€10 for flying out of Dublin with Ryanair and other airlines?

Kotek Besar

That's new.. Isn't it?

Mountjoy Mugger

Came in the last budget. All airlines will be asking you to pay it.

Kotek Besar

Mountjoy Mugger wrote: »

Came in the last budget. All airlines will be asking you to pay it.

Didn't know that! Thanks.

Mountjoy Mugger

No problem. I think it's any flights to be taken from March 1st onwards. Mr Ryanair himself was up in arms about it.

Kotek Besar

I wonder if they'll absorb it, going forward. Otherwise it'll be the end of Ryanair's 1c flights that come from time to time.

Nody

benifa wrote: »

I wonder if they'll absorb it, going forward. Otherwise it'll be the end of Ryanair's 1c flights that come from time to time.

They will not absorb it and the 1c flight will still continue to come. The will simply list it as 1c + airport charges which was the case before as well.

Kotek Besar

Nody wrote: »

The will simply list it as 1c + airport charges which was the case before as well.

It wasn't. It was 1c including taxes and charges, excluding optional charges.

eth0_

Given Michael O'Leary's very vocal dissatisfaction with this ridiculous "tax", I doubt they will absorb it.

JohnC.

This tax can't be charged (eg. at check in) to a flight already booked and paid for before any of this came about, can it?

Pythia

Nody wrote: »

They will not absorb it and the 1c flight will still continue to come. The will simply list it as 1c + airport charges which was the case before as well.

Not true. They used to charge just 1c each way inc charges.

dudara

Thread title edited to not be so Ryanir-specific

dudara

ilovecars

is this 10€ each way?

Kotek Besar

ilovecars wrote: »

is this 10€ each way?

No, I think it's €10 per flight departing from Dublin.

Actually, is it just Dublin, or are other Irish airports affected?

bob123456

So if you book a flight for 1c with Ryanair you pay 1000% of the flight for this new tax and if you book a flight for €1000 with Air Lingus you pay 1%?

Have I got that right?

esharknz

Yeah,
I happened to get a fare with all taxes 'included' and this charge was additional to that, whereas in the past, the special offer price included everything (except the one way handling charge and airport check in, which I have to do also).

Kotek Besar

esharknz wrote: »

(except the one way handling charge and airport check in, which I have to do also).

..but you can get that refunded esharknz, after your flight, by writing to Ryananir Customer Services.

Where a passenger is unable to avail of Online Check-in by reason only of not being the holder of either a valid passport or a National Identity Card, issued by the government of an EU/EEA country, any airport check-in fee paid will be refunded upon application.

http://www.ryanair.com/site/IE/conditions.php

I always do.

esharknz

Wow!
Thanks very much. I didn't realise that I could get that money back at all, and just had to stump up with it.

What annoyed me more though is having to book twice for a weekend away as OH is Irish and can check in online (saving €10). Some security risk!

parsi

bob123456 wrote: »

So if you book a flight for 1c with Ryanair you pay 1000% of the flight for this new tax and if you book a flight for €1000 with Air Lingus you pay 1%?

Have I got that right?

Yep.

Also if you book a 1c flight with Ryanair you'll pay 500 times that on a credit card fee.

Bluetonic

benifa wrote: »

Actually, is it just Dublin, or are other Irish airports affected?

It's all Irish airports for aircraft capable or carrying 20 or more passengers. There are two rates and they use Dublin Airport as the marker.

• €2 will apply where the flight is to a destination located not more than 300 kilometres from Dublin Airport
• €10 will apply to flights to any other destination

darc

Its a simple departure tax. It is applied to all flights departing from airports in the republic of Ireland.

In the UK they call it Air Passenger Duty and it costs from £10 to £80 depending on where you fly and what class you fly.

In France it is from €1 to €40, In New Zealand its $25. Quite a lot of countries charge it in some form or another. The usa adds tax to airline fuel, so its built into the ticket prices.

On your ticket it will just show as taxes & charges.

