Heroes...will it be cancelled?

Richard Dower

What do you think of Fugitives thus far?...ratings continue to drop, will it get a fourth season?

Will the bringing onboard of "Company Man" writer make a difference?...HadsTim Kring gone the way of OC creator and just gotten cocky with the season one success and just taken a back seat?

Who's sick of Hiro?...who's sick of the Petrelli's?...answers on a postcard :P

Stark

I got sick of it early on through Season 3. I think what annoyed me most was all the time travel/alternate realities stuff. There were no consequences for anything anymore and no motivation to get engaged in the stories.

ziedth

Stark wrote: »

I got sick of it early on through Season 3. I think what annoyed me most was all the time travel/alternate realities stuff. There were no consequences for anything anymore and no motivation to get engaged in the stories.

I disagree, I always liked the Alternate reality stuff even in other shows such as stargate/ds9.

I can see the major dip in form down to basically one thing IMO, The Acting. Its been shocking lately and i'm looking particualrly at Claire.

Also too many of the Characters just plainly piss me off. Hiro/Claire/Stacy/Angela.

The only high point has been Sylar and I've always liked Matt in it.

Hopefully it picks up, I liked season 1 for the most part but since "Beleding Eyes" came on the scene its taken a dive.

PirateShampoo

No body ever dies.



EVER

Dunnie1982

I just got this weeks episode & am just about to watch it. I think the story lines have gotten a little bit better, but still not a patch on series 1. They have to kill off Peter, Claire, Tracy & Ando as none of them can act & I dislike their characters. If they make Hiro get his powers back & grow up & stop acting so childish I think he could be a good character. Either way its still better than most tv shows.

Fysh

I think it's going to get canned. The writing has lost the sense of coherence and consistency that was present in the first series, chiefly because of the loss of direction of the characters. There's been no great development or movement of character in any of the core cast that hasn't been reversed or undone, which has led to the general perception that none of the events in the show ever have lasting consequences (much like the superhero comics from which they crib so many storyline and character ideas).

Consider the time-travel problem - instead of engineering a silly set of circumstances to rob various characters of their powers, why not kill them off? You eliminate two problems - characters who have no obvious further development, and abilities which hamper storytelling - while also having story events which can be used to propel other characters in interesting new directions. Truth be dold

Instead, the show got stuck into a perpetual status quo at the end of the first season and has foundered ever since. It's a shame, but on the other hand it's just a TV show.

Edited to add:

In terms of original cast members, I think only Noah Bennett and Sylar can realistically remain compelling as central characters. Everyone else needs to either drop into the background or disappear completely.

Nervous Wreck

I really hope it doesn't. If for no reason other than, there's nothing else of the genre on tv really.... I think a couple of characters need to be culled and the reality of death needs to be reinstated. Isaac's death at the end of S1 was great because he was part of the core cast, which just shows that it's not all about keeping the same lads going.... Claire, Hiro and Ando need to die. Too lazy to write more actually. Fleh.

Fysh

I dunno about that, to be honest. The latest batch of superhero flicks (hopefully including Watchmen although we'll see about that when it opens to general release in the cinema) have given audiences more sophisticated and nuanced characters with special abilities, and have generally been well-received - Heroes started off well in that direction but has since dropped to sub-Smallville standards. I mean it's basically like a bad OC knock-off with superpowers at this stage.

Frankly, if a show with more consistent character development and a much better overall standard of writing like The 4400 gets cancelled, I don't see much hope for Heroes. It's pretty obvious that Kring was talking out of his ringpiece about having five volumes of story planned out back when series one was taking off, and without a big story to tell, a show like Heroes has no easy hook to draw people back once the writers have screwed the pooch as royally as they did over the course of volumes 2 and 3.

