Confusing signage on Victoria Quay, Dublin

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I've a question I've been meaning to ask here but have never got round to doing so. Towards the end of Victoria Quay (Dublin) as you pass the entrance to Guinness's and approach the traffic lights at Heuston, there is a large "N7" road marking painted on the roadway. What confuses me is that this road is the N4 and I can't figure out what the connection is with the N7, if there is one. Is this just a c%ock up? I have an image attached which shows said N7 road marking. It's visible towards the top of the image and is very clearly a 7.
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=swqzt2gg86r7&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=29506950&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1
Oh, apologies for the thread title reading "Confusing signage on Victoria". It should read "Confusing signage on Victoria Quay, Dublin"

a_ominous

I believe the N7 starts Inchicore / Bluebell. To get to it from city centre, you have to travel a few other roads first.
I believe the signs direct N7 traffic from city centre to N7 via N4 (St. John's Road West, Con Colbert Road and Chapelizod Bypass) then south on M50 to Red Cow. This is all dual carriageway road.
Older, alternative route via Kilmainham is single carriageway out as far as Kylemore Road (just past Bluebell)

Colm R

The N7 starts at the Red Cow. I believe its the only one (N1 to N11) which does not start inside the M50. Obviosly apart from N5,6,8,9 and 10.

As for the markings on the ground, just a cock up

Taxipete29

Its not really a cock up as it does direct you towards the N7 if you follow the other signs further up, but I can see how it confuses people. I have lost count the number of times i have been in either the Esso on the Chapelizod by-pass or in the Foxhunter garage when cars have pulled up to me looking for the N7. Its far easier to direct them now with the new road which runs up through Grange Castle.

icdg

Colm R wrote: »

The N7 starts at the Red Cow. I believe its the only one (N1 to N11) which does not start inside the M50. Obviosly apart from N5,6,8,9 and 10.

Yes. But this wasn't originally the case. From 1977 to 1994 the original route went through Inchicore, but before that, went along the south quays. So "N7" may have been correct at the time it was painted, though strictly it should have read "N4 N7". Even today, this is the route you should take to get to the N7 from the city centre, though I reckon they should have signs "Use N4 and M50 for N7" along the Chapelizod Bypass and "Use M50 for N7" approaching the M50, like they do at some M25 junctions for some situations in London.

The original route up to the Red Cow:


N 7 Dublin-Limerick
Between its junction with N 4 at Rory O'More Bridge in the county borough of Dublin and its junction with N 18, N 20 and N 24 at the junction of O'Connell Street with William Street in the county borough of Limerick via Rory O'More Bridge, Victoria Quay, Kingsbridge, St. John's Road West, South Circular Road, Inchicore Road, (and via Bothar Coilbeard, Ushers' Island), Tyrconnell Road and Naas Road in the county borough of Dublin:

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1977/en/si/0164.html

Wishbone Ash

I'd agree that it may be left over from the pre M50 days when the majority of traffic would have been looking for the N7.

Wishbone Ash

Colm R wrote: »

The N7 starts at the Red Cow

But 'Cork' doesn't begin until a few miles north of Mitchelstown yet we have signs for 'Cork' in Dublin!

corktina

the convention in the UK (which is followed quite rigidly in my experiance) would be to put that route number in brackets to indicate you arent on it yet but this is the way you should go to get to it. Unfortunately our road signage usage is anything but rigid