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UK Cops test next generation "X-Net" stinger that will make total sh*t of your car.

  • 12-02-2009 1:50am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    A high-tech net which is thrown into the path of cars to bring them to a halt almost immediately is being tested by British police forces.

    The X-Net is a spiked web which wraps itself around a car's wheels and axles, puncturing the tires and stopping the vehicle within 80 yards. One thing for sure, it will make absolute sh*t of your car. :eek:

    These are currently used by US military forces in Iraq & Afghanistan to stop suicide bombers. Watch the video :eek:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1141022/Police-test-hi-tech-spiked-nets-stop-cars-tracks.html


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Yeah, I heard the ANPR-equipped cars will have this device, and use it to stop untaxed cars. :rolleyes:

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    I was expecting something far more impressive, like sticking a bar through the front spokes of a motorbike at 100mph type thing:D

    Effective none the less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Oh no! Now the next time some perfectly law abiding citizen is - for some reason - in a high speed chase with the police they might, heaven forfend, damage their car...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    A high-tech net which is thrown into the path of cars to bring them to a halt almost immediately is being tested by British police forces.

    The X-Net is a spiked web which wraps itself around a car's wheels and axles, puncturing the tires and stopping the vehicle within 80 yards. One thing for sure, it will make absolute sh*t of your car. :eek:

    These are currently used by US military forces in Iraq & Afghanistan to stop suicide bombers. Watch the video :eek:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1141022/Police-test-hi-tech-spiked-nets-stop-cars-tracks.html

    judging by your comments and shocked faces :eek: , you must have many a chases with the old police....:D:D
    but for us normal law abiding joe soaps, it is a great device, I don't care if it makes sh*t of cars of people being chased....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,712 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    Still won't stop people just driving around them - about 90% of the time I've seen stingers deployed on Traffic Wars and Traffic Cops etc. the scum just drive on the footpath / central reservation / other side of the road to avoid them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    robtri wrote: »
    judging by your comments and shocked faces :eek: , you must have many a chases with the old police....:D:D
    but for us normal law abiding joe soaps, it is a great device, I don't care if it makes sh*t of cars of people being chased....

    But what if its someone else's car that's been stolen?

    Scummers have tried to steal my Evo a few times on me. I wouldn't like that to happen to my car in order to catch them so as that they can get 2 months in prison and not have to pay to repair the damage done to my car.

    just my 2 cents

    Its a good device for "stop at all costs" situations but not for regular use.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    esel wrote: »
    Yeah, I heard the ANPR-equipped cars will have this device, and use it to stop untaxed cars. :rolleyes:
    Yes if the DVLA can crush a motor tax offenders car I am quite sure they wouldn't think twice of deploying one of these against an offender who tries to do a runner after an on-board ANPR picks them up.
    grahambo wrote: »
    But what if its someone else's car that's been stolen?

    Scummers have tried to steal my Evo a few times on me. I wouldn't like that to happen to my car in order to catch them so as that they can get 2 months in prison and not have to pay to repair the damage done to my car.

    just my 2 cents

    Its a good device for "stop at all costs" situations but not for regular use.
    It would be better to find your car with a snapped drive shaft, a few destroyed panels and the basta*rds caught than to find it burnt out. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Yes if the DVLA can crush a persistent tax offenders car I am quite sure they wouldn't think twice of deploying one of these against an offender who tries to do a runner after an on-board ANPR picks them up.


    Who cares if they do use it on people with no tax. Why would you involve yourself in a chase with police over somethign like out of date tax? YOur an idiot if you do.
    grahambo wrote: »
    But what if its someone else's car that's been stolen?

    Scummers have tried to steal my Evo a few times on me. I wouldn't like that to happen to my car in order to catch them so as that they can get 2 months in prison and not have to pay to repair the damage done to my car.

    .

    If they do suceed in stealing that car I doubt you'll be seeing it again, in one piece at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    'The nets take fewer than 20 seconds to deploy and cause minimal damage to the vehicle it is used on."

