Male 'Pill' by 2011?

Heisenberg.

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drunkmonkey

Do you really think men would be botherd to take it, I wouldn't....

zacseph

TBH, I think i'd worry that this will decrease the number of males / couples having safer sex (ie, condom) - that some guys will say thay practice safe sex and be referring to this, which won't do squat for STIs...

chillywilly

if it was proved safe, i would

NewApproach

chillywilly wrote: »

if it was proved safe, i would

Lol never has a username been so apt!

Dave!

Why would I want this? Everyone knows contraception is the woman's responsibility anyway !

j/k

Ryanzo

Wont stop sti's

Rowley Birkin QC

I would use it if it worked 100%, but do you still...eh....ahem.....<awkward cough>......"finish"?:o

LD 50

Four hundred couples are needed to join the 18-month trial.

Awesome. I'd so sign up for that if I was there. Purely for scientific reasons

unreggd

Even if it did work, I'd say it'd fvck ye up!

The women's pill only has to effect one egg, where this would have to stop billions of sperm a day

It'll only make STI infection go through the roof

and bring on the birth of the man-period :O

Joey the lips

The male pilll

Great idea! I would def use it.

But what women would believe you took it. " Dont worry honey my gun is not loaded"

Think it will only catch on in marriages and trust relationships where other forms work well already

Futurism

I don't know if I trust it. It just doesn't feel right thinking about it.

ChewChew

Dave! wrote: »

Why would I want this? Everyone knows contraception is the woman's responsibility anyway !

j/k

now now Dave!

bigkev49 wrote: »

I would use it if it worked 100%

Well, NO contraception is 100%. even the OCP taken by woman or any contraceptive afaik.

unreggd wrote: »

Even if it did work, I'd say it'd fvck ye up!

The women's pill only has to effect one egg, where this would have to stop billions of sperm a day

It'll only make STI infection go through the roof

and bring on the birth of the man-period :O

Hmm I doubt people would be actually believe it would prevent STI's. if thats the case it would be happening now! I really dont believe that it would increase STI's at all.

Joey the lips wrote: »

The male pilll

Great idea! I would def use it.

But what women would believe you took it. " Dont worry honey my gun is not loaded"

Think it will only catch on in marriages and trust relationships where other forms work well already

But men believe us woman when we tell ya ''oh yeah darlin, I'm on the pill for like forever'' have a little faith in us wimminz will ye!

norrie rugger

Ryanzo wrote: »

Wont stop sti's

Neither does the female pill

Your opinions on the contraceptive please

norrie rugger

Joey the lips wrote: »

The male pilll

Great idea! I would def use it.

But what women would believe you took it. " Dont worry honey my gun is not loaded"

Think it will only catch on in marriages and trust relationships where other forms work well already

Are you saying that guys trust random women, when they say that they are on the Pill??
come on!!

also, if you are not sure of the partner, then for the sake of STI, a condom should be used.

this is a contraceptive only not protection

KTRIC

There's no way I'm killing all my little KTRIC's with this poison :mad:

I'd rather flush them down the bog like any normal guy

trout

Judging by some of the responses on thread - Should I move this thread to AH ?

unreggd

Chewie wrote: »

Hmm I doubt people would be actually believe it would prevent STI's. if thats the case it would be happening now! I really dont believe that it would increase STI's at all.

*Facepalm*

You didnt get my post at all!

I never said it would stop STI's

And yes, it will increase STI's, and as was said above, could bring on the new HIV/AIDs

Unfortunately, a LOT of people nowadays are still completely uneducated about sexual health and STIs

And many think contraception is just for pregnancy control

So if a girl/guy is on the pill and theres no chance of pregnancy, why use a condom? >> more unprotected sex >> more infections

Phototoxin

So if a girl/guy is on the pill and theres no chance of pregnancy, why use a condom? >> more unprotected sex >> more infections

Some research in Asia has show that a proliferation of condoms has increased stis as people think 'I'm safe!' so have more sex and although there is a small failure rate its multipled by all teh sex meaning overall more HIV

I dont know how accurate is was (or how biased) but irregardless I dont see why we need to treat fertility as a 'problem' to be overcome. If we actually spent as much money time and effort into curing the cold or diabetes or cancers it would be better.

