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Garda wont do anything (my 7 year old son assaulted by a 38 year old man please help)

  • 27-02-2009 3:11pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 9


    Last night my seven year old son was punched in the back of the head by a neighbour who is 38 years old.My son and his friend were playing knocking at peoples doors and running off>(as you do we have all done it)the man in question grabbed my 7 year old son punched him in the back of the head.Needless to say my son was distraught he wet his pants he was so afraid, oh and I had to pick him up from school(teacher called me he was so upset).I called the Gards who said they would investigate the situation and to call them at 10 am this morning which I did and suprise suprise there not evan working today.This is the third time I have gone to the Gards about people on the road abuseing my son and not once have they helped.Last year the man five doors down drink driving knocked my son down off his bike and drove off of course we called the Gards they went down to the man and came back up to us to tell me that he was a nice man and he has a nice house so were not investigateing further.Soon after that the 40 odd year old woman next door kicked him in the back we called the Gards and surprise suprise they done nothing.

    PLEASE HELP I dont know what to do about the latest incident and I am seriously considering going over there with a base ball bat and sorting it myself.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Your son is very unlucky with the neighbours, isn't he....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    If you want the Gardai to do something and if you think that they are reluctant to take action, then put your complaint in writing and hand it in to them, asking them to take action/investigate. Keep a copy.

    If you get no result, send a copy of your letter to the local superintendent.

    You should then get a result.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Samson


    Given the alleged incidents you outline above, it sounds to me that either a high proportion of your neighbours are very short tempered or you are not in sufficient control of your child.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Philie


    Believe me I am in control of my son would you hit a seven year old for knocking at your door.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭andrewh5


    Samson wrote: »
    Given the alleged incidents you outline above, it sounds to me that either a high proportion of your neighbours are very short tempered or you are not in sufficient control of your child.

    Most likely the latter. What sensible parent thinks it is normal acceptable behaviour for a child to knock on doors and run off? My children would have had hell off me if they had done it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Philie


    Oh forgot to mention the woman that kicked jim spent a year in lomans.The 58 year old who knocked him down said he didnt even know he done it obviously because he was drunk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    Philie wrote: »
    Believe me I am in control of my son would you hit a seven year old for knocking at your door.

    That depends on the temperment of the house owner, and how many times the act had been perpetrated. If the child had been warned several times and was continuing - i'd probably douse him in a bucket of ice cold water - wouldn't hit him though.. but some people are a lot more violent - he shouldn't be knocking on doors in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    Hes 7 years old. When i was that age i wasnt running around disturbing neighbours. Perhaps you should keep a closer eye on the youth. Im not defending the man who hit your child, because that WAS wrong... but maybe its not the first, second, third, etc etc time your child has knocked and ran away...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Philie


    As I allways say if they call into me I will sort it out with punishments but you dont hit children no matter what at the end of the day there kids and thats what kids do.I know I did when I was a kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭am i bovvered


    Philie wrote: »
    Soon after that the 40 odd year old woman next door kicked him in the back we called the Gards and surprise suprise they done nothing.

    Why??? very strange behavior for a 40 year old woman


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Im sorry im not buying any of this. You are honestly telling us that the Gardai will not look into any of this. I don't believe you im sorry physical abuse on children is taken very seriously by the Gardai no matter how out of control the kid is(not implying yours is just making a statement). I put this to my friend just now who is a Gaurd and he said they would definitely send someone down to at least talk to you or the neighbors involved. There has to be more behind this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    your probably one of these people who try to claim/sue over anything. im not replying anymore because il get banned for what im really thinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Samson wrote: »
    Given the alleged incidents you outline above, it sounds to me that either a high proportion of your neighbours are very short tempered or you are not in sufficient control of your child.
    Jeez you've got some great observational skillz...

    Why not post something helpful to the parent like what he/she can do about it, instead of questioning the parental skills???
    your probably one of these people who try to claim/sue over anything. im not replying anymore because il get banned for what im really thinking.
    Stupidity alone is not a bannable offence, if that's what you mean.

    To the original poster: I'm not sure if the Garda Ombudsman is of much use in situations like these, but if you do feel like you have a valid complaint about the gardaí then they'd be a useful bunch to talk to.

    The incident you mentioned above is not that big a deal as you described it, I've been given a clout by adults in my time and it hasn't damaged me that much:) but seriously, the other 2 incidents would need following up on.

    And I do find it hard to believe the guards would do nothing over knocking down a child while drink driving... And why would some woman want to kick a child in the back?? Could you give us more background into these stories please?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Philie


    Believe me I have had the anti social unit from the council call into the neighbours and they have been warned that they will be evicted the woman who hit my son is the friend of the man's wife who hit him last night come on people he is 7.And yes all the neighbours are nuts I have lived there four years and I myself have been targeted.I had 6 men climb over my back wall to beat me up I have been surrounded in my own home by gangs of people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Trojan911


    Philie wrote: »
    Last night my seven year old son was punched in the back of the head by a neighbour who is 38 years old.My son and his friend were playing knocking at peoples doors and running off>(as you do we have all done it)the man in question grabbed my 7 year old son punched him in the back of the head.Needless to say my son was distraught he wet his pants he was so afraid, oh and I had to pick him up from school(teacher called me he was so upset).I called the Gards who said they would investigate the situation and to call them at 10 am this morning which I did and suprise suprise there not evan working today.This is the third time I have gone to the Gards about people on the road abuseing my son and not once have they helped.Last year the man five doors down drink driving knocked my son down off his bike and drove off of course we called the Gards they went down to the man and came back up to us to tell me that he was a nice man and he has a nice house so were not investigateing further.Soon after that the 40 odd year old woman next door kicked him in the back we called the Gards and surprise suprise they done nothing.

