Trolleys allowed as Hand Luggage?

mumof2

With Ryanair last year, I was flying from Stansted and I noticed at the security point they wern't allowing trolley cases as hand luggage!! Yet further down the line, another guy on security let a group of girls through who had trolleys as well. I just had a back pack, but this time id like to bring something that will hold more.

Anyone any recent experiences?

biko

Did you read Ryans policy?

spurious

The cabin baggage size for Ryanair is actually very small.

55cm x 40cm x 20cm

I presumed a small sports bag I have not unlike this would qualify, but it's slightly outside the 20cm limit, though well within the 55cm one.

However, knowing how Ryanair operate, I'm going to take a smaller bag that is well within all of the limits. The 10kg issue doesn't come into it. I would rarely take that much luggage and certainly not in hand baggage.

mikedragon32

Flew back from LBA last night on Ryanair. Trolly cases galore on board!

mumof2

biko wrote: »

Did you read Ryans policy?

Yep, thats where I started, but I don't trust policies, as rules are always broken!:D

mumof2

biko wrote: »

Did you read Ryans policy?

Were they stored in the overhead bins? It surprises me that Ryanair allowed them onboard actually!!:eek:

RATM

Now that theyve jacked up the price of checking in bags and a lot of peeps are doing the carry on thing I can see Ryanair cracking down big time on what is and isn't carry on luggage. This will be their latest revenue stream.

Already saw it a few weeks ago in Bristol where they had a credit card machine and weighing scales at the gate:eek:
Lots of furious women were far from impressed when they had to pay €30 for their handbag cause it would fit in their carry on luggage. Duty free goes into the same category.

Incidentally the Afternoon Show did a case study of extra charges on airlines last week. It involved 2 Adults checking 2 bags, 1 infant, 1 buggy, 1 baby seat.
It ignored the actual flight prices as they constantly fluctuate. Just took account of the extra charges for a return flight Dublin-London.

Aer Lingus €68
Aer Aran €48
Ryanair ( 'Europes Low Cost Airline' ) €200

Bluetonic

RATM wrote: »

Incidentally the Afternoon Show did a case study of extra charges on airlines last week. It involved 2 Adults checking 2 bags, 1 infant, 1 buggy, 1 baby seat.
It ignored the actual flight prices as they constantly fluctuate. Just took account of the extra charges for a return flight Dublin-London.

Aer Lingus €68
Aer Aran €48
Ryanair ( 'Europes Low Cost Airline' ) €200

Would love to see where they got 200 euro from.

It involved 2 Adults checking 2 bags, 1 infant, 1 buggy, 1 baby seat.

Two adults checking 2 bags = 10 euro * 2
One buggy = carried free
One baby seat = 10 euro
Two adult and one infant check in = 5 euro * 3
Infant charge = 20 euro

Total one way is 65 euro, so 130 euro for a return trip.

Where is the extra 35 euro per flight coming from?

mumof2

Theyre a nuiscance!! I mean a woman has a handbag and then a travel bag. Thats normal, so why cant they allow that on board? Just as well I'm only going for 3 nights not a week!:rolleyes:


Would it be to pay for priority boarding by any chance?? I think its so stupid - why can't they just allocate seat numbers, wouldn't it make more sense?

robinph

Didn't this thread start off as being about Stanstead airport and them being anal about the one bag rule due to "security" reasons and probably considering the wheels on the bag as beinng some sort of terrorist device?

How did it become about Ryanair being rightly more strict on the amount of hand luggage that they allow people on the plane with?

Ryanair do not operate the security checkpoint and have nothing to do with what is or isn't allowed through to the airside of any airport.

mumof2

robinph wrote: »

Didn't this thread start off as being about Stanstead airport and them being anal about the one bag rule due to "security" reasons and probably considering the wheels on the bag as beinng some sort of terrorist device?

How did it become about Ryanair being rightly more strict on the amount of hand luggage that they allow people on the plane with?

Ryanair do not operate the security checkpoint and have nothing to do with what is or isn't allowed through to the airside of any airport.

