Who Was The Best To Never Win A World Title?

golfguy

Who Was The Best To Never Win A World Title in wwe,wcw,ecw,tna

chopperbyrne

Ted DiBiase

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Turd Ferguson

Good thread. Personally I think Curt Henning and Roddy Piper.
I know Piper won the WCW title but that doesnt count Neither had won the title while at the peak of their careers and both of them could have easily carried the WWF had they been given the oppertunity in the 80's/90's

golfguy

jr or sr

big syke

Best Wreslter as far as ability goes imo is Owen Hart

Kid Nothing

I'd assume he meant Sr.!

I'm gonna say Owen Hart but that's a specific circumstance.

Rick Rude, Arn Anderson, Scott Hall

Dancor

Lance Storm

twilight_singer

Rick 'The Model' Martell

turnbuckle

sorry to cut in on a thread, new to boards.ie.

i was going to say jake the snake but didnt read that it inculded WCW

Deedsie

Roddy Piper, definitely should have held the WWF championship. Was Jake the snake ever Champ?

turnbuckle

jake the snake won the wcw tv title back in the day.

JP Liz

Owen Hart

Has Tommy Dreamer ever held the ECW title? I'm not sure

Fozzy

JP Liz wrote: »

Has Tommy Dreamer ever held the ECW title? I'm not sure

He has. He doesn't deserve a mention in this thread though!

Brian Pillman does

Bubs101

Ricky Steamboat

JP Liz wrote: »

Has Tommy Dreamer ever held the ECW title? I'm not sure

For a few minutes but no proper reign. Also did Ted not buy the title off Andre?

big syke

Bubs101 wrote: »

Ricky Steamboat



For a few minutes but no proper reign. Also did Ted not buy the title off Andre?

no andre handed it to him after "beating" hogan, but wwe didnt accept it as a win and made the title it vacant.

Sunset V

Owen, Perfect, Did Hall ever win one??

Slightly away from the point but I think there's a couple in the present roster that will never win one and that'll be quite the shame.

turnbuckle

scott hall never won a major title!

newballsplease

Sunset V wrote: »

Owen, Perfect, Did Hall ever win one??

Slightly away from the point but I think there's a couple in the present roster that will never win one and that'll be quite the shame.

like who?

Sunset V

newballsplease wrote: »

like who?

Presently, MVP looks a LONG way from winning a title and if he doesn't win one it would be a shame. John Morrison is another one. I have absolutely no basis for an argument but it's just a feeling, which, looking at it isn't a strong argument at all!!:pac:

a-hole

morrison was ecw champ

chopperbyrne

a-hole wrote: »

morrison was ecw champ

Which is the equivalent of the old WCW TV Title.

gimmick

Sunset V wrote: »

Presently, MVP looks a LONG way from winning a title and if he doesn't win one it would be a shame. John Morrison is another one.

They both have lon g long careers ahead of them if they keep themselves in order.

Curt Hennig for me is the bets never to carry a WORLD title in WWE. He had the whole package.

Ted DiBiase as already mentioned was disgracefully held down by Hogan.

Ricky Steamboat, who did hold the World Title in NWA nevr rose above IC conteendership in WWE despite being a high flying innovator and an excellent wrestler to boot.

Golfguy, what is your opinion on this, or are you not going to bother this time either?

golfguy

what about dave finley working for wcw and wwe never got anything more than the us title

Kid Nothing

golfguy wrote: »

what about dave finley working for wcw and wwe never got anything more than the us title

Was thinking this myself, but you couldn't really call him great

golfguy

but he is a good worker

Bubs101

he's a good worker but he has little charisma and is bad at promos. Overall there are alot more deserving candidates

Kid Nothing

don't get me wrong, he's a great worker and has trained a lot of wrestlers including numerous divas and has been great for the business in general but as an in ring performer considering him to be one of the BEST to never win a world title doesn't stand up in my book.

Just my opinion but he's nowhere near the level of Piper, Owen or Steamboat

grames_bond

turnbuckle wrote: »

scott hall never won a major title!

scott hall, hands down the best champion that never was!

citytillidie

Mr Perfect

Bounty Hunter

citytillidie wrote: »

Mr Perfect

(kinda crossing over into the other thread here but...)

