Warning to new rider in Park to-day

Sean02 · 24-02-2009 10:10pm #1

By chance the this very good and I guess newbe cyclist ( 4.20 Farmleigh towards castleknock road) reads this thread a word of warning; NEVER PASS ANOTHER CYCLIST ON THE INSIDE WITHOUT WARNING.

blorg · 24-02-2009 10:12pm

If you warn them that gives them a chance to block you. We are talking commuter racing here, right?

tunney · 24-02-2009 10:26pm

Sean02 wrote: »

By chance the this very good and I guess newbe cyclist ( 4.20 Farmleigh towards castleknock road) reads this thread a word of warning; NEVER PASS ANOTHER CYCLIST ON THE INSIDE WITHOUT WARNING.

The question that I would ask was how were you positioning yourself on the road that left so much room that someone could pass you on the inside. Perhaps you should position yourself better.

steinone · 24-02-2009 10:41pm

tunney wrote: »

The question that I would ask was how were you positioning yourself on the road that left so much room that someone could pass you on the inside. Perhaps you should position yourself better.

If need be you can cycle on the very outside of the lane, it is actually better to cycle a bit out from the kerb, there are many good reasons for it.
Most of the time I cycle you could fit someone on my inside.

Húrin · 24-02-2009 10:48pm

why not just say these things to the person when on the road?

Gavin · 24-02-2009 11:12pm

Húrin wrote: »

why not just say these things to the person when on the road?

Saying things in the heat of the moment tends to not work very well.

Sean02 · 25-02-2009 8:24pm

Blorg perhaps this guy thought he was, as I said he was either ignorant of basic cycling rules or a proper dope. Tunney, half a meter from kerb leaving five mtrs to righthand side. What a stupid assumpsion "Perhaps you should.....". Steinone theres no cycle lane on Farmleigh Rd. Hurin Gavin answered your comment. At the end of the day the outcome could easily have left this dope sprawling safely on the grass and another boardie suggesting another ghost bike.

steinone · 25-02-2009 8:42pm

Sean02 wrote: »

Steinone theres no cycle lane on Farmleigh Rd.

OOh no I meant just the lane of the road in general, saying it is ok to cycle on the very outside of it if you need/want to.

blorg · 25-02-2009 9:04pm

If there was plenty of room the right side of you and you weren't blocking on that side it's pretty inexcusable all right, I was being somewhat facetious in my original comment. Good idea to shout a warning always on the inside, or indeed on the outside if the person you are passing looks a bit random and there isn't a lot of room.

BostonB · 25-02-2009 11:02pm

Sean02 wrote: »

Blorg perhaps this guy thought he was, as I said he was either ignorant of basic cycling rules or a proper dope. Tunney, half a meter from kerb leaving five mtrs to righthand side. What a stupid assumpsion "Perhaps you should.....". Steinone theres no cycle lane on Farmleigh Rd. Hurin Gavin answered your comment. At the end of the day the outcome could easily have left this dope sprawling safely on the grass and another boardie suggesting another ghost bike.

Er.. Sorry what do you mean about the ghost bike?

Thats a very quiet lane cul de sac, very rarely would you see a car on it. Why would someone pass you on the left anyway? The road surface isn't great in parts, I generally keep well out, almost in the center and only move in if a car or motor bikes comes past. Its also a slight climb and most people don't go up it very quick. I find it a slow drag myself, not being very fit.

Alanstrainor · 25-02-2009 11:08pm

I've had this happen to me, different location, different circumstances, but non the less. I was traveling on a road with zero cycle lane, so i was positioned to the left of the road, not on the curb mind, but not a million miles from it. I had slowed as fatigue was catching up with me, next thing i notice is a wheel in on my left side to the rear, in between my rear wheel and the curb! Some nutter had positioned himself there, with no intention of even passing me, he was quite happy there! Needless to say i gave him a piece of my mind!

72hundred · 25-02-2009 11:20pm

Does anyone else here follow the etiquette of keeping to the left on the Phoenix Park cycle lanes to allow faster cyclists to over take on the right?

Had a few wobblers on MTB's all over it today, mostly on the right, and ended up overtaking on the left hand side :eek:! Shameless I know!

The tax man · 25-02-2009 11:27pm

Alanstrainor wrote: »

next thing i notice is a wheel in on my left side to the rear, in between my rear wheel and the curb! Some nutter had positioned himself there, with no intention of even passing me, he was quite happy there!

Bad case of extreme wheel sucking.

BostonB · 26-02-2009 12:35am

72hundred wrote: »

Does anyone else here follow the etiquette of keeping to the left on the Phoenix Park cycle lanes to allow faster cyclists to over take on the right?

