect.

Chucky the tree

eoin wrote: »

If his management style is indeed very authoritarian, then I think that suits a more professional team less than a developing team. My reasoning being that a professional and established team are probably more justified to disagree with him than a team that might have a lot to learn from him.

I just dont think picking the same 15 players for the next 4 years helps a team like USA who will be developing and finding new talent quite regularly.

corny

His first game in charge will be against Ireland won't it? Wasn't his biggest fan ever but hope he does well with the yanks.