Bass Drum Mics

spence101

I need a bass drum mic for the aul home studio and have been looking around for the best cost efficent model.

so far the shure beta52a and the AKG D 112 have stood out, has anyone had any recording experience with these?

But I also saw the T-Bone BD300 for under 50 euro on thomann which is great value and T bone is quite a good make.

Would I be better off shelling out the extra 100 euros on a shure or akg or should i go for the t bone, and any other bass drum mic suggestions?


ps, i'll mainly be recording sorta indie alternative tracks www.myspace.com/selflessgooddeeds

Savman

Defo pass on the Tbone and get the better mic, a hundred quid isn't a whole lot of money tbh.
I've been using the Beta 91 and have been more than satisfied with the results, YMMV.

ZV Yoda

spence101 wrote: »

I need a bass drum mic for the aul home studio and have been looking around for the best cost efficent model.

so far the shure beta52a and the AKG D 112 have stood out, has anyone had any recording experience with these?

But I also saw the T-Bone BD300 for under 50 euro on thomann www.myspace.com/selflessgooddeeds

As a drummer with a home set up, I was in the same boat a year ago. I went for the AKG D112 & haven't regretted it. It's one of the industry standards, sounds good & is very robust.

I'd recommend you get the best mics you can afford for the kick & snare first (snare = Shure SM57... another industry standard... only costs €100). After that, your overheads are next (lots of options, some very expensive!), followed by the toms (SM57s always a good bet).

I have an AKG D112 in front of the kick & SM57 inside the kick, SM57 on the snare, Rode NT5 matched pair for overheads... but I still have some TBones on the toms. They don't have any real presence, so I'll be upgrading those at some stage.
Also, go for 2nd hand mics for even better value. Lots of good deals out there at the minute... one of the benefits of the recession!

Brien

Im a big fan of the D112, it sounds great on a kick but i'l also use it on a bass amp every now and again

PaulBrewer

Even the best dynamic mic isn't a huge investment.

In the interests of sound AND long term value go for the best available, you'll still use it in 20 years.

A D112 is an industry standard - it was an 'updated' D12 which was the standard kick mic .

When the fashion changed to toppier kicks the D12 fell out of favour with some and AKG released the D112 as a replacement. I've seen it in every pro studio I've ever been in.

DamagedTrax

d112 outside coupled with a 57 inside is my standard kick set-up. it just works.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

d112 - cant go wrong - some people slate it as being boingy or retro sounding but they dont seem to know how to position mics .

SOS did a load of tests on mics inluding the d112 and its amazing the range of sounds you can get out of it by just placing it in differnt areas .

also two mics are nice , as stated , like a57 inside near the head for the click ( or at the back pointing at the beater ) and a d112 or shure or even a condenser out side the front head. - i like this combo but im too lazy anymore , so i just use the d112 .


just dont get an audix d6 - its awful . ( but is interesting on snares )

unclebill98

Try a Beta 91. You'll not be disapointed with the results. Far better than the d112.

studiorat

nobody find the D-112 too hard sounding? Mid rangey Like?

DamagedTrax

studiorat wrote: »

nobody find the D-112 too hard sounding? Mid rangey Like?

it can be a little dave. thats why i compliment it with the 57. i eq out a lot of the mids on the 112 and compensate with the 57.. plus the 57 has that little high end bump that catches the beater click nicely.

trackmixstudio

I like the d112 but much prefer the senheisser e602. It has more of a scooped sound and requires less eq in the mix. Due to its shape and the way it attaches directly to the stand it is way easier to position too. The d112 is very awkward the way the bottom sticks out to fit in a stand.
I normally use e602 in and neumann tlm103 out.

PaulBrewer

trackmixstudio wrote: »

I like the d112 but much prefer the senheisser e602. It has more of a scooped sound and requires less eq in the mix. Due to its shape and the way it attaches directly to the stand it is way easier to position too. The d112 is very awkward the way the bottom sticks out to fit in a stand.
I normally use e602 in and neumann tlm103 out.

The 602 is a great tool too ok.

DamagedTrax

michael, for metal do you find a plastic beater suffiucient or would you tape something to the head to get more click?

PaulBrewer

Does anyone use the NS10 cone as a Mic trick?

DamagedTrax

ive seen videos of it but i dont know anyone with a set of ns10's that would take them apart!

is it any good? what kind of tone?

PaulBrewer

Well I guess any driver will do - We use a NS10 driver. it's pure lowend, real sub ..... not too sure how much of it makes the mix though!

DamagedTrax

how do you mount it securly. i would imagine being that close to the click and not having a secure stand could be problematic?

PaulBrewer

Just one corner of the speaker attached to a mic stand close to front head

trackmixstudio

DamagedTrax wrote: »

michael, for metal do you find a plastic beater suffiucient or would you tape something to the head to get more click?

Tama iron cobra power glide with wood beaters does the trick.
The cam on the cobra is designed to throw the beater at the head at the of its travel and the wooden beater gives loads of attack and thud.