Response to being dropped from team

63587614

Guys, question to the forum.

What is the best way to respond from being omitted from starting team.

Is it norm in Gaa to have favoritism.

Wait patiently for opportunity and perform to highest level, what merits a good/great performance to get inclusion.

homerjay2005

Gaa has more "favourtism" than any other game in the world - fact. this more like the mafia than an sport.

how should you react?depends on your character. ive seen lads quit after being dropped. ive seen lads stick 2 fingers up to the sideline after scoring a point after coming on. ive seen lads throw jerseys at sideline after the game. ive seen lads f*ck the manager out of it. ive seen lads hit the manager. some people will just get on with it and wait their time and then play well when they get back on the team.

i may or may not have done any of the above in the past.

GAAman

I was gonna post something very similar to homer there but that post sums it all up

I would lash the f*ck outta trainin and earn the place, there is favouritism in teams from the biggest county to the smallest parish in one form or another but a good chunk of the times players will use this excuse because accepting they have gotten complacent/crap is not an option

eroo

homerjay2005 wrote: »

some people will just get on with it and wait their time and then play well when they get back on the team.

That works well in any sport. Lashing out or moaning wont help!

Marse

GAAman wrote: »

I was gonna post something very similar to homer there but that post sums it all up

I would lash the f*ck outta trainin and earn the place, there is favouritism in teams from the biggest county to the smallest parish in one form or another but a good chunk of the times players will use this excuse because accepting they have gotten complacent/crap is not an option

Agree, horse the guy out of it. If it keeps up speak to the manager.

IIMII

eroo wrote: »

That works well in any sport. Lashing out or moaning wont help!

Escpecially the moaning, particularly anywhere near the club or anyone connected to it. Give out **** when you get home, but not to anyone involved with the team. And don't walk away - you will regret it. Just get on with training - I've seen a few lads in this situation that just come across as sulky when they should just be making their point on the field

63587614

I agree boys, as hard as it is not to totally freak out, complaining at the match is no good for anyone.

Performance is the key to returning to any team, i'm a wing fwd as well.

So I suppose, scores are paramount to returning to the starting line-up.

Playing cup match this wknd.

Hard to prove it in training, because it's simply ****e session, no backs and fwds or proper competitive training.

I must mention this is for the 2nd team also.

Funny thing is, it's nearly easier to get on the 1st team.

IIMII

63587614 wrote: »

Hard to prove it in training, because it's simply ****e session, no backs and fwds or proper competitive training.

That'll make it a wee bit tougher. Chances are you'll get your break though, sooner or later

phil

Wanna prove your point? start practicing on your own, training on your own, get fitter, stronger, when you get your chance, you make them put you on by how you play. Change things in your own control - i.e. how you perform. You cannot make a manager or selector pick you and bitching and moaning will only make them think you're a whinger. Everything is always relative. If you work much harder than the lads around you, you'll improve at a faster pace than they will. If you improve much more, they'll find it hard to leave you out of the team. Use it as an excuse to yourself to train harder.

eroo

phil wrote: »

Wanna prove your point? start practicing on your own, training on your own, get fitter, stronger, when you get your chance, you make them put you on by how you play. Change things in your own control - i.e. how you perform. You cannot make a manager or selector pick you and bitching and moaning will only make them think you're a whinger. Everything is always relative. If you work much harder than the lads around you, you'll improve at a faster pace than they will. If you improve much more, they'll find it hard to leave you out of the team. Use it as an excuse to yourself to train harder.

+1

portumna

Just get your head down and work even harder. There's no point in pissin n moanin cause that'll only put you further down the pecking order. You can show some disappointment when the team is named to show them that you care but once you leave the dressing room get your chin up and support the rest of the lads. Thats the attitude that teams need. Not some whinger than sulks in the dugout.

Last year our goalkeeper got dropped for the semi final and togged in and went home before the game. We went on to win the county final and i'm sure he regrets it now. That is certainly not the way to go!

delta_bravo

63587614 wrote: »

I agree boys, as hard as it is not to totally freak out, complaining at the match is no good for anyone.

Performance is the key to returning to any team, i'm a wing fwd as well.

So I suppose, scores are paramount to returning to the starting line-up.

Playing cup match this wknd.

Hard to prove it in training, because it's simply ****e session, no backs and fwds or proper competitive training.

I must mention this is for the 2nd team also.

Funny thing is, it's nearly easier to get on the 1st team.

Is it Inter or Junior football?

63587614

Junior football. Crazy because i've been training with senior since Jan. New manager, pre-season etc. That's why i'm so angry. Got a run out with 1st team, new manager wanted to get a look at whoever was training hard since Jan. I got 5mins at end of cup game at wing back.

Think i'm going to keep showing up for seniors, better set-up and also an opportunity to improve as player.

63587614

Well, had the match today. Was shoved in cnr fwd, not my fav position. Fair to say I had poor game overall. 1 shot in first half with back to goal, left leg, inches wide.

