Dosent require NCT or DOE

xabi

I have been looking at a few Astra Vans recently and was told by one seller that they dont require NCT or DOE as they are in between a car and a van - this is new to me, can someone confirm or deny this?

X.

Drummerboy08

Cars need NCT's.

Vans need DOE's.

As far as im aware, there are no exeptions to the rule. Who ever told you that is a little spoofer.....:D

SAABMAN

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Cars need NCT's.

Vans need DOE's.

As far as im aware, there are no exeptions to the rule. Who ever told you that is a little spoofer.....:D

Not entirely true! We've got an S-Cargo and it has never been tested; DOE or NCT. Don't know what the exact rule is for other vans, but they have both told us that it doesn't need a test.

zapata

Caravans don't need to be tested AFAIK....:D

Drummerboy08

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Cars need NCT's.

Vans need DOE's.

As far as im aware, there are no exeptions to the rule. Who ever told you that is a little spoofer.....:D

There is a loop hole alright. I was doing it with a Fiesta van a while back. If you tax it private it is not required to do the doe and as its a van it is not required to do the nct.

Edit: As far as I know this can be done with any carvan but its not worth doing on most as the cost of taxing it privately would be much more than taxing it commercially unless of course there would be large expense to get it through the doe, it works well for small engined vans though as the private tax is about the same as commercial tax.

BoardsRanger

Miah Short Honeysuckle wrote: »

There is a loop hole alright. I was doing it with a Fiesta van a while back. If you tax it private it is not required to do the doe and as its a van it is not required to do the nct.

I also did this with a fiesta van some 4 or 5 years ago. There is a loop hole there. Only problem is, most Guards dont know about it so when stopped at a checkpoint, it might be an idea to have a letter or some proof that you are exempt from both.

Mr Tim Buktoo

my last car was a starlet carvan and didnt need an NCT. bit stupid really.

xabi

So thats what he's doing, how much is Commercial Tax? Is it based on engine size?

X.

Drummerboy08

Haha, you learn something new every day!

I dont understand how it works tho, if you pay private tax then why would you not require an NCT test?

Would it be worth the extra motor tax to get away with the DOE's?

Darragh29

xabi wrote: »

I have been looking at a few Astra Vans recently and was told by one seller that they dont require NCT or DOE as they are in between a car and a van - this is new to me, can someone confirm or deny this?

X.

I think someone is trying to pull a fast one on you! It's one or the other, either an NCT or a DOE. Sometimes when you are registering the vehicle, you have a choice which way to do with regard to registration. For example I used to have a Peugeot 206 HDi van and when I went to register it, the girl in the tax office asked me did I want to register it as a private car or a van and I chose a car.

You can't say neither and not hve to NCT or DOE the car, anyone who is trying to tell you this is talking out of their arse!

Darragh29

Miah Short Honeysuckle wrote: »

There is a loop hole alright. I was doing it with a Fiesta van a while back. If you tax it private it is not required to do the doe and as its a van it is not required to do the nct.

Edit: As far as I know this can be done with any carvan but its not worth doing on most as the cost of taxing it privately would be much more than taxing it commercially unless of course there would be large expense to get it through the doe, it works well for small engined vans though as the private tax is about the same as commercial tax.

I don't know of any such loophole. It has to be registered as something, either a private car (which will require an NCT) or a light commercial van (which will require a DOE).

Darragh29

Darragh29 wrote: »

I don't know of any such loophole. It has to be registered as something, either a private car (which will require an NCT) or a light commercial van (which will require a DOE).

Its been a few years now since I had the van but if I remember correctly it was registered as a commercial but I(and the previous owners) were taxing it privately. Therefore as its taxed privately the doe does not apply and as its registered as a commercial it cannot be nct'd. There were a lot of people doing this with fiesta vans when I was doing it and they all had the same story from separate sources.

I bought the van of a main dealer(not ford) my father deals with and he also pointed out to me that it did not need an nct or doe.

Edit: of course this loop hole could have closed since etc, but as far as I know at the time this loop hole existed.

Seth Brundle

You may need to clarify (preferably in writing) if your insurance require one or the other though.

Saab Ed

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Cars need NCT's.

Vans need DOE's.

As far as im aware, there are no exeptions to the rule. Who ever told you that is a little spoofer.....:D

There was one .....Recovery trucks and mobile workshops didnt need a DOE but they closed that last year or maybe even 2007, I cant remember.

The car van loophole thing I think stems from the ninties when you could Tax a car van one way and insure it another. It ment that for younger drivers who had no money they could insure a van privately and tax it as a van which was cheaper. Remember all the tarted up car vans of the nineties i.e fiesta flair van, R19 supervan etc. Back then there was no NCT, just an engineers report when it was 10 years old. Either way today if its taxed as a car then it needs a NCT test aged 4 and if its taxed a van then it needs a DOE every year.

SAABMAN

I think that in the case of our van they really didn't know what it was. And they were not going to make a special rule when there were only supposed to be 4 of them at the time.
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Mycroft H

xabi wrote: »

So thats what he's doing, how much is Commercial Tax? Is it based on engine size?

X.

No its based on unladen van weight. Its €277 for one year for a van less them 3tons