Had a few wobblers on MTB's all over it today, mostly on the right, and ended up overtaking on the left hand side :eek:! Shameless I know!

Of course you rang your bell to let them know you were passing through!

. Most people cycling at speed tend to use the road. Don't blame them, as theres usually people jogging and walking on the cycle path in the park, and at night, you barely seem them. Most have no lights, and wear dark clothes.

NeilMcEoigheann · 26-02-2009 12:45am

BostonB wrote: »

Of course you rang your bell to let them know you were passing through! .

i hate bells... there just far to cheerful, pedestrians just say "oh look a cyclist how quaint" and drivers are just like "did you hear something?"

Gavin · 26-02-2009 7:23am

Have to agree with that. Used a bell in town for around a year. Useless.

72hundred · 26-02-2009 10:21am

BostonB wrote: »

Of course you rang your bell to let them know you were passing through! . Most people cycling at speed tend to use the road. Don't blame them, as theres usually people jogging and walking on the cycle path in the park, and at night, you barely seem them. Most have no lights, and wear dark clothes.

No bell on the bike, pretty unless as others have pointed out. Usually just shout "bike" when about 10 yards behind 'em. Works fine.

As for at night I've a TK11 to deal with people on the cyclepath

! The direct beam on high setting is good a picking out people even in black clothing, also its so bright, there's no need to call ahead, ppl always get the message some how

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EDIT: Was thinking of getting an AirZound horn, but didn't in the end for two reasons; 1) Its yet another thing that has to be taken off the bike and carried if in town and 2) won't fit in the bottle cage because Kryptonite U-lock takes up most of the space.

souter · 26-02-2009 12:26pm

Apologies for thread hijack, but the other day I was coming home along Griffith Ave, making the right into Philipsburgh. You need a bit of speed to make the median through gaps in the traffic, as I checked over my shoulder there was a bike on my wheel. So I held out my right arm signal for a second longer than usual then moved right. As yer man passed me he was all lyrca'd up and on a specialized langster. Seeing I was on a tricross I thought I'd get some acknowledgement, but from what I could see of his face he didn't look overly happy, though he may just have been suffering from keeping up with my incendiary pace.
Should I have shouted "right turn" as well as signal? In retrospect probably would have been better safe than sorry.

MadHatter · 26-02-2009 3:19pm

I can feel the OP's pain on this. I was taken clean out of it on the quays last year by some idiot cyclist who tried to undertake me at speed. I was sent sprawling on the road, but somehow this idiot manage to stay upright, probably down to the momentum he had at impact.

After I peeled myself off the ground I asked the idiot what exactly he thought he was doing. The idiot defended himself by saying it was my fault because I moved to the left. :rolleyes:. I'm sure I did move left...about 4 inches maybe. But that was enough to close off the idiot's route between me and the kerb. The idiot then scarpered before we could discuss further. My chain had come off in the process so any chance to catch the idiot and continue the conversation was gone.

The lesson here is that bikes don't always move in a straight line. That's why cars should leave plently of room when overtaking. And that's why other bikes should always overtake on the right - where there is more room. And if there's not enough room on the right, don't overtake at all!

Oh and the little incident resulted in me having to cough up €40 for new pedals to replace the ones damaged in the fall, as well as ligament damage to my wrist that took about 6 weeks to heal. So if the idiot happens to be reading this - you, sir, are an idiot!

Stark · 26-02-2009 3:27pm

Sean02 wrote: »

NEVER PASS ANOTHER CYCLIST ON THE INSIDE WITHOUT WARNING.

Could you live with the shame?

scottreynolds · 26-02-2009 4:05pm

Sean02 wrote: »

NEVER PASS ANOTHER CYCLIST ON THE INSIDE WARNING.

NEVER PASS ANOTHER CYCLIST ON THE INSIDE

blorg · 26-02-2009 4:18pm

souter wrote: »

Should I have shouted "right turn" as well as signal? In retrospect probably would have been better safe than sorry.

Signalling clearly is more than enough IMO.

Sean02 · 26-02-2009 10:17pm

I aggree with you Boston however the incident was on the other side of Whites Gate oposite the ordnance survey pedestrian gate.

BostonB · 27-02-2009 1:59am

Sean02 wrote: »

I aggree with you Boston however the incident was on the other side of Whites Gate oposite the ordnance survey pedestrian gate.

Theres little or no traffic on those lanes anyway. No reason to squeeze up the inside, you can use the whole road. He was an idiot.

I was joking about the bell. Besides people react unpredictably to a warning in any format.

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