Definitely down the pecking order now and righly so. I asked a question about how to define a positive/good performance. Now I think I have an ans.

Making the right decision. Simple isn't it but hard to execute all the time. Knowing when to take the ball on, skill on the ball, passing range, good pass. When to take a shot or pass.

How to time a run, positioning, corner forwards, stay in. This doesn't suit me because I like to run, and have space.

Well it's back to drawing board and head down at training and wait for chance to come and take it. DRIVE AND SCORE!

Matt Santos

As has been said this is a problem that exists in every club and parish in the country. It may be only a minor amount of the time but as I have learned it is a constant threat to all marginal players. The selectors will usually go for the proven than the form player.
I no longer play any competitive GAA but at minor level the die was cast and after a double stomach sickening blow to my self esteem I transfered out of the county to my working county.
At 17, after dedicated training and starting in all Championship and League games I was dropped to accomadate a player that was flown back from the States and had not trained with the panel all year. Not having a parent that was high profile within the club also worked against me in this instance. The team went on to win convincingly and I was told that "there would always be next year!"
The next year I was a much more established player but after a similar Championship and League campaign we had an issue with a player that was an excellent talent but was notoriously lazy in training and his attendance was poor at best. The team was pretty settled with me in place but the Final was going to be tight and the selectors again went for the talent ahead of the team player. With 15 mins to go and my second sickening really in full flow the selectors refused to take off the player in question which would have sent the signal that they were wrong and went about taking off another player who was just not getting to grips with his opposite number. A positional change was the correct course but they called him ashore and asked me to get ready to enter the fray.
At eighteen years of age and in front of 15k people I took the decision that I would not come on and took my boots off and went to the changing rooms.
Some said I was right others gave me the "A team is with its subs" speech.....
Meh.....I was probably just not good enough!!

63587614

I don't understand Santos, why did you walk away after being told you were coming on. Was it because of the player in question who took you place was not being subbed but they scapegoated someone else.

Can I ask were you a cnr fwd. Funny, in most games, if there is a sub to be made it's nearly always the cnr fwd who comes off first and not a positional switch like you suggested.

A mentor once said to me don't be forced away. I enjoy training and competing. You should go back and join a team and prove to yourself that you are a worthy player. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

The key to having a succesful club is communication and encouragement especially at underage level.

Ginja Ninja

Well as you said yourself OP you usually play back (as do I) and like space. last year I had to play midfield (small club and I'm tall) and the one thing I learned was that there is no set piece to a team and trust me in my experience there is very little more dangerous than a back than has the balls to take the ball and run with it.In fact this was what i spent most of my time covering (lazy backs) so IF you do get on as they say "do your talking on the field" and i've found that bitchin' has very little to do with getting on the team ,negative if anything ,but this depends on your manager.

LeoB

Santos if you done that on me you would not need a transfer form, you let everyone down.

I was dropped more times that a bar of soap but always just got stuck in and tried harder. One day I was sickened when a lad arrived back for championship and I was dropped. Waited till game was over and said my few words. I told manager I would be there when this other ******* was gone off somewhere else and I would be there when he was finished as manager also. I didnt shout, the manager knew I was right and he was wrong. Time proved this also.
I worked as hard as I could at the skill, not the fitness constantly kicking points on my own running with ball on beach and topped up my fitness levels. Any one who wants to make their mark as a forward must be able to take a score so I would suggest to you 63587614, every second day at least get a bag of balls and off to the pitch.Start with shots from 13mtr line and work out slowly to about 35mtrs and perfect this.
Funny I was a cnr forward when this happened. I was a regular on score sheet. I also went off and practiced a lot of free taking from the ground and this helped.
But as a few others said dont walk away just work hard and maybe ask manager for a bit of advice on the quiet.
I now look after teams and the main thing I want from lads is loyalty. The rest follows because the loyal show respect imo

EARMUFFS

Just my two cents..
AS a selector for a senior team my advice to players who feel aggrieved is turn up for training, review your goals(realistically) and get advice from other players/mentors/selectors that you trust or are happy will give you unbiased advice on your skills/ability.
The GAA is full of these stories and to be honest when i played I had a bad attitude towards being dropped like the majority of young players who believe they deserve better i decided that feck that whats the point easier to take a place on the b's,c's then try harder. It did me no good and was a lesson that i needed to learn for later years.
As most of the replies state all you can do is train, try and involve yourself more in matches (if you are picked at corner forward then show for every ball, in other words try and get yourself noticed as a team player). You have to realise that if the coach has said everyone is getting a go then thats your opportunity. If he and his team cant see your efforts then play your hardest for the seconds so the 2nd team manager picks you every time. Playing football is what you should want to do full stop. There are too many players happy to stand on the sideline for senior teams unwilling to line for the other teams which just means they are athletes instead of footballers.
Hope this helps!