Overheal

Frankly this is the kind of show that would have really benefited from a revolving door of characters. Think about the Twilight Zone or the Outer Limits. Both moderately successful, each week a brand new plot line, new characters, new setting. Something that Heroes should have become and felt like it was at the start just a bunch of smaller stories visited at once. But now youve got all these people mashed together and it just feels wrong. It should have taken the format of Pulp Fiction, frankly. Where characters coincide with eachother but are the main character unto themselves.

Even Knight Rider 08 realised they were making a huge mistake and moved (perhaps just a little too late) to kill off the problematic sidekick characters.

Ri_Nollaig

Overheal wrote: »

Frankly this is the kind of show that would have really benefited from a revolving door of characters. Think about the Twilight Zone or the Outer Limits. Both moderately successful, each week a brand new plot line, new characters, new setting. Something that Heroes should have become and felt like it was at the start just a bunch of smaller stories visited at once. But now youve got all these people mashed together and it just feels wrong. It should have taken the format of Pulp Fiction, frankly. Where characters coincide with eachother but are the main character unto themselves.

Even Knight Rider 08 realised they were making a huge mistake and moved (perhaps just a little too late) to kill off the problematic sidekick characters.

As far as I know it was meant to be that way, each series was a completely new set of characters. But it was a vicitim of its own success and people wanted to same the same faces return.

Similar with prison break, it started off as a mini series and should have ended with them escaping.

Creamy Goodness

it's just god damn awful now.

the quality of writing has gone completely out the window.

unreggd

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

the quality of writing has gone completely out the window.

there was quality of writing?:O

Really not arsed with it now

I watch 24 and Heroes at the same time

When I watch 24 I'm dyin for more! When I watch Heroes, I want it to be over

its dross!!!

Mr.Nice Guy

Can't say I'd really care to be honest other than having a feeling of sadness at how such a promising show went downhill so badly. Maybe if they announced the show had just one season after this it might actually be a good thing. Then they could work towards ending the show in style.

It feels at the moment like a movie that grips you in the opening half hour but two hours into it has you looking at your watch wondering when it will all be over.

Blazer

Fysh wrote: »

I dunno about that, to be honest. The latest batch of superhero flicks (hopefully including Watchmen although we'll see about that when it opens to general release in the cinema) have given audiences more sophisticated and nuanced characters with special abilities, and have generally been well-received - Heroes started off well in that direction but has since dropped to sub-Smallville standards. I mean it's basically like a bad OC knock-off with superpowers at this stage.

Frankly, if a show with more consistent character development and a much better overall standard of writing like The 4400 gets cancelled, I don't see much hope for Heroes. It's pretty obvious that Kring was talking out of his ringpiece about having five volumes of story planned out back when series one was taking off, and without a big story to tell, a show like Heroes has no easy hook to draw people back once the writers have screwed the pooch as royally as they did over the course of volumes 2 and 3.

Ah the 4400...great show and those fcuks cancel it...same with Jericho...
In their cases it was poor promotion and showing it the same time as American football...in heroes case it will be because it's gotten complete crap.
Only Sylar + Bennett are saving the show as it is.
Kill of Hiro/Claire etc.
Leave Peter in...give him back his superpowers and go mono y mono with Sylar.

*Dallas

wots with Nathan, he's either bad or good.. cant be both, its just stupid

and i hate Claire.. although i recon they'll keep her in for the guys. what really gets me is her whole appearance is sooo fake. Hayden has naturally blonde hair, yet they insist on puttin the most awful wig that makes her have a ginormous foreheard!

too many little things that annoy me, im seriously loosing interest.. they need new characters, i thought Bubbs from The Wire was great

wandatowell

Sylar carries the show imo, thats guy is as funny as ****,

Ziggy_1972

In season 1, when Claire wakes up in the morgue, with her chest cut open and rib cage exposed, that was really great. Unfortunately, it was the highlight of her character to date.
Sylar is the best character, if he's evil, or trying not to be. Quinto plays him with just enough reserve so he doesn't ham it up.
Bring back Claude Rains.
Move away from almost everybody else.