New Minister for Transport

Colm R

May be playing devils advocate here, but who would you like to see as our next minister for Transport. This may happen very soon. Poll attached with the only real options I can think of.

Badabing

Fianna Fail are in goverment so i choose Sean Connick for the hell of it.

dsane1

I know its an unlikely scenario anyway ,but does a minister have to be elected to the Dail or could they appoint someone with the expertise to do the job .Not suggesting this ,just for example ,Dennis O Brien minister for communication etc.

paulm17781

dsane1 wrote: »

I kow its an unlikely scenario anyway ,but does a minister have to be elected to the Dail or could they appoint someone with the expertise to do the job .Not suggesting this ,just for example ,Dennis O Brien minister for communication etc.

He wasn't a communications expert by any means. He took a massive risk with ESAT (no profit, sell company) that worked. Look at Oisin Fanning from Smart, he tried the same thing and is now in serious trouble.

I know what you mean though, you need people with expertise in these jobs and that is often the problem. However to be a minister, you must be elected.

IIMII

Considering virtually all potential candidates in this Dáil are self-serving publicists, I wouldn't back any of them.

But I particularly wouldn't back a Green one (once bitten, twice shy), a Labour one (won't reform transport), Fine Gael (everything will be built in the West), Sinn Féin (don't know anything of any policies), or the PD (she doesn't do anything Public Transport-wise that doesn't involve trolleys).

Darn - will change achieve anything? I picked other for the record, in case God has a secret plan to sort the mess out. I remember reading something about 4 horses

Bards

paulm17781 wrote: »

He wasn't a communications expert by any means. He took a massive risk with ESAT (no profit, sell company)

He (Denis O'Brien) Alledgedly bribed Michael Lowery (FG) -

Edit: Aparatly: Telnor tried to Sue the Govt

BIG RTE Prime Time Investiages on this a couple of years ago

Edited for legal reasons

http://www.rte.ie/news/2001/0713/moriarty.html

paulm17781

Bards wrote: »

He (Denis O'Brien) aparantly bribed Michael Lowery (FG) -

That just shows he had some intuition. I don't agree with what he may or may not have done but it certainly paid off for him.

Colm R

Indeed, you have to be elected. But it is a valid point.

I think though, what you need in a Minister, lets say Transport, is good HR skills. The potential to go out to the industry and get someone (not consultants) to be paid a decent civil service salary. The person should have a proven track record and qualifications.

IF the person performs well, this is reflected on the Minister, and if the person does not, the minister needs to be accountable. But anyway, enough of my day dreaming.

As an aside, I don't really believe the government is going to collapse soon, but this is as close as we have come in a long time.

dsane1

Maybe im being pessimistic ,but if there is an election and we get fg/labour or similiar all i can see is them pointing the finger at ff ,saying look how bad it is tut tut etc .Thats no bloody good is it ?
I'm not delighted with ff either but i dont see a credible alternative at the moment .I think people have lost faith in ff but i dont believe they are inspired by fg/labour .

Tipsy Mac

With lack of cash from government and about 10 years ahead of pain, misery and recession on this island I don't think anyone can do a decent job of it with the limited resources available.

Chris_533976

I could do a better job than any of those idiots.

Carawaystick

dsane1 wrote: »

I know its an unlikely scenario anyway ,but does a minister have to be elected to the Dail or could they appoint someone with the expertise to do the job .Not suggesting this ,just for example ,Dennis O Brien minister for communication etc.

I think you just have to be an Oireachtas member, after a GE the taoiseach gets to pick a few.

Art 28.7.2

but as the seanad is picked now, we are where we are.

i think Fergus O Dowd has done better than Labours person - who is it even? as for the greens, don't make me laugh.

Would O Dowd be better than Dempsey - yes. Would he be good? who knows.

Frank007

You dont have to be elected to become a minister. The taoiseach appoints a set number of individuals to the senate, any senator can become a minister (except for finance minister) so it is possible for a taoiseach to appoint an "expert" to the senate and then a minister.

I'm not sure if this has ever happened or ever will. But I pray to god it will not be that Pr!ck denis o brien

Stroke Politics

A minister can be any member of the Oireachtas, and can appointed as a Taoiseach's nominee from the Seanad. Dr. Jim Doogue was appointed a senator by Garret Fitzgerald and served as Minister for Foreign Affairs in 1981 AFAIR.....

When this govt, does fall, I hope that Minister Dempsey does a last-minute order on the Navan Rail link phase 2, just like the previous incumbent (Dick Roche) signed off on the Sacred Motorway in the last hours of the last administration.....

Vic_08

dsane1 wrote: »

Maybe im being pessimistic ,but if there is an election and we get fg/labour or similiar all i can see is them pointing the finger at ff ,saying look how bad it is tut tut etc .Thats no bloody good is it ?
I'm not delighted with ff either but i dont see a credible alternative at the moment .

The inhabitants of the monkey enclosure in Dublin Zoo who spend their days playing with their own fecies and masturbating would be a credibile alternative.

Why do so many people still insist on pushing this double standard when it comes to FF? The PDs and Greens are damned to hell for their part in the government but the major player FF still get this unwarranted benefit of the doubt. Where is the doubt.

If the cabinet at the FF ard fheis tied your mother to the podium and gang raped her would you turn around and say "yes they are bold boys but I really don't like FG and Labour because they probably would do the same". No, you would want to se the perpitrators caught, prosecuted, punished and kept locked up to ensure they would never be allowed to commit the same crimes again.

That is EXACTLY what they have done to the country and I for one do not wish to see them rewarded for it.

Anyone that has successfully house-trained an animal will tell you that you reward good behaviour and punish bad otherwise you end up with piss-soaked carpets and a large steaming pile on the duvet.

If FF are anything other than decimated in the upcoming locals and far too distant general what message will that send to them? Piss on the electorate from a great height and cover their aspirations in **** and you will still get a nice cosy pad, big bowl of premium meat chunks and a nice chew toy.


the only way we will ever get a competent, un-corrupted government that works for the electorate rather than their own self-interests is if we send a clear message that failure results in removal from office and no return. That means giving the benefit of the doubt to those who have NOT fukced things up rather than those who have.

steyr fan

Michael O Leary

mysterious

Anyone not Irish can we pick

I just think every Irish politician just does not understand transport planning.

I'd pick the purple dinosaur quicker than any of the previous ministers.

I would actually throw a lovely pint over Martin Cullen, as he's an idiot**** who just drew all over the map with crayons rather than actually do anything in action. :mad:

I hate these politicians.
I'm votin Sinn fein in the next election. And I'm considered liberal. I just cant stand these showers of ***** in government anymore.

Bards

mysterious wrote: »

Anyone not Irish can we pick

I just think every Irish politician just does not understand transport planning.

I'd pick the purple dinosaur quicker than any of the previous ministers.

I would actually throw a lovely pint over Martin Cullen, as he's an idiot**** who just drew all over the map with crayons rather than actually do anything in action. :mad:

I hate these politicians.
I'm votin Sinn fein in the next election. And I'm considered liberal. I just cant stand these showers of ***** in government anymore.

At Least Cullen had the foresight to enact the legislation for Turning HQDC roads into Motorways:rolleyes:
Dempsey only had to sign it into law and sign off on a few ministerial orders.