    Do you ever bother to read the ****e you post RTDH?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Who cares if they do use it on people with no tax. Why would you involve yourself in a chase with police over somethign like out of date tax? YOur an idiot if you do. .
    Not necessarly, errors have been made, I also point out that the ANPR system used to track motorists is also wide open to error. The UK authorities are now using "average speed" ANPR cameras many of them with live access so the car in question may not necessarly be on the run.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Not necessarly, errors have been made, I also point out that the ANPR system used to track motorists is also wide open to error. .

    How would an error on the ANPR sytem force a motorist to flee from police when they try to pull them over? ane then keep runnign long enough for the police to decide to use and then deploy the stinger?

    The UK authorities are now using "average speed" ANPR cameras many of them with live access so the car in question may not necessarly be on the run.

    How many times have cops anywhere used a stinger as the first method of stopping a car?

    Ciaran500 wrote: »
    'The nets take fewer than 20 seconds to deploy and cause minimal damage to the vehicle it is used on."

    Do you ever bother to read the ****e you post RTDH?

    Pah, it's much easier to say it pulls the axels clean off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    grahambo wrote: »
    But what if its someone else's car that's been stolen?

    Scummers have tried to steal my Evo a few times on me. I wouldn't like that to happen to my car in order to catch them so as that they can get 2 months in prison and not have to pay to repair the damage done to my car.

    just my 2 cents

    Its a good device for "stop at all costs" situations but not for regular use.

    sorry to disagree with you, but if your Evo got stolen by scumbags, I say use the net and sorry if it fecks your car, but its better than letting these scummers drive crazily around and risk crashing into somebody and killing them... cars are replacable... people are not....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Ciaran500 wrote: »
    'The nets take fewer than 20 seconds to deploy and cause minimal damage to the vehicle it is used on."

    Do you ever bother to read the ****e you post RTDH?
    Thats their word they will tell you the same about motorcyclists hitting cable barriers. :rolleyes:

    Would you try them on your car. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    Thats their word, :rolleyes: Would you try them on your car. :D

    well their word is more reliable then yours since they have tested and used the device and you have never laid eyes on one yet alone tested it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    RTDH's posting style is to come up with some minor article about improvements in information technology, policing equipment, etc, and then add a sprinkling of tabloidism, and general false and wild assumptions. Every thread this guy has started in the last 2 months generally goes like this :

    Something new has been developed.
    It's really really bad even though it's actually quite good.
    Big brother is watching us.
    We won't know what's happening until it's too late.
    The end.
    Ps. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

    Wouldn't be getting worked up about it fellas, it's just his way, and generally adds to the cocktail of boards posters and interests.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    ned78 wrote: »
    RTDH's posting style is to come up with some minor article about improvements in information technology, policing equipment, etc, and then add a sprinkling of tabloidism, and general false and wild assumptions. Every thread this guy has started in the last 2 months generally goes like this :

    Something new has been developed.
    It's really really bad even though it's actually quite good.
    Big brother is watching us.
    We won't know what's happening until it's too late.
    The end.
    Ps. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

    Wouldn't be getting worked up about it fellas, it's just his way, and generally adds to the cocktail of boards posters and interests.
    Others like Ned 78 have their head stuck in the sand and cannot see the potential threat of losing civil liberties and privacy with all this wonderful new digital track & trace technology rolled out. (Of which most of my posts would concern)

    And not all my material comes from the Tabloids. :rolleyes:
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/acd2c66c-c0da-11dd-b0a8-000077b07658.html

    And yes, there is also the threat of "Big Brother".
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/7a03e5b6-c541-11dd-b516-000077b07658,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2F7a03e5b6-c541-11dd-b516-000077b07658.html&_i_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2055438817%26highlight%3Dfinancial%2Btimes


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Great idea to be honest, better then stingers


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    not a big step up from stingers tbh. driver can still just go on a footpath or something.

    they should use that gun that shoots that needle thing then cuts off the electrics to your car, like in fast and the furious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    R_H_C_P wrote: »
    not a big step up from stingers tbh. driver can still just go on a footpath or something.

    they should use that gun that shoots that needle thing then cuts off the electrics to your car, like in fast and the furious.
    Totally useless against one of these :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msPrOIAVUZo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    robtri wrote: »
    sorry to disagree with you, but if your Evo got stolen by scumbags, I say use the net and sorry if it fecks your car, but its better than letting these scummers drive crazily around and risk crashing into somebody and killing them... cars are replacable... people are not....

