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Police State in Action

  • 16-02-2009 5:32pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭


    News report detailing the brutality and corruption of the police force in the land of the free.

    After making a 911 call a woman is arrested, held and stripped completely by men and women officers and left to lie naked on the floor for 6 hours.

    Here is the video;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ASXoWD0iaI


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    That is really harrowing, no matter what the person does I can't imagine the reasoning behind taking her clothes off with men around her even. If that was my loved one in that situation I'd be going to the highest court in the land for justice.

    What is their reasoning for this happening, the police?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    fcking cretins, just shows you the kind of moronic scum out there, following orders without thinking, humiliating others without thinking it could be them. Fck them. Just be thankful it was aired on a major news channel and that they didn't get away with it (completely).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    News report detailing the brutality and corruption of the police force in the land of the free.

    After making a 911 call a woman is arrested, held and stripped completely by men and women officers and left to lie naked on the floor for 6 hours.

    Here is the video;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ASXoWD0iaI

    Okay quick check is this woman able to launch a civil complaint and sue the police force?

    Is She able to publicise her mistreatment which leads to the righteous public outcry from her fellow citizens?

    If the answer to the both of the above is affirmative, well then sorry she doesn't live in a police state.

    I'm not belittling her mistreatment just your hyperbola.

    Perhaps if you should try and move to a real police state like Burma or Nth Korea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Nick_oliveri


    Yeah, Im missing what drove them to do this to a person as a collective. Stupid mobs with authority..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Diogenes wrote: »
    Perhaps if you should try and move to a real police state like Burma or Nth Korea.
    Or the United Kingdom.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1091448/Big-Brother-police-war-time-powers-demand-ID-street--pain-sending-jail.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Sofa_King Good


    Just watched the intro to lawless Ireland on TV3 or RTE and I can't get over the emotive, sensationalist scare mongering crap. If you took it seriously you'd be afraid to leave your house,

    Up until recently I've spent the most weekend nights in Dublin City Centre and its not that bad, certainly not the mad max scenario being made out.

    methinks it might be an attempt by the Gardai to not have their funding cut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    This seems like a topic for Humanities or elsewhere, in that the topic at hand is one of mistreatment at the hands of officials.

    Where is the Conspiracy here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    bonkey wrote: »
    This seems like a topic for Humanities or elsewhere, in that the topic at hand is one of mistreatment at the hands of officials.

    Where is the Conspiracy here?

    Just edit the title: "Big Brother" Police State in Action.!! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Witty, but still no conspiracy.

    We have an incident which occurred, and was reported on. Although not mentioned yet in the thread, it has been investigated, taken to court, and findings issued. There is a second (civil) case still pending.

    So we have an issue which appears to be a fairly harrowing, but localised event. We have exactly one county in the entire United States where we can draw reference to.

    We have freedom of the press to report on it, as well as a (possibly flawed) system which investigates it and issues judgement on it.

    So seriously...

    Where is the conspiracy?

    Are we trying to say "Isolated incident that can be reported on and investigated is evidence of a police state"?
    Or perhaps "Isolated incident to do mistreatment of citizens that can be reported on and investigated is evidence of a society which watches everything"?

    Or what?

    If you want to complain about the state of affairs in the US, UK, or any other government...seriously....go to Humanities or Politics.

    So I ask again. Where is the conspiracy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Sofa_King Good


    bonkey wrote: »

    So I ask again. Where is the conspiracy?

    This is just an example. Another would be the De Menezes murder in cold-blood whose killers had been briefed by Israeli homeland security to shoot in the head for instant death.

    The conspiracy would be the training of the police force to create a siege mentality where they see themselves as enemies not protectors.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    This is just an example. Another would be the De Menezes murder in cold-blood whose killers had been briefed by Israeli homeland security to shoot in the head for instant death.

    Police agencies around the world are trained to aim for the main body mass, the torso.

    The reason why Israeli (hey gotta shoe horn blaming the jews into there now don't we SKG) was advised and has specialists who advocate head shots, is that Israeli security forces deal with terrorist suicide bombers more than any nation on earth (aside from Afghanistan and Iraq) because if someone is wearing a bomb under their jacket a shot to the body could detonate the bomb.

    I cannot fathom for the life of me why you interjected the fact that the police services had Israeli training. Are you saying that the Israeli's don't deal wit suicide bombers regularly? That a police force shouldnt look to outside forces for specialist training? That De Mendes would be alive if they shot if 9 times in the chest at point blank range?


    The conspiracy would be the training of the police force to create a siege mentality where they see themselves as enemies not protectors.

    What? Seriously What? Police forces contain both good and bad eggs.Your argument is we train police to hate us. This is utterly absurd. Particularly in reference to De Mendes, in that instance it was a specific squad acting out of specific intelligence (incorrect intelligence) that had specific orders. In your OP the police force are receiving international scrutiny based, on video the police themselves shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    How many threads is that now? you know the ones that claim to show a police state in action but do no such thing. And that's not to take away from what a bunch of assholes those cops were.


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