Cammy86

I just booked a flight to the UK end of March till start April as I didn't have to pay this insane tax. Mr O leary has a petition going at the moment to join when you book a flight at the end of booking you can sign up which sends a email to the government to scrap this tax. I am totally in agreement with him. In these hard times and where businesses are closing and what with the euro being bad we want to encourage tourists to visit Ireland not tax them to come here. Government need to sort it out!!!!

steviec

darc wrote: »

Its a simple departure tax. It is applied to all flights departing from airports in the republic of Ireland.

In the UK they call it Air Passenger Duty and it costs from £10 to £80 depending on where you fly and what class you fly.

In France it is from €1 to €40, In New Zealand its $25. Quite a lot of countries charge it in some form or another. The usa adds tax to airline fuel, so its built into the ticket prices.

On your ticket it will just show as taxes & charges.

How is this different to the taxes and charges that already go on flights? Normally when you book with Ryanair the taxes and charges already make up more than 50% of the cost (for my usual trips home from the UK anyway), but then when Ryanair do special offers they absorb the taxes and charges and just charge you for the flight. How is this tax different from what was there before?

Red Sleeping Beauty

benifa wrote: »

..but you can get that refunded esharknz, after your flight, by writing to Ryananir Customer Services.


http://www.ryanair.com/site/IE/conditions.php

I always do.

I'm particuarly slow tonight so can someone explain this ?
If you don't have a passport or EU National Identity card you can get this check-in charge refunded

Cammy86

good question. I always book early on flights and get the current offers which never have taxes and charges but normal priced flights do. What ryanair do is encourage the first so many passengers to take up there offer on a flight then when they have a certain amount of passengers they change the flight from special to normal price with taxes and charges that way most of the passengers who book on the regular fare pay these taxes and charges. They can afford to not charge the first special offer passengers for that flight because when the flight goes up high when more and more people book on that flight so does the taxes and charges and thats how they claw there taxes and charges back.

iseethelight

Cammy86 wrote: »

I just booked a flight to the UK end of March till start April as I didn't have to pay this insane tax. Mr O leary has a petition going at the moment to join when you book a flight at the end of booking you can sign up which sends a email to the government to scrap this tax. I am totally in agreement with him. In these hard times and where businesses are closing and what with the euro being bad we want to encourage tourists to visit Ireland not tax them to come here. Government need to sort it out!!!!

INSANE TAX???
EH WE HAVE NO MONEY WE NEED THIS TAX IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO FLY YOU CAN AFFORD TO PAY
SIMPLE!!!

Cammy86

I can afford to fly by booking early and avoiding this charge. My flight was less than the charge itself. Just a low government claw to rip people off because they can't think of other ways to make money. Its low!!! Like lower retail food shopping to make shopper stay here rather than shop north.

iseethelight

Its not low. The government needs to raise revenue desperately,this is probably the fairest tax they've introduced I would expect it to go up, in these times flying is nothing more than a luxury.

Cammy86

So you would rather see less people coming through Ireland because they won't pay this tax. Brilliant idea, no tourists to pump money into the economy. Its not a luxury to fly when you are hard up and have family in the UK, its a cheap only option. Well why don't they just put car tax up that's a luxury then if your saying flying is a luxury and there are more cars on the road than planes. They will soon make money. Government needs there heads knocking together!!!

iseethelight

If you can afford now to book to visit the USA would an extra €10 make any difference? No
Its exactly the same for anyone coming to Ireland their not going to suddenly change their mind because they have to pay another €10.
On the subject of car tax its already very high in Ireland much higher than the UK for example but that will go up too. The airline tax is only catching up on other countries.

Cammy86

I am going to the UK not USA. Yes I would mind paying this tax. If you had a group of people going its a lot of money. Car tax is expensive but hey so is everything else in Ireland so raising tax on vehicles will not harm anyone.
Yeah let them carry on charging people into Ireland and see this country suffer. What could they tax people on next oh well they have silly ideas up there sleeves maybe taxing people to use public transport you get encouraged to use it but get taxed to use it at the same time. Cut government pay actually sack all of them and get some decent person in. There you go that will save money!!!!!

iseethelight

Well we can certainly agree on 1 thing the government needs changing. However €10 won't stop anyone who wants and can afford to visit Ireland coming. At least prices are dropping to negate some of the tax increases.
I don't think we will agree on the airline tax its the only fair measure introduced imo and nothing you've said has changed my opinion.