Point taken:eek:

I value peoples opinions:D Thank you. Thats all for today folks:pac:

Red Sleeping Beauty

The sooner people realise the real cost of travelling with Crimeair the better.
AerLingus are more hand luggage friendly.

robinph

alan dunne 27 wrote: »

AerLingus are more hand luggage friendly.

Huh?!?

Not quite sure where you get that idea from.

Aer Lingus wrote:

# Cabin baggage is restricted to 1 piece per passenger, weighing less than 6 kgs/13 lbs in total, and must fit in the overhead bin or under your seat. Cabin baggage limits are strictly enforced.

Ryanair wrote:

Handbag, briefcase, laptops, etc must be carried within your permitted 1 piece of cabin baggage. It should weigh no more than 10kg and not exceed the maximum dimensions of 55cm x 40cm x 20cm.

Think Ryanair is clearly much more preferable if your traveling with carry on bags only.

Red Sleeping Beauty

Aer Lingus aren't stopping you as you get on the plane and charging you thirty Euros for a plastic bag!

robinph

But they are perfectly entitled to do so for a bag about half the weight of one that Ryanair will let you on with.

Also it is only actually the seperate ground handling agents in UK airports that I've seen being so picky about the Ryanair rules so far, never enounterd them checking to the same extent in Dublin where there is actually Ryanairs own staff manning the gates.

Red Sleeping Beauty

Check in online and you don't have to see any airline staff until you are boarding.
I'd assume that it's feasable that they can refuse you boarding for a hand luggage violation maybe ? Still, if they tried it with me I'd want a measuring tape and weighing scales there along with a full letter explaining that I'm being refused boarding.

I've recently seen a chap get on an IE flight with a guitar as hand luggage - doesn't bother me one bit as there's plenty of room and the flight's only Dub-Glasgow

spurious

Just arrived back from Kerry with Ryanair and no-one was checking bags.

One person did however, vomit into the back of the head of a person in the next row, so the flight wasn't without incident.

Berty

On a flight to Italy recently the Italians could not be ar*ed checking any suitcases in. Most of them did not fit in the overheads and all overheads were full. The steward was dragging suitcases up and down the aisle putting them in the hold for FREE. Cheeky sunglass wearing italians.

Hint: Get somebody to drive you to the airport and get them to hold your trolley bag outside the door so after you check in get your bag and then head to the aircraft. Always worked a treat but in Australia they are very strict. Had to pay. Nuts :mad:

mumof2

Has anyone actually gone through with a trolley/bag slightly outside the dimensions allowed?

Eg Instead of the allowed 55cm x 40cm x 20cm I have a trolley which is (including wheels) 60cm x 35cm x 20cm.

I'm going with 2 kids and don't need the added stress of being told I can't bring it on. Considering the sports bag but akward, and need to check the size but im sure its too long.

Anyone?

fifib

flew back from stansted sunday night, full flight and id say good 70% of it had trolley bags. the air hostess had her work cut out trying to fit them all in the over head compartments. she was up and down the aisle like a yo yo trying to find space for them. people at the back ended up having their bags stored down the very front. it delayed our flight too..we were all sat down and buckled up and they were still running up n down the aisles with hand luggage! wudnt be surprised it the hand luggage size will be decreased so these bags cant be brought on board!

mumof2

I might go and see if I can buy a case that has the wheels 'in' the case rather than protruding as this will make a difference in size.

Red Sleeping Beauty

mumof2 wrote: »

Has anyone actually gone through with a trolley/bag slightly outside the dimensions allowed?

Eg Instead of the allowed 55cm x 40cm x 20cm I have a trolley which is (including wheels) 60cm x 35cm x 20cm.

I'm going with 2 kids and don't need the added stress of being told I can't bring it on. Considering the sports bag but akward, and need to check the size but im sure its too long.

Anyone?

You a mother with kids... if anyone gives you grief just look em in the eye and say "i'm getting on the f'n plane!!!"

In all seriousness... there has to be a bit of leway with this . I've never seen anyone have their bags measured.

mumof2

Alan Rouge wrote: »

You a mother with kids... if anyone gives you grief just look em in the eye and say "i'm getting on the f'n plane!!!"

In all seriousness... there has to be a bit of leway with this . I've never seen anyone have their bags measured.

