Golden Eagle Found Dead

foxhunter

A link to the news story about a Golden Eagle found dead in Donegal last month .

http://news.eircom.net/breakingnews/general/15057798/

Trojan911

That's a shame. I saw an eagle in Kerry last week circling above us whilst out deer stalking. Didn't have the camera unfortunately.

No6

I've seen golden Eagles in France years ago, fantastic birds. I'm glad they have been reintroduced into Ireland, I hope they find who ever laid the poison.

Vegeta

Thought this was better suited here.

dodgyme

aparently there are 2 suspects.

Run_to_da_hills

I hope the Gardai do their work and catch the culprits.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/poisoning-of-eagle-probed-by-gardai-1659064.html

mallards

One of them flew over my ground in Tyrone one day when I was out shooting rabbits. Absolutely beautiful bird. It was getting mobbed at the time by crows. I hope they get who did it.

Mallards

jwshooter

its a pity to see a lovely bird like this kill .
a few questions have to be asked about there reintroduction .
there a huge bird that have to have a large territory not just the national park
personally i think there reintroduction was like most things in ireland el thought out .
i heard the rangers were shooting deer and leaving them on the hill for the birds but why should one species suffer to support another .
also the cost to the state from the time some one thought of the idea to date .in fact finding trips away, pay rolls ,garda time ,npws etc .
whats next wolf ,lynxs .
what is it all costing us taxpayers ,i would rather see my money going to look after the spices we all ready have .
there is just under 60 hectares in total in national parks in ireland do we have a say in it ?

Trotter

Is there a "reason" or a motivation behind an action like this? Why would someone not want these species to survive?

boneless

jwshooter wrote: »

its a pity to see a lovely bird like this kill .
a few questions have to be asked about there reintroduction .
there a huge bird that have to have a large territory not just the national park
personally i think there reintroduction was like most things in ireland el thought out .
i heard the rangers were shooting deer and leaving them on the hill for the birds but why should one species suffer to support another .
also the cost to the state from the time some one thought of the idea to date .in fact finding trips away, pay rolls ,garda time ,npws etc .
whats next wolf ,lynxs .
what is it all costing us taxpayers ,i would rather see my money going to look after the spices we all ready have .
there is just under 60 hectares in total in national parks in ireland do we have a say in it ?

I for one would love to see wolf being re-introduced. However, this and the other matters you raised in the post are not applicable to the spirit of the thread.

But to get back on topic, it is deplorable and despicible that such a thing should happen to a re-introduced and protected species.

It wasn't me!

Despicable. I hope the investigation is productive and action is taken. People need to be better aware of these species and whether the poisoning was malicious or not, it needs to be stopped. I do agree with jwshooter though with regard to ill-thought out actions with regard to reintroductions.

John Griffin

Best of luck to the Golden Eagle Trust and the NPWS staff in Donegal in securing a prosecution for this selfish cruel act of vandalism

It wasn't me! wrote: »

I do agree with jwshooter though with regard to ill-thought out actions with regard to reintroductions.

You could only call it an "ill- thought out action" if you actually knew the research and thought that went into the re-introduction, I seriously doubt that you or JW have any idea of the work that went into the re-introduction of the Golden Eagle, Sea Eagle and Red kite.
It is a damn sight better thought out than the introduction and movement of alien species of deer and wild boar in the last few years by so called conservationists and sportsmen. What guidelines were followed there?
If it was wolves controlling the deer instead of humans there would be plenty of food left for the young Eagles over the winter when they need to scavenge to supplement their diet. Who is more entitled or more in need of a feed of venison, the Eagle or the fat property developer in a posh restaurant? Who would you rather watch feeding on a haunch of venison?:)


The Golden Eagle Trust is a registered charity, feel free to donate.:)
http://www.goldeneagle.ie/

sorella

Utterly shameful.

I cannot remember where exactly, but I saw an article last year re farmers claiming that golden eagles were taking huge numbers of their lambs?

It was of course rebuffed.

But this happens re seals also; scapegoating; the real issue there is over-fishing. Yet seals are slaughtered.

There is actually a deer cull planned.

These beautiful birds are part of our heritage.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Trotter wrote: »

Is there a "reason" or a motivation behind an action like this? Why would someone not want these species to survive?

As someone currently involved in investigating the discovery of poisoned Buzzards in another part of the country I can tell you that the species killed may not have been, and probably was not, the species targeted. Birds of prey are often unintended victims of poisions laid to kill species such as Hooded Crows. It doesn't excuse the action but just puts another slant on it. There are clear rules regarding the laying of poison but unfortunately these are being flaunted all over the country. In this particular case the death of Eagles ensued, elsewhere it is other species who avail of carrion when available.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

jwshooter wrote: »

there a huge bird that have to have a large territory not just the national park
personally i think there reintroduction was like most things in ireland el thought out .
i heard the rangers were shooting deer and leaving them on the hill for the birds but why should one species suffer to support another .

Firstly, you need to inform yourself about the research and preparation that went into this project. Ill thought out it most certainly was not.
Also, the idea is not to restrict them to the National Park. That would be absurd! They were released in an area that could be monitored and controlled with the intention that they spead throughout the country.
Deer are culled in the park - it's called managing the resources of the park!

Vegeta

I am not trying to be difficult or stir sh1te but if the independent article is correct then 6 eagles have been found dead, due to poison, in the last 16 months.

Anyone know if this is true?

Was that planned for?

Very disheartening to see this happen.

boneless

Vegeta wrote: »

I am not trying to be difficult or stir sh1te but if the independent article is correct then 6 eagles have been found dead, due to poison, in the last 16 months.

Anyone know if this is true?

Was that planned for?

Very disheartening to see this happen.

The majority of the poisonings have been of the sea eagles released in Kerry. The papers may have been referring to them too.

Trojan911

boneless wrote: »

The majority of the poisonings have been of the sea eagles released in Kerry. The papers may have been referring to them too.

Talking to some farmers in Kerry recently about the eagles & their views were the eagles were no threat to their livestock & therefore the poisonings were not deliberately aimed at the eagles.

Whether they were double bluffing or not they didn't appear worried about them.

Rainbowsend

John Griffin wrote: »

Best of luck to the Golden Eagle Trust and the NPWS staff in Donegal in securing a prosecution for this selfish cruel act of vandalism


You could only call it an "ill- thought out action" if you actually knew the research and thought that went into the re-introduction, I seriously doubt that you or JW have any idea of the work that went into the re-introduction of the Golden Eagle, Sea Eagle and Red kite.
It is a damn sight better thought out than the introduction and movement of alien species of deer and wild boar in the last few years by so called conservationists and sportsmen. What guidelines were followed there?
If it was wolves controlling the deer instead of humans there would be plenty of food left for the young Eagles over the winter when they need to scavenge to supplement their diet. Who is more entitled or more in need of a feed of venison, the Eagle or the fat property developer in a posh restaurant? Who would you rather watch feeding on a haunch of venison?:)


The Golden Eagle Trust is a registered charity, feel free to donate.:)
http://www.goldeneagle.ie/

Here Here John well said.
There is no greater sight than seeing these magnificent birds in the skies of Ireland again, long may they prosper.

Morganna

How awful to poison these magnificent creatures .I too would love to see wolves reintroduced .

doctor evil

I can't see wolves being introduced - got enough of them in the form of builders and politicians!