Cammy86

Bit late prices are dropping that's why they are in this mess. Yeah we will agree to disagree

iseethelight

Just goes to show how much we were being robbed on prices before

Cammy86

Yeah they rob you once then they rob you again (airport tax). Lol. Joke!!!

iseethelight

good one i'm no fan of taxes just fairness and i think this one is fair enough

darc

Cammy86 wrote: »

Its not a luxury to fly when you are hard up and have family in the UK, its a cheap only option.

So the €10 tax for departing Ireland is insane yet you don't seem to have a problem with the £10 tax you've been paying departing UK airports for the past few years?????

MOH

iseethelight wrote: »

INSANE TAX???
EH WE HAVE NO MONEY WE NEED THIS TAX IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO FLY YOU CAN AFFORD TO PAY
SIMPLE!!!

Thanks for shouting

iseethelight wrote: »

If you can afford now to book to visit the USA would an extra €10 make any difference? No

If you're spending 3 or 4 hundred quid then €10 isn't much extra.

Its exactly the same for anyone coming to Ireland their not going to suddenly change their mind because they have to pay another €10.

Some people certainly are. If you're paying a cent of €5 for a flight, and now there's an extra €10 on top, it's going to put some people off.

Cammy86

Darc read the above before commenting. I don't pay any taxes on my flights as I only book when there is a offer which has no taxes so get your facts right!!!!

Mr. Presentable

MOH wrote: »

Some people certainly are. If you're paying a cent of €5 for a flight, and now there's an extra €10 on top, it's going to put some people off.

To be fair, nobody wants people who'd be put off by €10.00 on an air fare spending a weekend in their city.

For perspective, in the 1980's I paid over £300.00 to fly to London. You wouldn't get to the airport from Dublin City Centre in a taxi for €10.00

It'll put nobody off, despite what some posters might say. Price of a packet of fags? Pint and a half? That'll stop you going to Milan for a weekend?

Cammy86

Good point but when you are encouraged to use public transport and have always paid a small fee to fly and then have a tax on top I think it is unfair. I think if they put a 10euro tax of fags it would stop many people!!!! Not that It will be you see my point.

Red Sleeping Beauty

In the 80s if you wanted to go to London you got the bus/boat

darc

Cammy86 wrote: »

Darc read the above before commenting. I don't pay any taxes on my flights as I only book when there is a offer which has no taxes so get your facts right!!!!

The FACT is there is a departure tax in the UK for many years that cannot be avoided. It ranges from £10 to £80. FACT.

Just because ryanair paid it for you does not mean it did not exist for your ticket. Ryanair simply absorbed the cost but will charge you elsewhere to get it back. (€2.50 for mini can -150ml of coke)

Now the latest ryanair money grab = charging passengers to check in online / at desk.

"From 1 May all passengers checking in online will be charged a €5 fee, except for promotional fares.

Passengers continuing to use check-in desks will be charged €10 per person from 19 March, and then €20 per person from 1 May"

Scottie99

benifa wrote: »

I wonder if they'll absorb it, going forward. Otherwise it'll be the end of Ryanair's 1c flights that come from time to time.

"going forward", its one of most annoying phrases in recent years!

jor el

For people who have to fly often, or those who only fly Ryanair, then it'll probably have quite an impact. For people who never fly Ryanair (like me) or tourists who might come here once or twice a year, 10 euro will make no difference.

Trampas

jor el wrote: »

For people who have to fly often, or those who only fly Ryanair, then it'll probably have quite an impact. For people who never fly Ryanair (like me) or tourists who might come here once or twice a year, 10 euro will make no difference.

the €10 is for all airlines not just Ryanair