graduations

Placebo

is a tux compulsory or would one get away with a black suit ? Also besides that and the robe, do i need anything else?

Cantab.

A "tux" (i.e. black tie) is evening wear AFAIC.

To my commencements, I wore a black lounge suit with white tie (the ceremony was at 11 in the morning). If I had an afternoon commencements, I'd go for a black tie.

Make sure you wear leather-soled shoes that are well polished! This isn't UCD!

All it takes is one gimp to turn up in white chinos and a creased jacket to ruin the class photo.

Boston

Formal from what I recall. Mate of mine wore his own black suit, and tbh looked better then most of the tuxes.

godtabh

Does it matter what you wear? Its all covered by your gown.

Boston

Not all of it, the gown is open in the front, so you can see the lapel, shirt, bow tie ect ect.

Placebo

apparently theyre very strict, its for my post grad and everyone else in class garduated as i forgot to send in a form

anyway so am i correct in assuming i can wear a black suit with a bow tie?
i think i just need it for graduation/getting that piece of paper ceremony, not anything else..

Boston

Placebo wrote: »

apparently theyre very strict, its for my post grad and everyone else in class garduated as i forgot to send in a form

anyway so am i correct in assuming i can wear a black suit with a bow tie?
i think i just need it for graduation/getting that piece of paper ceremony, not anything else..

The form details the dress code. Black suite, black bow tie, white shirt.

Cantab.

Boston wrote: »

The form details the dress code. Black suite, black bow tie, white shirt.

The 'form' is wrong. It should be more precise and simply state: full academic dress. If you don't know what that is, there's Debrett's -- facebook even have an academic dress page.

Less of this "tux" lark.

Boston

What the form says is all that matters. It details what they find acceptable. They won't have grounds for refusing you if you meet the requirements set out in the correspondence between yourself and the college.

Cantab.

Boston wrote: »

What the form says is all that matters.

And who issues this "form"? And is the person clicking the buttons on the MS-Word document fully aware of the College's protocols and her rich heritage/traditions?

godtabh

Cantab. wrote: »

And who issues this "form"?

Trinity.

shay_562

Cantab. wrote:

To my commencements, I wore a black lounge suit with white tie (the ceremony was at 11 in the morning).

If (admittedly vague) memory serves, it's actually quite the faux pas to wear white tie to a black tie event. They probably shouldn't have let the likes of you in.

rc28

shay_562 wrote: »

If (admittedly vague) memory serves, it's actually quite the faux pas to wear white tie to a black tie event. They probably shouldn't have let the likes of you in.

+1. A white tie is possibly the tackiest thing one can wear anyway.

Boston

screw you guys, Cantab is a trend setter, he flies in the face of convention and tradition only to carves him own path in life. Look, as he struts about in his designer hair cut, hot pants and hooker boots, never before has one been so fashion unconscious.

mathew

Cantab. wrote: »

The 'form' is wrong. It should be more precise and simply state: full academic dress. If you don't know what that is, there's Debrett's -- facebook even have an academic dress page.

Less of this "tux" lark.

but... facebook is blocked

godtabh

Boston wrote: »

screw you guys, Cantab is a trend setter, he flies in the face of convention and tradition only to carves him own path in life. Look, as he struts about in his designer hair cut, hot pants and hooker boots, never before has one been so fashion unconscious.

DId you not wear some assless pants a couple of weeks ago?

Boston

Erm, they were crotchless! They where for a formal,black tie, occasion. Cantab was there also...

Placebo

last time i post here.
thanks

Kwekubo

I have to admit that the current form from the proctors' office isn't really clear:

Men must wear dinner jackets or full evening wear (tuxedo), white shirt, black or white bow tie (clergy or military excepted), hood and gown.

Tuxedo and dinner jacket mean the same thing - black tie; full evening wear means white tie.

My guess is that a dark coloured suit would be just fine, and is probably more traditional than wearing evening wear for a morning event.

godtabh

Boston wrote: »

Erm, they were crotchless! They where for a formal,black tie, occasion. Cantab was there also...

Another memory to wipe out this weekend

Cantab.

shay_562 wrote: »

If (admittedly vague) memory serves, it's actually quite the faux pas to wear white tie to a black tie event. They probably shouldn't have let the likes of you in.

A commencements ceremony is not a "black tie" "event" AFAIC. Dress is full academic dress and not black tie.

As I already said, the reason I wore a white tie was because my ceremony was at 11 in the morning.

All the black tie monkeys with clip-on ties and rubber shoes should have invested in a good quality suit in 1st year and get full use out if throughout their college career. It would have been cheaper in the long run and they wouldn't have had to endure the lingering scent of well-washed vomit and the feeling of threadbare shirts rubbing against their backs.

Cantab.

Kwekubo wrote: »

I have to admit that the current form from the proctors' office isn't really clear:

Tuxedo and dinner jacket mean the same thing - black tie; full evening wear means white tie.

My guess is that a dark coloured suit would be just fine, and is probably more traditional than wearing evening wear for a morning event.

I'm disappointed by the Proctor's Office TBQH. The word "tuxedo" stuck inside brackets is cringe-worthy.

blacktieguide.com looks too American for my liking. I'd give much more credence to Debrett's.

Boston

Cantab. wrote: »

A commencements ceremony is not a "black tie" "event" AFAIC. Dress is full academic dress and not black tie.

As I already said, the reason I wore white tie was because my ceremony was at 11 in the morning.

All the black tie monkeys with clip-on ties and rubber shoes should have invested in a good quality suit in 1st year and get full use out if throughout their college career. It would have been cheaper in the long run and they wouldn't have had to endure the lingering scent of well-washed vomit and the feeling of threadbare shirts rubbing against their backs.

How exactly do you manage to hold so many people in contempt.

EGaffney

Cantab. is quite right about dress - I've always wondered why tuxedos are the dress of choice for events that begin at 10 or 11 a.m..

shay_562

Cantab., the British Royal Family wearing something doesn't make it appropriate. If that were the case, Nazi uniforms would be socially acceptable garb and, despite your doubtless fondest wishes, that's not quite the case. EGaffney, on the other hand, I'm willing to accept as a font of wisdom on this matter. Thanks E!

godtabh

Boston wrote: »

How exactly do you manage to hold so many people in contempt.

Life would be boring otherwise.

I bought a tux in first year and wore it about 6 times so I got my monies worth from it. I wonder does it still fit

AlexD

shay_562 wrote: »

If (admittedly vague) memory serves, it's actually quite the faux pas to wear white tie to a black tie event. They probably shouldn't have let the likes of you in.

Actually, the faux pas is wearing a dinner jacket (black tie) during the day! I think Cantab was moving more towards a Morning Suit which is the correct formal day wear. (White Tie is the most formal kind of evening dress). From memory, I understand that the current statutes require those attending commemcements ceremonies to wear black and white, which the administators usefully spell out as Black Tie for men.

Until we can have this travesty reversed, I suggest those being conferred with their degrees consult http://www.blacktieguide.com/, a truly excellent resource. Better, yet organise a rebellion by having your whole class attend in Morning Dress.