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Bus Route 40/A/C Scrapped??

  • 17-02-2009 4:21pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭


    This might be a load of rubbish but I've read on another website that Dublin Bus is scrapping the 40 routes and there is now going to be a 240 local route going around Finglas and that the only Finglas bus going city centre will be the 140 from the village??

    Anyone heard anything about this? Or is it just a rumour?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Surely not? I lived in Dublin between 2000 and 2003 and always caught one of the 40s at the Glasnevin Cemetary stop. It was a great service, always busy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭Aquavid


    This might be a load of rubbish but I've read on another website that Dublin Bus is scrapping the 40 routes and there is now going to be a 240 local route going around Finglas and that the only Finglas bus going city centre will be the 140 from the village??

    Anyone heard anything about this? Or is it just a rumour?


    What you seem to have come across is a discussion of the proposals in the report that Deloitte gave to the Transport Minister Noel Dempsey.

    Finglas was just used as an example of what *might* be done, if the consultants had their way.

    “Bus users deserve a better bus service and this report sets out how we can make that happen.” - Dempsey


    26 January 2009

    The Minister for Transport, Noel Dempsey TD, today published a report on a cost and efficiency review of Dublin Bus and Bus Éireann carried out on his behalf by a Deloitte led consortium.

    Speaking today at the launch of the report Minister Dempsey said; “Bus users deserve a better bus service and this report sets out how we can make that happen. Never has there been a greater demand for quality public transport services yet bus passenger numbers are falling. Today I am setting out how I believe we can stop a further slide in bus passenger numbers by improving bus services at a time when CIE are facing enormous financial difficulties.

    This report will act as a blueprint for a fundamental review and re-shaping of the current bus network in Dublin. This change process needs to start now. I have asked the Chairman of CIE to set out for me, within the next two weeks, an implementation programme of the report’s recommendations. Bus passengers want to see improvements in the bus network without delay and so do I. Business as usual is not an option for CIE in 2009.

    This year I have made record funding available to CIE (€313m) at a time when money has never been more scarce. CIE is projected to incur losses in 2009 of up to €100m unless it makes changes now to grow passengers numbers and cut costs. With the help of this blueprint published today CIE can make real improvements to its services and attract more passengers. This report shows that Dublin Bus do not need more buses they just need to better use the buses they already have.”

    The main recommendations of this report are as follows:

    DUBLIN BUS
    There is considerable scope for Dublin Bus to improve its service to customers, increase efficiencies and save money.

    Specifically the report recommends the development of a simpler and more efficient bus network that can serve more customers more efficiently.

    The report concludes that Dublin Bus has enough buses in its current fleet to service demand but it needs to use its fleet more efficiently.

    Dublin Bus should act now to:


    * Redesign its bus network based on most recent patterns of demand/demographics (i.e. bus demand patterns have changed dramatically as the city has changed but the bus network has not changed adequately to meet that demand).
    * Develop and market easy to understand routes and timetables.
    * Improve reliability and reduce “bunching” of buses by creating even headways between bus departures and introduce intermediate running times.
    * Provide additional direct routes into and out of the city/key places of employment/key retail centres (thus saving customers time).
    * Simplify the network and reduce the number of variations of bus routes.
    * Eliminate unnecessary duplication of services, maximising the return from deployed services.


    A detailed analysis by the consultants of the Finglas bus Corridor demonstrated how some changes by Dublin Bus to improve efficiencies on this route could deliver cost saving of €2.1m on that route alone.

    BUS ÉIREANN
    The report recommends that Bus Éireann should explore:

    * Further use of subcontracting to minimize costs
    * Opportunities to combine bus services from multiple organizations (schools, Rural Transport Programme, conventional bus services, HSE services etc. )


    GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS
    In addition to the company specific recommendations set out above, the report recommends the following:


    * Provide better customer information at bus stops and through the rollout of real time information for customers (like the DART and LUAS).
    * Accelerate bus priority programme and continue to eliminate bus “pinch points”.
    * Introduce a car free “Bus Gate” at College Green to facilitate bus movement.
    * Implement changes to the licensing regime and process.
    * Provide greater clarity around government subsidised transport objectives.


    Ends


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 551 ✭✭✭meanmachine3


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055479053
    see post 14 and please look at the attachment. it's a list of whats going to be cut.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Does that mean they're cutting one bus from the 40A route and all the rest are Euro's that are being cut??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 551 ✭✭✭meanmachine3


    Does that mean they're cutting one bus from the 40A route and all the rest are Euro's that are being cut??
    yep they're only cutting one bus of the 40/A. the euro's that are being cut are citywide, the other thing i should point out is where "others" is. this means there are 13 buses and 20 duties being cut. we dont know what routes they are being cut from.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭KC61


    It means that one bus from the fleet operating the 40/40A schedule is proposed to be withdrawn - so that's probably about 16 individual journeys on that route, given a journey running time of 50-60 minutes.

    The other buses are all EURO duties that operate peak time extra departures on a variety of routes.

    What you referred to in the original post is a completely different review that consultants did on services in the Finglas area. DB will be moving to do detailed work on this at a later stage and will no doubt come up with proposals eventually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Excuse my general ignorance but what exactly is a "Euro":confused:

    It a rush hour relief/addition yes? And why is it called a Euro?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭Heart


    Yes, its a peak time relief duty, its called a Euro because the buses used to introduced these duties came from money from the EU, around 1999/2000.


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