AARRRGH

Ryanzo wrote: »

Wont stop sti's

It's not supposed to stop STIs.

Totally irrelevant...

Capt'n Midnight

or the morning after pill for men ? it changes your blood group

Capt'n Midnight

95% effective ! and that's in a control group , can you tell if you are one of the 5% or is it a matter of wait and see. be interesting to see if the health effects are less than the pill. How many ladies would believe a man who said he was on this ??

Joey the lips

The Male Pill. I would take it. Religiously with my Viagra every morning!

Nahh seriously, If you are in a serious relationship Married/Cohabiting etc I think there would be enough trust to trust you to take it. I think the problem would lie in mens eyes more than women. Women who cannot take the female pill would be glad of the male alternative. I honestly think some girls would still take the female pill along with it as a double safety nett. There is a lot of women who equally seem to hate condoms as much as men so I would say there is a good market for it

I def would love to give it a go!

But i wonder how many men would be upset at the thoughts of their little swimmers being cut off?

You can bet your moth will be checking you are taking them every morning " Hi honey, your toast and pills are on the table"

By the way for those who askerd why it will take 2 years I think the clinnical trial time for drug testing is 2 years to get a good sample reading.

Procasinator

I'm more interested in the non-hormonal pill, which has been developed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-418791/UK-scientists-invent-male-pill-taken-hours-sex.html

The female hormonal-changing pills can create havoc on a girls psyche and body, bringing the same potential problems to males is not the answer.

MagicMarker

Ryanzo wrote: »

Wont stop sti's

norrie rugger wrote: »

Neither does the female pill

Your opinions on the contraceptive please

AARRRGH wrote: »

It's not supposed to stop STIs.

Totally irrelevant...

It's completely relevant. Do you not think this will effect the rates of unprotected sex? A lot of youngers guys won't bother their arses buying condoms and ''ruining the moment'' if they have this as an option.

STI's will skyrocket.

AARRRGH

MagicMarker wrote: »

It's completely relevant. Do you not think this will effect the rates of unprotected sex? A lot of youngers guys won't bother their arses buying condoms and ''ruining the moment'' if they have this as an option.

STI's will skyrocket.

No, it's irrelevant because the male pill has nothing to do with stopping STIs. It is being created to stop pregnancies.

STIs are a totally different problem.

Joey the lips

Seriously! Does anybody know of tesing in ireland?

OneArt

Even if it does work it'll probably end up causing cancer or something.

Everything causes cancer these days...

Snowie

thast horrible id never do that...

it could make you depressed it could help you loose potencey etc nope no way...

Krieg

Its an injection, thats the first problem. I think a pill would be fine but an injection is gonna put a lot of males off it. Not to sound childish but they don't say where the injection is done. Im assuming its into the bloodstream, if it was in the balls, I wouldn't use it.
A 95% success rate is pretty bad too

FruitLover

An injection is not a pill. I'll be interested once it doesn't require sticking a needle in myself.

Procasinator wrote: »

The female hormonal-changing pills can create havoc on a girls psyche and body, bringing the same potential problems to males is not the answer.

I'd rather have unwanted hormone problems than unwanted kids TBH.

Ryanzo wrote: »

Wont stop sti's

Thank you for this valuable information, Captain Obvious. What ever would we do without you?

norrie rugger

MagicMarker wrote: »

It's completely relevant. Do you not think this will effect the rates of unprotected sex? A lot of youngers guys won't bother their arses buying condoms and ''ruining the moment'' if they have this as an option.

STI's will skyrocket.

Does the increasing of the uptake, of the female pill, cause a "skyrocket"ing of STI occurances?
It is the job of education to differenciate between Contraceptive and STI prevention

oh and another update on topic
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8033218.stm

The BBC wrote:

A male contraceptive jab could be as effective at preventing pregnancies as the female pill or condoms, work shows.

The monthly testosterone injection works by temporarily blocking sperm production and could revolutionise birth control, experts believe.

In trials in China only one man in 100 fathered a child while on the injections, the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism reports.

Six months after stopping the jabs the men's sperm counts returned to normal.

