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Most trustworthy paper

  • 13-02-2009 2:08pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭


    There is so much rubbish published as trustworthy news in some papers, so what newspaper do you think would be classed as the least trashy with the most trustworthy journalism.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I have started reading The Guardian recently and i enjoy it,look forward to it every day!:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    The Daily Mail without a doubt. :D



    (Seriousl the Irish Times, FT and UK times)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Stargal


    The New York Times, the Guardian and the Irish Times, in that order. Wouldn't trust a word in the Irish or Sunday Independent unless I'd read it somewhere else first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    I would take a lot of what I read with an air of cynicsm, reminding myself of what agenda the paper has in mind.

    While I do read The Orish Sunday Times, they are very anti-Europe, so I take anything they write on that subject with a wheelbarrow of Sodium Chloride.

    The Sunday Business Post is generally trustworthy, as is the Irish Times.

    Wasn't there a number of stories in the NYT shown to be works of fantasy over the past number of years?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭luckat


    What rubbish is published as trustworthy news?

    I scan the Irish Times' front page and read a couple of articles each day, but for strong news - and especially business - coverage I tend to go to the Irish Independent.

    Wouldn't read the Sunday Independent; too unpleasant.

    The Sunday Business Post is strong on both news and business.

    RTE Radio 1's news and news focus programmes are also strong. Their documentaries are good, but not very often about current issues.

    Newstalk used to be good a couple of years ago, but seems to have gone off, though it's doing some excellent documentaries, mostly on foreign issues.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭gerky


    luckat wrote: »
    What rubbish is published as trustworthy news?

    Well the main papers that would spring to mind are the red tops, daily mail ect... they never seem to let the truth get in the way of a juicy story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭J.S. Pill


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    I would take a lot of what I read with an air of cynicsm, reminding myself of what agenda the paper has in mind.

    While I do read The Orish Sunday Times, they are very anti-Europe, so I take anything they write on that subject with a wheelbarrow of Sodium Chloride.

    I wouldn't really trust anything I read in the Irish Times on Europe as they are overly Euro-philic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    None of the above especially the daily mail.

    The Irish Examiner or the Sunday Business post. The best papers on the planet and un biased.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    I would take a lot of what I read with an air of cynicsm, reminding myself of what agenda the paper has in mind.
    This is entirely true, every paper has some agenda of sorts no none can really be said to be entirely objective.
    The Irish Times & The Sunday Business Post get my vote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭shepthedog


    You should read "Flat Earth News" by Nick Davies.. It will give you a indepth look at what papers actually do to get a story.. Excellent chapters on the Sunday Times, Observer and Daily Mail...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    Private Eye and The Phoenix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭GSF


    The Sunday Business Post for press releases from businesses. The Irish Times for government press releases. The Independent and to a lesser extent The Examiner break most of the news. Remember breaking news is messy, sometimes you get things wrong. Easier to sit on the high moral ground than get your hands dirty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    Another vote for Private Eye. Phoenix could never really match it for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 hughs


    GSF wrote: »
    The Independent and to a lesser extent The Examiner break most of the news. Remember breaking news is messy, sometimes you get things wrong. Easier to sit on the high moral ground than get your hands dirty.

    What planet are you living on? The Independent's breaking news is terrible. When they have breaking news, 9 times out of 10 they have no foundations for their stories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    Sean_K wrote: »
    Another vote for Private Eye. Phoenix could never really match it for me.


    True, but it's the closest we have to investigative journalism. There was an article in the current issue about the Indo and Sindo about the how and why of it's change in attitude towards Brian Cowen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    The Guardian has a degree of credibility in my opinion. I read some of their story on the Tax Gap in the UK there a few weeks ago and it was brave and interesting journalism.

    Do all the (good/half decent) newsagents in Dublin do the Guardian ? I only get it when in Scotland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭burgess1


    Do all the (good/half decent) newsagents in Dublin do the Guardian?

    Yes, most of them do.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Sean_K wrote: »
    Another vote for Private Eye. Phoenix could never really match it for me.

    Since when have Private Eye been producing an Irish edition? Or may the Phoenix publishes a UK edition? No? Then the two are hardly comparable on any meaningful level, unless your a little less vague that is.

    I find the same nonsense coming from people who live here but buy the Guardian / Indy / etc as their first or only paper. Sure, buy it for their features or international news, or sport etc. But you're missing a hell of a lot of Irish news which isn't covered in the broadcast media.
    GSF wrote: »
    The Sunday Business Post for press releases from businesses. The Irish Times for government press releases.

    In the Business Post's case, care to explain their coverage, for example, of businesses closing which are not covered by press releases (and I mean before the down turn too)?

    As for the Irish Times, you do know the paper is very much so viewed as anti-FF?
    The Independent and to a lesser extent The Examiner break most of the news.

    The Irish Independent? The same paper which shamelessly nicks the Post's and the Times' polls and splashes them on its front page?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    monument wrote: »
    Since when have Private Eye been producing an Irish edition? Or may the Phoenix publishes a UK edition? No? Then the two are hardly comparable on any meaningful level, unless your a little less vague that is.
    Have a peek again at the OP. Nowhere does it specify that the thread must be restricted to Irish papers.

    The Phoenix is comparable to the Eye since functionally it is complete rip-off and to be blunt, it's just not as good IMO.

    Ethically and morally, the Eye is beyond reproach. It's impeccably researched. They have no political allegiance. Frankly I haven't seen an Irish publication which comes close.


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