Treatment of homosexuals in Trinity

CursedSkeptic

I finished my first degree in UCD last year, and now I am in Trinity. I am gay, and I think in UCD I was accepted more easily.Since my time in Trinity began I have been getting a lot of strange looks and insults from people when I tell them that I am gay. Has anyone else experienced this?

scruttocks

There doesn't seem to be much homophobia about from what I can see, the LGBT is a large and broadly accepted society, and an openly gay man is running (successfully enough, it seems) for an SU post this year.

Are you a member of LGBT? If you're finding being gay in Trinity difficult, there are certainly loads of people there who would be far more knowledgeable than me on how to deal with it.

Rorate Caeli

Maybe you shouldn't tell people who might not want to know. Don't ask, don't tell.

CursedSkeptic

Rorate Caeli wrote: »

Maybe you shouldn't tell people who might not want to know. Don't ask, don't tell.

Why should I hide who I am. I am proud of being gay, and I don't feel as if I should feel as if I am walking on eggshells

John

Rorate Caeli wrote: »

Maybe you shouldn't tell people who might not want to know. Don't ask, don't tell.

WTF? He shouldn't have to hide it.

Rorate Caeli

You don't have to hide anything. Just don't trumpet it -- if that is what what you are doing.

If I said to people when I first met them, "hi, I'm John, and I think Vatican II was a mistake", they'd rightfully think "wtf? Why is he telling me this?"

Tricity Bendix

Awww. I thought this thread was going to be about a gay recovery programme.



Topic: Trinity is very gay friendly. If you look at it institutionally, the Trinity LGBT was set up with little resistence from the powers that be compared with the struggle for recognition that took place in UCD. Trinity has had openly gay Presidents and openly gay people running societies large and small.

Looking at it more generally, half of Trinity's male population is either gay or bi, with most of the rest being metrosexual.

Also, there's a bit of bother going on in UCD at the mo regarding discrimination by the security folks against a gay couple. I've never heard of a similar incident in Trinity.

CursedSkeptic

Rorate Caeli wrote: »

You don't have to hide anything. Just don't trumpet it -- if that is what what you are doing.

If I said to people when I first met them, "hi, I'm John, and I think Vatican II was a mistake", they'd rightfully think "wtf? Why is he telling me this?"

What? If somebody came up to you and said Hi I am John and I am studying Medicine, you wouldn't think anything strange about that. This is exactly the sort of thing I am talking about :mad:

CursedSkeptic

Tricity Bendix wrote: »

Awww. I thought this thread was going to be about a gay recovery programme.

Why should we have to recover? Is there something wrong with being gay?

Tricity Bendix

CursedSkeptic wrote: »

Why should we have to recover? Is there something wrong with being gay?

Nothing bad per se. It's just a very exhausting lifestyle: the parties, the clubbing, the chamagne cocktails, the late-night bitching sessions, the endless stream of one night stands... It does eventually wear one out.

Fad

CursedSkeptic wrote: »

Why should we have to recover? Is there something wrong with being gay?

Did you bother reading the rest of his post?

partyguinness

Did these people ask you specifically if you were gay or what your sexual orientation was? or did you just volunteer the information?

Mr. Incognito

From your interactions on this thread it seems like maybe YOU'RE the one with a chip on your shoulder.

Maybe you're just a loud queen who people find annoying and it's nothing to do with people being homophobic.

CursedSkeptic

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

From your interactions on this thread it seems like maybe YOU'RE the one with a chip on your shoulder.

Maybe you're just a loud queen who people find annoying and it's nothing to do with people being homophobic.

Well you are clearly homophobic, so you would say that wouldn't you?

Tricity Bendix

CursedSkeptic wrote: »

Well you are clearly homophobic, so you would say that wouldn't you?

Honey, babe, darling - please stop. You're giving our kind a bad name. Instead of getting all hot and bothered, why not respond to those posters on this thread who are actually trying to be of assistance.

Mr. Incognito is no 'phobe. He's known as Ms. Incognito on Saturday nights.

partyguinness

Did these people ask you specifically if you were gay or what your sexual orientation was?

Or did you just volunteer the information?

illiop

CursedSkeptic wrote: »

What? If somebody came up to you and said Hi I am John and I am studying Medicine, you wouldn't think anything strange about that. This is exactly the sort of thing I am talking about :mad:

You're clearly just looking for attention. There is a clear difference between informing someone about what you studying and your sexual orientation. It's exactly the same for straight people "Hi, nice to meet you, I'm straight." would be just as odd. Also, I don't mean this as some sort of an insult (you could be the nicest person ever, I dunno) but maybe these people just don't particularly like you and you're just assuming it's cause you're gay

Mr. Incognito

Mr. Incognito is no 'phobe. He's known as Ms. Incognito on Saturday nights

Damn straight

maybe these people just don't particularly like you and you're just assuming it's cause you're gay

Nail............ head.

Time Magazine

Tricity Bendix wrote: »

Nothing bad per se. It's just a very exhausting lifestyle: the parties, the clubbing, the chamagne cocktails, the late-night bitching sessions, the endless stream of one night stands... It does eventually wear one out.

I love you.

The Walsho

CursedSkeptic wrote: »

I finished my first degree in UCD last year, and now I am in Trinity. I am gay, and I think in UCD I was accepted more easily.Since my time in Trinity began I have been getting a lot of strange looks and insults from people when I tell them that I am gay. Has anyone else experienced this?