Family planning campaigners welcomed the news and said they hoped an injection would give couples more choice and enable men to take a greater share of the responsibility for contraception.

At the moment the onus is on the woman and men do not have that much choice

Fertility expert Mr Laurence Shaw
But experts said more trials were needed to check the safety of the jab.

Previous attempts to develop an effective and convenient male contraceptive have encountered problems over reliability and side effects, such as mood swings and a lowered sex drive.

Despite the injection having no serious side effects, almost a third of the 1,045 men in the two-and-a-half year trial did not complete it and no reason was given for this.

More choice

Lead researcher Dr Yi-Qun Gu, from the National Research Institute for Family Planning in Beijing, China, said: "For couples who cannot, or prefer not to use only female-orientated contraception, options have been limited to vasectomy, condom and withdrawal.

"Our study shows a male hormonal contraceptive regimen may be a potential, novel and workable alternative."

He said if further tests proved successful the treatment could become widely available in five years from now.

Mr Laurence Shaw, of the London Bridge Fertility Centre and the British Fertility Society, said: "If a male contraceptive like this became available it would be great and would give people another choice.

"It would empower men to make a decision which involves more than just a condom. At the moment the onus is on the woman and men do not have that much choice.

"But we have been here before with testosterone as a method of contraception. We need more rigorous safety testing."

He said in trials, the female Pill was still more effective as a contraceptive than the new jab, but that in real life they might be comparable because it is easier to forget to take a pill.

A spokeswoman from Marie Stopes International said: "This is a very positive step forward. The more range of contraceptives there are, the better.

"But if this does become available men should still remember that it will not protect them against sexually transmitted infections and they should still use a condom."

Rebecca Findlay of the Family Planning Association said: "In the past fpa has asked men if they would use hormonal contraception, and a third gave a definite yes they would.

"More research is needed to make sure that any new method is safe and effective, but men will welcome the continued search to give them more control over their fertility and sexual health."

Procasinator

FruitLover wrote: »

I'd rather have unwanted hormone problems than unwanted kids TBH.

Same. But you might find you would prefer wearing a condom then taking the male hormone. For instance, if the male hormone managed to decrease you sex drive significantly you might decide you were better using condoms.

Dr Galen

Procasinator wrote: »

Same. But you might find you would prefer wearing a condom then taking the male hormone. For instance, if the male hormone managed to decrease you sex drive significantly you might decide you were better using condoms.

thats a good point. the hope would be that a "male pill" would not decrease libido, but different people may have differing effects.

I can see anything that involves an injection taking off for blokes, in my experience, men are worse than girls about getting jabbed, even if it is only in the arse.

We're still a good way from this kind of thing becoming the norm, but at least it's a further step on the road

FruitLover

Procasinator wrote: »

For instance, if the male hormone managed to decrease you sex drive significantly

Actually, that might be a convenience.... Amirite fellas?

tallaght01

unreggd wrote: »

as was said above, could bring on the new HIV/AIDs

Krieg wrote: »

if it was in the balls, I wouldn't use it.

LOL This tread is AWESOME!

A Primal Nut

So you don't actually cum? Whats the point so? Effects don't wear off for a while so you couldn't masterbate properly either.

If they found a way of only producing the infertile sperm i would be impressed.

A Primal Nut

I dont know how accurate is was (or how biased) but irregardless I dont see why we need to treat fertility as a 'problem' to be overcome. If we actually spent as much money time and effort into curing the cold or diabetes or cancers it would be better.

This kinda statement is regularly made about different things and it always annoys me because it is incorrect. The fact is that a lot more time and effort is going into curing those things than finding a male contraceptive. That doesn't mean we should stop spending time doing other things; and everyone in the word doing it would probably be too many cooks spoiling the broth. If you feel so passionate, why don't you quit your job, do a medicine/chemistry degree and start curing cancer.

And I don't believe the drug companies view feritilty as a major problem that needs to be solved, this is simply a way to make money.

cocoa

A Primal Nut wrote: »

So you don't actually cum? Whats the point so? Effects don't wear off for a while so you couldn't masterbate properly either.

If they found a way of only producing the infertile sperm i would be impressed.

you still 'cum'... sperm !=semen...