:D:D I like the bit about the 'mother with kids' and what one can do when stressed ha ha:pac::pac:

Seriousely, in Stansted last year I had to go back to check in to check in my bag, which the attendant had placed into this metal thing to check the size, and it wouldn't fit comfortably so he sent me there. Check in looked at the bag and said it was fine!! Back I went (after taking out books, and putting on an extra layer of clothes!!:D) and it went fine, but don't need that added stress when I have the kids with me as well.

Im going to look for the mini trolleys and see what I can fit into them.:(

Red Sleeping Beauty

I just measured two bags that look oversized (as in too big for hand luggage) and they're just about within the limits on Aer Lingus' website. I think they say about 56cm long and I've two cases in front of me that are just over 56cm.

I'd say "here, get me a measuring tape and I'll show you it's within your limits".

Btw, who was putting your bag into the metal yoke ? Was it Ryanair staff at the gate ? That's a pretty rotten thing to do if you're trying to board the plane and then someone says "no, you're not getting on cause you're bag's an inch to big.

mumof2

Alan Rouge wrote: »

I just measured two bags that look oversized (as in too big for hand luggage) and they're just about within the limits on Aer Lingus' website. I think they say about 56cm long and I've two cases in front of me that are just over 56cm.

I'd say "here, get me a measuring tape and I'll show you it's within your limits".

Btw, who was putting your bag into the metal yoke ? Was it Ryanair staff at the gate ? That's a pretty rotten thing to do if you're trying to board the plane and then someone says "no, you're not getting on cause you're bag's an inch to big.

I don't know if it was staff of Ryanair, I doubt it actually, as it was before the gate - it was as you are by the check in desks, which I could bypass with online check in............but this guy organising people and which direction they need to go in asked me to put it into the metal thing.

I have borrowed a trolley case which is exactly the right measurements!! So they are going to get an earful if they hassle me:D:D

fifib

yea stansted are the worst. I got stopped there before and not by Ryanair when i was checking in but by security at the gates. i had my little wheelie case with me but i had the expander open on it cos id thrown my coat in it and it was very bulky. he put it into the holder thing...was a tight squeeze and said id have to check it in. so i opened it up and took out my coat and told him to try again! i had only just put it in when queuing cos the queue was crazy and the heat was mental.

mumof2

Got a trolley case today exact measurements as allowed and printed on the email, which I will have with me along with my measuring tape. Three of us are bringing them now so it should be fun!!:D:D

As long as we don't overstuff them, they can't say anything.:)

Red Sleeping Beauty

fifib wrote: »

yea stansted are the worst. I got stopped there before and not by Ryanair when i was checking in but by security at the gates. i had my little wheelie case with me but i had the expander open on it cos id thrown my coat in it and it was very bulky. he put it into the holder thing...was a tight squeeze and said id have to check it in. so i opened it up and took out my coat and told him to try again! i had only just put it in when queuing cos the queue was crazy and the heat was mental.

I don't know what jurisdiction them security staff have because it's Ryanair you're flying with, it's their plane and their rules I'd have thought ?

I've heard of Glasgow Prestwick security staff making people put their bag in one of them "holder things" . I'd refuse.

mumof2

Alan Rouge wrote: »

I don't know what jurisdiction them security staff have because it's Ryanair you're flying with, it's their plane and their rules I'd have thought ?

I've heard of Glasgow Prestwick security staff making people put their bag in one of them "holder things" . I'd refuse.

And risk not being allowed to board??:eek:

Fratton Fred

Bluetonic wrote: »

Would love to see where they got 200 euro from.

Two adults checking 2 bags = 10 euro * 2
One buggy = carried free
One baby seat = 10 euro
Two adult and one infant check in = 5 euro * 3
Infant charge = 20 euro

Total one way is 65 euro, so 130 euro for a return trip.

Where is the extra 35 euro per flight coming from?

If the suitcases were over the measly 15 kilos it would soon add up. I paid £95 in excess baggae coming back from Gatwick once. That is after paying to check bags in so £115 one way.

The only time I have seen those metal bag size things used is by boarding gate staff who are stopping someone who is frankly taking the piss. I don't think they are too bothered about the odd centimetre here or there, but some people try getting on with suitcases they have touble carrying.