I can't help but imagine a conversation :

Randomer : Hey, how's it going?
CursedSkeptic : FINE I'M GAY, I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!
Randomer : *strange look*
CursedSkeptic : HOMOPHOBE!

Seriously though, I can't imagine Trinity being less accepting of gay people than anywhere else. I honestly didn't think this sort of thing was an issue anymore. Like others have said, perhaps you're taking ill feeling toward you and assuming it's because you're gay.

Edit :

CursedSkeptic wrote: »

What? If somebody came up to you and said Hi I am John and I am studying Medicine, you wouldn't think anything strange about that. This is exactly the sort of thing I am talking about :mad:

Sorry but that is an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. In fact, most of your posts on this thread have been a bit silly, making me decide that I'm not your biggest fan. This is not because you're gay. Perhaps this translates into the real world too.

ChocolateSauce

What I find interesting is how you could have finished a degree in UCD when you were posting in the UCD forum just a few months ago that you were 17 and in first year. Who are you lying to, the Trinners or the UCDians? Or both?

Boston

Ok, I've reviewed your posts on the UCD forum, and a few other forums and you're clearly a clue-train fuktard. Being gay doesn't stop you being a cluetrain fuktard and perhaps people are responding to your cluetrain fuktard aspects rather then your gay aspects.

Johnny Volume

CursedSkeptic wrote: »

Well you are clearly homophobic, so you would say that wouldn't you?

Is your name Daffyd by any chance

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/daffyd-poster-little.jpg

Tricity Bendix

This thread has been fun. I've enjoyed posting and reading it. Its brightened my day.


I wonder what treatment for homosexuality would actually entail? I'm thinking of something akin to a day spa for re-manning oneself.

First off, all sparkly t-shirts and stylishly ripped jeans are confiscated and burned, to be replaced by clothes perchased in an army surplus store.

Mornings will be given over to playing footie, but no-one will be given the opportunity to wus out by being in goals. Afternoons will be pool (the one with long sticks, not skimpy swimming gear). Evenings would have to be manly men's films like Die Hard and Lock Stock.

Stargal

Tricity Bendix wrote:

Nothing bad per se. It's just a very exhausting lifestyle: the parties, the clubbing, the chamagne cocktails, the late-night bitching sessions, the endless stream of one night stands... It does eventually wear one out.

The Economist wrote: »

I love you.

Damnit, you got there before me.

Sir Ophiuchus

Seriously, I'm with Tricity Bendix on this one. I'm gay, and ended up letting a bunch of my class know in our first week while doing a crossword puzzle. They couldn't remember how many "g"s there were in "******" - the bundle of sticks, of course, not the homophobic term! *grins* It was never a problem with any of them (standard reaction: Cool!) and I've made a bunch of friends in that class since then. As a matter of fact, I think Trinity as a college is incredibly gay-friendly.

Also, reflexively accusing people of homophobia is a really bad idea.

Finally, the LGBT here in Trinity is great, so do feel free to drop on by and get a feel for how we find being gay in Trinity.

ChocolateSauce

Sir Ophiuchus wrote: »

As a matter of fact, I think Trinity as a college is incredibly gay-friendly.

Well the only people who aren't gay-friendly are either religious or uneducated, and in a place like Trinity that leaves only option one.

the flananator

CursedSkeptic wrote: »

I finished my first degree in UCD last year, and now I am in Trinity. I am gay, and I think in UCD I was accepted more easily.Since my time in Trinity began I have been getting a lot of strange looks and insults from people when I tell them that I am gay. Has anyone else experienced this?

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Sir Ophiuchus

the flananator wrote: »

Fag! Fag! FAG!!!!

Sorry, I don't smoke.

shay_562

I can't really imagine a more gay-friendly place than Trinity existing in Ireland today. If anything, I've been criticised by many of my Trinity friends for not being gay enough.

Oh, and word to the "Don't throw around the term 'homophobia'" thing. Crying 'bigotry' every time someone thinks you're a spanner just makes it harder to tackle actual bigots.

Oh, and:

Some Old Oven wrote:

Evenings would have to be manly men's films like Die Hard

Screw you! I *love* Die Hard. "Ho...ho...ho. Now I haff a machine gun."

Fad

Tricity Bendix wrote: »

Evenings would have to be manly men's films like Die Hard and Lock Stock.

Obviously while getting a lap dance from a busty lady with a strong ale in hand.

Borneo Fnctn

OP, nobody cares if you're gay. You're very quick to label people as homophobes. You're not the first gay man in Trinity and you won't be the last.

Pet

Trinity is perhaps the gayest 47 acres in all of Ireland [and perhaps Western Europe, if London and all the straight-but-poncy twats there are left out of the equation]. I would be extremely surprised to encounter homophobia here; even those who do genuinely harbour distaste generally keep it to themselves, because they're overwhelmingly in the minority. Not to mention the fact that Trinity is run largely by homos. I doubt Cantab would be so forthcoming with his invective were he still an undergrad.

skregs

you might be getting odd looks and finding it hard to make friends because you're a whiny bastard. you should probably chillax and try to ease off the persecution complex a bit.

ApeXaviour

Wow caught this late.

I'm sorry to spoil the fun by locking this kiddos. I am rather proud of the way this thread has ended up though. And I'd like to leave it in this condition before someone comes and ruins it.