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Can you play Democratic Strategist?

  • 19-02-2009 6:02pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭


    note: just a thought experiment using some internet info... you aren’t really a newly appointed democratic strategist, even though you did pay your taxes

    Your assignment, should you choose to accept it as a newly appointed democratic strategist – US Attorney’s department, is to come up with a scenario where we can eliminate the remaining 51 GW Bush appointed US attorneys from their posts and not look like a bunch of complete hypocrites. We have bought you some time by announcing that all 51 Bush appointees still serving are technically there, but only on a temporary basis.

    Here are a couple of factors you need to keep in mind. We are still out to get Karl Rove, Alberto Gonzales, Josh Bolten, and Harriet Miers for their involvement in the firings of 8 US Attorney’s in mid-stream. Now we all know that they did exactly what we want to do, which is make appointments that are were more sympathetic to the administration's political agenda, but we need to do it in a manner that the US public will buy into.

    Although some presidents fire all US Attorneys at the beginning of their term, and replace them with their own picks, because as we all know the U.S. Attorneys "serve at the pleasure of the president," we have a dilemma. We made a big deal out of Bush's firing them without the benefit of professional merit. And since Bush’s big wig’s refuse to answer questions, we so far can’t come up with a feasible explanation countering their reasoning. I know you would prefer to utilize our two best arguments… "WE WON," but we’ve already used that on the stimulus package. The other "HISTORY STARTS TODAY" unfortunately has been so overdone, and until we can get either the Fairness Doctrine or Localism Rules in place, we have to tread carefully.

    As you can plainly see, our dilemma basically comes down to WHAT NOW and HOW NOW? We have already though about the mid-stream thing against Bush, but we run into that dang "professional merit" problem we’ve been pushing.

    So please come up with some ideas we could use in our quest to fire those Bushies. Thank you.


    [[Warning: If you fail to come up with an adequate solution, please be advised that you will be placed in charge of fixing that mess where the facility in New Jersey (which does some anti-terrorism research) keeps loosing mice infected with bubonic plague… dang dentists. Luckily the public doesn’t know much about it yet.]]


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,007 ✭✭✭Moriarty


    Isn't it funny how it's always the party-political puppets living in their own little universe of one-upmanship who hate each other the most? You'd think they'd get along splendidly with such similarly narrow perspectives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I would just point them in the direction of their backyards:

    LP_Gas_Tank025-DFs.jpg

    Now I KNOW WHAT YOURE THINKING, Its a gas tank. BUT, this gas tank can be used to store BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS. Coincidence????????

    I believe that have, and have the capability to produce Weapons of Mass Destruction. We Must invade Now. We Can't wait for Hans Blix this time, my fellow americans.

    Bring a metal detector though: I have a feeling we're gonna find Karl Rove hiding in a hole somewhere out in Oklahoma.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Attorney’s department, is to come up with a scenario where we can eliminate the remaining 51 GW Bush appointed US attorneys from their posts and not look like a bunch of complete hypocrites

    Why? It's not unusual for there to be a mass changing of the guard with a new Presidency.

    NTM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 795 ✭✭✭Pocono Joe


    Why? It's not unusual for there to be a mass changing of the guard with a new Presidency.

    NTM

    NTM, you are absolutely correct. Because U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president. But that would absolve Karl Rove, Alberto Gonzales, Josh Bolten, and Harriet Miers in the matter. And we can’t let that happen now can we? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    Pocono Joe wrote: »
    NTM, you are absolutely correct. Because U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president. But that would absolve Karl Rove,

    If St Peter from on High came down from heaven on golden chariot with a choir of angels, and announced that God, Jesus and Holy flipping Ghost had absolved Karl Rove, I'd ask him for some ID, some written verification and the phone number of his supervisor. Would you like the list of sheer criminal acts the man executed?
    Alberto Gonzales,
    Alberto Gonzales, fired 8 US DA, the DA yes do serve the pleasure of President, but they felt they were being fired for partisan reasons, when Gonzales was challenged on this position he denied it, claiming they had performed "unsatisfactorily" these DA's presented positive performance reviews. The scandal wasn't that the DAs were fired for partisan reasons. The scandal was because they were fired for partisan reasons and the Bush administration tried to hide this.
    Josh Bolten, and

    Harriet Miers in the matter. And we can’t let that happen now can we? ;)

    Firstly It was John Bolton and Harriet Miers. Secondly they were respectively nominated for the positions of US UN ambassador and Supreme Court Judge, neither one of them actually held those positions and so therefore never even got a chance to serve at the pleasure of the president in his desired roles. See I hate to be the one who has to explain this to you The Legislature, Executive and Judiciary, but for these types of positions people like Bolton and Miers need to pass Senate oversight committees. This is one of the checks and balances American democracy prides itself on. Miers and Bolton performed shockingly and republican support for them in the Senate collapsed.

    Before you get all outraged Obama is going through the same hoops.

    So to sum up, Rove and Gonzales lost their jobs because (of among other reasons) fired a load of AGs for partisan reasons, got called on it, denied it, and were exposed as liars. And Miers and Bolton never got to serve the pleasure of their president, in the specified role's because they were never confirmed.

    Y'know I'd have respect for Obama if he fired a bunch of people hired in the previous administration because they serve at the pleasure at president. The Bush regime was remarkable for it's cronyism. Ken Lay on the Energy Commission? Michael 'Arabian Horse Judge turned federal agency disaster management" Brown? If you want to understand why the post war construction of the Iraq was a fiasco, you should read "Imperial Life in the Emerald City". Heres a fun time article about the depth and scale of cronyism in the Bush Administration. Plenty of dead wood for Obama to say, well yes you did serve at the pleasure of the president, but that was the old guy.


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