I think Mr Perfect being considerd one of the best to have never won a World title could actually help his son in his future WWE career, they might see giving him a strap in the future as also a nod to his family (his old man ) possibly.

callaway92

X-Pac

golfguy

callaway92 wrote: »

X-Pac

wtf next thing you no it will be jimmy wing ying

Adiboo

+1 on Lance Storm

I mark big time for him

Kid Nothing

yeah Lance Storm is a decent shout but X-pac

Bubs101

amull87 wrote: »

yeah Lance Storm is a decent shout but X-pac

When HBK left X-Pac was effectively second in command for D-X making him one of the biggest draws in the company. He was the first one to jump ship so Vince should have liked him. A member of the Clique so he had backstage clout. Great entrance music. Unique move set. Won everything else and was super over before the term X-Pac heat was invented. He's one of the reasons I woke up every sunday morning early. Loved X-Pac

Kid Nothing

Fair enough Bubs agree with all of that but I would never ever have considered him for a World Title reign, in fairness he probably had some of the greatest of all time in front of him (Austin, Rock, HHH) which may have been a factor but he just isn't up there with Piper, Owen, etc imo.

Cactus Col

I'm actually slightly agree with bubs on x-pac. He was pretty dang over, and would've made at least a decent transitional champ. Certainly I could see him as having had a better reign than rey mysterio.
I remember seeing x-pac take on the rock for the world championship on capital carnage, the crowd was really hot for it.

The Bull

Dean Malenko

In the WWF, he was a 2-time Light Heavyweight Champion.
In WCW, he was a 1-time United States Heavyweight Champion, a 4-time Cruiserweight Champion and a 1-time World Tag Team Champion.
In ECW, he was a 2-time Television Champion and a 1-time Tag Team Champion.

Def worth a mention but maybe he was a bit small, but was not rey mestrieo a small light wrester who became the World heavyweight champion.

Kid Nothing

Yeah but as good as Malenko was, his promo's were like watching paint dry!

nhughes100

Showing my age but both Rick Steamboat and Curt Hennig won world titles. Rick beat Flair in 89 for the old NWA championship and Hennig beat Nick BockWinkel around 88 for the AWA title. I gotta go with Rick Rude, had some great matches with the warrior. Dibiase was great too but just wasn't over enough in ring at the stage of his career when he was in WWF.

gimmick

If the light heavyweight or cruiserweight division was made more legit 10 years ago, they could ahev made big starts out of the likes of Taka, Malenko, X Pac.

That said, Mysterio got over the hurdle of size.

The Bull

amull87 wrote: »

Yeah but as good as Malenko was, his promo's were like watching paint dry!

Maybe true but he was techinlly a great wrestle, The man with a 1000 moves:eek:

Bubs101

Malenko was one of the best technichal guys but he had absolutely no charisma and a terrible physique so I would never consider him as champion material

chopperbyrne

nhughes100 wrote: »

Dibiase was great too but just wasn't over enough in ring at the stage of his career when he was in WWF.

He was probably the most over heel in the company at the time.

gimmick

^ No probably about it. The heat he had around WM4 was unreal.

nhughes100

Heat - Bigtime but out of the ring, in the ring his matches around WM4 time weren't World title class.

jossnjuice

all my choices have been mentioned, perfect piper and dibiase, and on the subject of morrison, that dude deserves a proper high profile push, some belt on raw or even the IC belt to get him properly in the picture.

deanodrummer

Ted DiBiase is an obvious choice.

Curt Hennig, excellent wrestler, good character, good on the mic.

Rick Rude, super hot heel at one stage.

Piper. Argument there that he didn't need it anyways.

Rick Martel is a good choice but I dont think he could have carried it, charcter-wise.

rossie1977

nhughes100 wrote: »

Heat - Bigtime but out of the ring, in the ring his matches around WM4 time weren't World title class.

but hogans were :cool:

wwf in the 1980s wasn't about putting on good matches as it is more geared towards today, they were world class wrestlers in the company at the time who if booked together could put on amazing matches e.g. savage/steamboat, but for the most part the main event/top level matches in wwf at the time were slow, lumbering guys in the ring with each other, many of those world title matches were hard to watch (hogan/andre, hogan/studd, studd/andre, hogan/bundy)

obviously dibiase, hennig, piper, rude et al are top of the pile but andre should get a mention, he was the most over wrestler in the world in the 1970s

JokerD

What about Jerry 'The King' Lawler? Don't think he ever won any World Heavyweightweight Championships in any of the companies the OP mentioned. Unless the AWA counts

slicus ricus

In my opinion, Curt Hennig was the best never to win the WWE/WCW World title. He did win the AWA world title though. I reckon he was a better all round wrestler/ entertainer than a lot of guys who did win the title. The guy had everything you need to be a pro wrestler! I think the injuries he had in the early 90s were a big factor in him not winning the WWE strap.

After Hennig, I would put Ted Dibiase, Rick Rude, Jake Roberts, Owen Hart, Jerry Lawlor (who like Hennig was AWA champ) and someone nobody seems to have mentioned - Dynamite Kid. In his day, he was class, an inovator of pro wrestling if ever there was one.