Ding! Beeeeeep!

Victor

On some modern Dublin Bus vehicles if you press the bell push, it will "Ding!", the next push will get a "Beeeeeep!", subsequent pushes get silence (to stop the bell ringing 50 times) - what are the rules here? Does it only beep if it is pressed upstairs or if it is hte second person pushing? I think the brand new buses have "DONG!!"


Image - inside the bell push.

KC61

Victor wrote: »

On some modern Dublin Bus vehicles if you press the bell push, it will "Ding!", the next push will get a "Beeeeeep!", subsequent pushes get silence (to stop the bell ringing 50 times) - what are the rules here? Does it only beep if it is pressed upstairs or if it is hte second person pushing? I think the brand new buses have "DONG!!"


Image - inside the bell push.

Two tones for someone pressing the button downstairs (DING) or upstairs (Beeeeep!), so that the driver is aware that someone is coming down the stairs.

There is a third tone for the disabled/buggy seat area.

Victor

There is a third tone for the disabled/buggy seat area.

Yeah, I pressed that once (I was sitting in the fold down seat with some shopping) in error and it frightened me.

meanmachine3

Victor wrote: »

Yeah, I pressed that once (I was sitting in the fold down seat with some shopping) in error and it frightened me.

the one that sounds like a siren . T.B.H. it actually works quite well, the biggest advantage is that on the AX's ,VT's and possibly some of the AV's a little orange light shows on our dashboard when the bell is pressed. so even though we mightn't hear the buzzer or alarm i always check the dash when approaching stops.

Cookie_Monster

meanmachine3 wrote: »

the one that sounds like a siren . T.B.H. it actually works quite well, the biggest advantage is that on the AX's ,VT's and possibly some of the AV's a little orange light shows on our dashboard when the bell is pressed. so even though we mightn't hear the buzzer or alarm i always check the dash when approaching stops.

That's useful, wonder why only the newer busses have that, surely it would have been a good idea from day one.

Since we're talking about bus noises, anyone know why the indicators are so loud? You can hear them pretty much anywhere on the bus, is this intentional so people are aware (even subconsiously) that the bus is about to make a manouver.

I like that sound to, chunky solid sound it is.

meanmachine3

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

That's useful, wonder why only the newer busses have that, surely it would have been a good idea from day one.

Since we're talking about bus noises, anyone know why the indicators are so loud? You can hear them pretty much anywhere on the bus, is this intentional so people are aware (even subconsiously) that the bus is about to make a manouver.

I like that sound to, chunk solid sound it is.

probably because plain clothes ****er can put a big fat juicy X/3 (i cant remmber which of those they use) beside the box for indicators( pulling in and moving of safely):mad:

Cookie_Monster

meanmachine3 wrote: »

probably because plain clothes ****er can put a big fat juicy X/3 (i cant remmber which of those they use) beside the box for indicators( pulling in and moving of safely):mad:

Proper order.

That said I find that busses, more than any other vehicle type, use their indicators frequently and properly:)

Red Alert

I think they initially put the beeper on the indicators because the KD's didn't self-cancel the indicators.

Sponge Bob

'De Members' of the NBRU took a few juicy court cases some time back over deafness 'caused' by bells on buses .

Bit like a carpenter suing Stanley who made his hammer but reasonableness and the NBRU are not bedfellows.

rx8

Red Alert wrote: »

I think they initially put the beeper on the indicators because the KD's didn't self-cancel the indicators.

Ah the old KD......great memories of booting it to Blessington and then wondering why if seemed so foggy on the way back......:D

i think those indicators beeped to keep the driver from falling asleep on the bouncy seat!:rolleyes:

bmaxi

I remember in the old R and RA type buses, drivers would put a wad of paper into the bell to tone it down a bit. F**king things were so loud, if there was a long break between stops they'd frighten the sh*t out of you.

MOH

I was told before by a driver who didn't stop after I pushed the bell that "that bell's not very loud, you have to push it quite hard". Which seems a bit daft given that I had no way of telling from upstairs how loud it sounded. Plus I don't really believe that how hard I hit one of the bell pushes affects how loud the bell sounds (does it?).

zagmund

The really old ones used to have a cord you pulled which mechanically ding'd the bell, so in that case the harder you puller, the louder the ding. I don't think that applies these days though - I'm sure the push button is just a switch which opens/closes a circuit which is enough to cause the bell to ding or the beeper to beep. So pushing it harder isn't likely to do anything. It might hurt your finger a little more I guess.

z

bmaxi

zagmund wrote: »

The really old ones used to have a cord you pulled which mechanically ding'd the bell, so in that case the harder you puller, the louder the ding. I don't think that applies these days though - I'm sure the push button is just a switch which opens/closes a circuit which is enough to cause the bell to ding or the beeper to beep. So pushing it harder isn't likely to do anything. It might hurt your finger a little more I guess.

z

I can't remember those in Dublin but I do remember them in Belfast and Liverpool, some conductors would tie a length of string to the rope so they could ring the bell from upstairs. Buses in Dublin had a brass plunger which the conductor would punch, I think it worked on the same principle as a bicycle pump.

Carawaystick

I thought older busses had pneumatic bells, like the bells on USian petrol stations

bmaxi

Carawaystick wrote: »

I thought older busses had pneumatic bells, like the bells on USian petrol stations

That's what I was talking about in the post above, you hit a plunger and that operated a piston.