Driver CPC Course

CoachDriver

Obligatory Driver CPC training

Are we all aware that from September 2008, all bus drivers must have a Driver CPC qualification, which involves existing drivers doing one day a year of refresher training in safe industry practices.

The RSA has not published the Syllabus and the first training centres are only approved since 3 weeks.

Like many of the problems we face at the minute I get the impression that the roll out of the Driver's CPC is an unmitigated disaster all round, not just in Ireland. Training programmes have yet to be finalised yet all professional bus drivers must have the first module completed by September!

Some CPC Training Centre are butting dates out, how can they, they have not got the Syllabus. We will get course cancellation, rescheduling, a disaster.

HydeRoad

Do you realise that some training centres are advertising this at €195???

The very same training in the UK costs £25 stg.

Just another blatant scandal in rip off Ireland.

convert

It's Ireland.
Nothing works properly.
And to make matters worse somebody has an idea, it's pushed (rushed!) through on grounds of health and safety, it's made compulsory and exorbitant fees are charged to those who have to take the course.

Matamoros

Has anyone done the CPC driving and practical tests, doing mine soon, any info would be appreciated.

Wishbone Ash

Is there a seperate one for trucks (when it comes in). Do I need to do both?

EDIT: Just to clarify - I've had the licences for many years.

CoachDriver

HydeRoad wrote: »

The very same training in the UK costs £25 stg.

can you give me the contact details will book it, I found prices from £ 115 to £ 160 Stg, and now convert this into Euro

CoachDriver

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Is there a seperate one for trucks (when it comes in). Do I need to do both?

EDIT: Just to clarify - I've had the licences for many years.

Truck will start 10 Sept 2009, only module 5 is different. go to
www.drivercpc.ie

CoachDriver

Matamoros wrote: »

Has anyone done the CPC driving and practical tests, doing mine soon, any info would be appreciated.

are you talking the driver cpc (periodic training) or the driving license with the cpc attached, se info at www.drivercpc.ie

RadioCity

As this seems to be a Europe wide issue, are you restricted as to which country you do it in?

Del2005

HydeRoad wrote: »

Do you realise that some training centres are advertising this at €195???

The very same training in the UK costs £25 stg.

Just another blatant scandal in rip off Ireland.

CoachDriver wrote: »

can you give me the contact details will book it, I found prices from £ 115 to £ 160 Stg, and now convert this into Euro

RadioCity wrote: »

As this seems to be a Europe wide issue, are you restricted as to which country you do it in?

Was thinking of doing the UK route if HydeRoad is correct on prices, but then saw this on the CPC site. Looks like we have to do it here and you know we'll be ripped off:mad: At least you only have to do it once if you have a LPSV and HGV licence, if it was an Irish idea we'd have to do it twice.

2.5 Drivers with HGV/LPSV licence from other countries
Periodic Training must be completed in the country of employment or residence. Drivers from other countries, who are based in the Ireland, can undertake Periodic Training in the Ireland if residing here for longer than 6 months in a calendar year. Training completed in another EU state will count towards Periodic Training in the Ireland.

CoachDriver

Del2005 wrote: »

..... at least you only have to do it once if you have a LPSV and HGV licence, if it was an Irish idea we'd have to do it twice.

once every year for the rest of your drivers live, I only have 20 years to go.

has anybody any experience with any of the companies, do we have a list of companies approved for the Driver CPC courses.
We will, should create a professional driver association to have a word to say to the RSA, all other EU countries have a driver association.
In other countries you can do your Driver CPC in one go, this would suit me, once ever 5 years 35 hrs. The killer is the fee, 200 x 5, I assume, we would get it for 700 Euro. Would be a saving of 70 Euro per year. Only a driver assoc. will be able to bring this through.

RadioCity

In my company we would have had awayday courses from time to time over the years.

As it turns out now, each driver will have to go for one day a year, well, forever.

Any drivers recently employed have already had to study for it as part of their licence, while those already employed "aquired" it.

That said, it all paid for by the company (thankfully).:)

CoachDriver

RadioCity wrote: »

Any drivers recently employed have already had to study for it as part of their licence, while those already employed "aquired" it.

That said, it all paid for by the company (thankfully).:)

RadioCity are you a pro driver?

RadioCity

Yes I am a pro driver.

CoachDriver

RadioCity wrote: »

Yes I am a pro driver.

and you are a bus/coach or truck driver and you driver national or international and you driver for xx years.

all this questions - why?

i am strongly thinking of setting up a pro driver assoc. for both truck and bus/coach drivers. together we would have something to say, on your own you are lost.

I used to driver coaches all over Europe in the summer and airport to resort transport in the winter for 15 years. I did the driver cpc in 1980 in Europe, and now I will have to sit again 7 hrs in a class room to keep my driving up, for the 5-10 days a year i am driving now. Yes a partimer.

RadioCity

Bus driver, international if you include travelling over the Northern Ireland frontier.:D Ive been doing it now for 8 years.

benjy10

newby here
can anyone tell me iam a self employed with a 6.2 tonne gvw truck which i use to move my own gear with scaffolding ladders small mini digger etc do i need a cpc card
i might use the truck one day a week i have a c1 licence for the last 10 plus years
HELP!!!!

AlekSmart

benjy10 wrote: »

Newby here
can anyone tell me iam a self employed with a 6.2 tonne gvw truck which i use to move my own gear with scaffolding ladders small mini digger etc do i need a cpc card
I might use the truck one day a week i have a c1 licence for the last 10 plus years
HELP!!!!

On the face of it Benjy10,you do NOT require a Drivers Card if you continue to drive within the scope you describe here,ie: the Driving element of your work is NOT the primary function.

http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Professional-Drivers/Driver-Hours/Getting-your-CPC/

Exemptions

Driver CPC certification is not required for drivers of vehicles used:

For non-commercial purposes, eg driving as a volunteer; drivers of emergency or rescue vehicles
For a registered RSA approved Driving Instructors who are giving driving instruction
In the course of someone’s work, provided that driving the vehicle is not the driver’s principal occupation, eg, a plumber using a light truck to transport their materials.
Vehicles with a maximum speed not exceeding 45 km/h

However,I would counsel a little caution,as these things can get a bit fluid,particularly on the side of the road.

Always ensure you have some proof that you are a an actual Butcher,Baker or Candlestick Maker about your person if (when) stopped by Gardai/RSA Inspectors.

One element to be aware of is that with DCPC now actually in place,the "Authorities" are significantly increasing their checking activities (It could be argued that this is far easier than confronting rabid dangerous illegality amongst Dublin's Taxi Industry ),so be prepared for a grilling !

benjy10

thanks alex for reply hope your right i dont use the truck that much
i did email the cpc@rsa.ie last week and they say i do sod em have emailed them back with link you posted for a second will keep you up dated
thanks again alex

Exemptions

Driver CPC certification is not required for drivers of vehicles used:

For non-commercial purposes, eg driving as a volunteer; drivers of emergency or rescue vehicles
For a registered RSA approved Driving Instructors who are giving driving instruction
In the course of someone’s work, provided that driving the vehicle is not the driver’s principal occupation, eg, a plumber using a light truck to transport their materials.
Vehicles with a maximum speed not exceeding 45 km/h