    Good Point!

    However why cant the just use stinger? Its proven (that if deployed by any capable person) to work

    Ok it wont stop the car as quick but it will slow the pursuit right down to none lethal levels. Ok Rims on the car will be destoryed but that's better than a snapped drive shaft and a totally written off car


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    grahambo wrote: »
    Good Point!

    However why cant the just use stinger? Its proven (that if deployed by any capable person) to work

    Ok it wont stop the car as quick but it will slow the pursuit right down to none lethal levels. Ok Rims on the car will be destoryed but that's better than a snapped drive shaft and a totally written off car

    where did you get the information that this net snaps drive shafts and writes cars off....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭5500


    In reality if your car has been stolen,taken for a joyride and then involed in a high speed pursuit that calls for stinger to be used,then the likelyhood is that it's going to be in ****e eitherways from being thrashed already by the thiefs.

    I cant see the problem at all with the above net if it does the job of an older device but almost instantly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭Slig


    Totally useless against one of these :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msPrOIAVUZo

    I blame them computer games!!! Grand auto theft or whatever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    ned78 wrote: »
    RTDH's posting style is to come up with some minor article about improvements in information technology, policing equipment, etc, and then add a sprinkling of tabloidism, and general false and wild assumptions. Every thread this guy has started in the last 2 months generally goes like this :

    Something new has been developed.
    It's really really bad even though it's actually quite good.
    Big brother is watching us.
    We won't know what's happening until it's too late.
    The end.
    Ps. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

    Wouldn't be getting worked up about it fellas, it's just his way, and generally adds to the cocktail of boards posters and interests.

    Don't forget the eek faces...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    The big weakness of those things is that the car to be stopped has to be funneled down a particular road where the stinger/X-net has already been deployed. Have they ever been used in Ireland?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Have they ever been used in Ireland?
    Not yet but we are usually a number of months behind the UK. I will keep the Motoring forum informed. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Not yet but we are usually a number of months behind the UK. I will keep the Motoring forum informed. :p
    Have Stingers ever been used here? They've had them in the UK for years and years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭Dmtiling


    Looks cool - better ways are needed to deploy them though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭ART6


    Dmtiling wrote: »
    Looks cool - better ways are needed to deploy them though.

    I need a system that deploys one from the boot of my car to discourage idiots from tailgating me at all speeds.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,620 ✭✭✭Graham_B18C


    R_H_C_P wrote: »
    they should use that gun that shoots that needle thing then cuts off the electrics to your car, like in fast and the furious.
    Do they actually exist?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭Wossack


    Grahamo999 wrote: »
    Do they actually exist?!

    sounds like its still science fiction at the moment, but;

    http://eurekaaerospace.com/nlads.php


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Have Stingers ever been used here? They've had them in the UK for years and years.
    The Brits had them on standby at check points during the troubles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    The Brits had them on standby at check points during the troubles.
    So I take it they're not an immediate threat to any of our cars now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    But they could be Anan1! ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭daveharnett


    Dmtiling wrote: »
    Looks cool - better ways are needed to deploy them though.

    I could see a shotgun deployed version coming along if these proove popular.

    RTDH, I see little danger to my car, because I don't make a habit of fleeing the police.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 540 ✭✭✭FredH3as


    The Brits had them on standby at check points during the troubles.

    How do you sleep at night thinking about all his sh1t!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Stekelly wrote: »
    How would an error on the ANPR sytem force a motorist to flee from police when they try to pull them over? ane then keep runnign long enough for the police to decide to use and then deploy the stinger?




    How many times have cops anywhere used a stinger as the first method of stopping a car?



    .


    Any chance of answers here RTDH? I genuinely would like to know how much fear I should be in from the mind controlling ANPR.


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