    PLEASE HELP I dont know what to do about the latest incident and I am seriously considering going over there with a base ball bat and sorting it myself.

    You come across as a professional victim to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Philie


    Yes they did come and talk to us and that is it nothing else happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Ruen


    andrewh5 wrote: »
    Most likely the latter. What sensible parent thinks it is normal acceptable behaviour for a child to knock on doors and run off? My children would have had hell off me if they had done it.
    It's hardly criminal behaviour:rolleyes:, he's 7 years old so lets give him a pass for doing what most people done when they were kids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Jesus lads, are ye not being a bit unfair on the OP?

    Regardless of the child - he's only 7 - there is no excuse to hit a child. Boys will be boys, i remember knocking the nieghbours doors and running off too.

    Either way, there is no excuse for hitting a child, and the guards should be investigating this.

    One thing i would be worried about OP, you mention that your son has been "abused" three times by people along your road. What were the circumstances of these incidents? Why did they hit your son? This implies to me that your child has a "history" of annoying the neighbors, i may be wrong tho.

    I hope you get it sorted out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Philie


    The man that was drink driving.When the guards got mto the house he was not in the car hence no action taken.The woman i have had the anti social unit out to here 6 times and believe me we are not the only ones.the people who lived there befor us left because of them but there is no way in hell i am leaving my home for scum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭cushtac


    Take it to the Ombudsman if you're not happy with how the Gardaí handled it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭petergdub


    I am plagued by these little b*stards myself in my estate - absolutely no respect for other adults.
    They do their nicknacks when I'm in the middle of changing the baby's nappy etc
    It is so frustrating.
    I would love to do what your neighbour did just to feel the pleasure of connecting with one of the little f*ckers heads.

    > Last night my seven year old son was punched in the back of the head by a neighbour > who is 38 years old.

    Unfortunately it is illegal.
    What you neighbours did was very wrong - They should have punched you in the back of the head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Philie


    People I am not stupid we have always said if we told anyone what we have been threw that people would think its made up.I am not replying to any more comments as I am sorry I started this looks like the only course of action is to take the law into your own hands.I'll give the gurds till Monday if nothing happens i'll sort this out myself something I didnt want to do but as no one has advice seems to me sorting it out myself is the best course of action and the only way something will be done.


  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Philie wrote: »
    Last night my seven year old son was punched in the back of the head by a neighbour who is 38 years old.My son and his friend were playing knocking at peoples doors and running off>(as you do we have all done it)the man in question grabbed my 7 year old son punched him in the back of the head.Needless to say my son was distraught he wet his pants he was so afraid, oh and I had to pick him up from school(teacher called me he was so upset).I called the Gards who said they would investigate the situation and to call them at 10 am this morning which I did and suprise suprise there not evan working today.This is the third time I have gone to the Gards about people on the road abuseing my son and not once have they helped.Last year the man five doors down drink driving knocked my son down off his bike and drove off of course we called the Gards they went down to the man and came back up to us to tell me that he was a nice man and he has a nice house so were not investigateing further.Soon after that the 40 odd year old woman next door kicked him in the back we called the Gards and surprise suprise they done nothing.

    PLEASE HELP I dont know what to do about the latest incident and I am seriously considering going over there with a base ball bat and sorting it myself.

    I suggest he start wearing diapers.That way he won't embarass himself in school anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    Philie wrote: »
    People I am not stupid we have always said if we told anyone what we have been threw that people would think its made up.I am not replying to any more comments as I am sorry I started this looks like the only course of action is to take the law into your own hands.I'll give the gurds till Monday if nothing happens i'll sort this out myself something I didnt want to do but as no one has advice seems to me sorting it out myself is the best course of action and the only way something will be done.


    Is it a good example to show your son that the only way to deal with this behaviour is to take the law into your own hands?




    If you are really serious about doing something, I would suggest what The Mustard has posted below because I can't see anyone here given you any other kind of advice.
    If you want the Gardai to do something and if you think that they are reluctant to take action, then put your complaint in writing and hand it in to them, asking them to take action/investigate. Keep a copy.

    If you get no result, send a copy of your letter to the local superintendent.

    You should then get a result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭andrewh5


    Philie wrote: »
    The man that was drink driving.When the guards got mto the house he was not in the car hence no action taken.

    Sorry I don't believe that one bit. They have ways of knowing if the car has been recently driven and have the powers to breathalyse the man in his house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Trojan911


    Philie wrote: »
    looks like the only course of action is to take the law into your own hands.I'll give the gurds till Monday if nothing happens i'll sort this out myself something I didnt want to do but as no one has advice seems to me sorting it out myself is the best course of action and the only way something will be done.

    Philie wrote: »
    and I am seriously considering going over there with a base ball bat and sorting it myself.

    Philie wrote: »
    People I am not stupid

    *cough*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Was it last night? Or was he in school? Your obvious lack of respect for anyone in authority, has been passed on to your little brat offspring. What a load of rubbish this post was. Maybe if he was spending his time doing something constructive he would be able to spell better than the OP can. If there is any truth in this, I would say poor little Johnny is a compulsive liar, anti-social little runt who deserved a clip round the ear. The Gardaí have responded to earlier incidents and are probably well aware that they are having their time wasted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Tristram


    (Un)Natural justice? Have to agree with sentiments of some the above posters. Maybe your kid is spending too much time on the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    This thread has taken a very unseemly direction, with personal abuse of the OP by a number of posters not seen here before.


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