Interesting statistics of the US pres election!

mumhaabu

http://www.chuckypita.com/republicans-and-democrats-elections-2008-professor-olson-map/

Obama was elected on the backs of the increasing ethnic minorities, and limousine liberals of the NE and West Coast. He won there is no doubt about it. However he won thanks to welfare recipients and the well off white liberals who voted him in. These white liberals are mainly very well off and have good jobs and make large amounts of money, usually off the ethnic minorities and the working class white people of "flyover America".

These people are in "flyover Jesusland" are generally living off around $20,000 a year and are crippled with taxes yet the limousine liberals of the Atlantic and Pacific coasts can run banks into the ground costing trillions and not even get indited, yet if a guy doesn't pay a speeding ticket in Tulsa Oklahoma he will get the county lockup, similarly for your underprivileged ethnic guy in the inner cities.

One look at Nanci Pelosi and I'm glad we have the biffmister to save/finish us, the end of America is terribly close as the liberals have seized power now and are printing money like no tomorrow, they will keep and maintain power by shovelling in new immigrants and legalising the illegals, stick them on welfare and with a little cajoling from Arianna Huffington* and Keith Olbermann* they become brainwashed card carrying Democrats for life. Best of all is that everything bad can be blamed on the Republicans and now they will raid the US Federal Reserve for Trillions in bailouts to suit themselves while the blame for everything goes to the Republicans and the average Joe labelled a "Red Neck Hick" by the liberal media will get his taxes increase and he will be screwed for to pay for it all.

People love to talk about the NWO and the "Evil Republicans" however the consolidation of power is now complete and a new era of liberal socialism is about to dawn on America and this is truly bad for all believers of liberty and freedom everywhere. As the economic crisis grows and worsens do not be surprised to hear the word secession stirring in America. The Federal Government will have a job to keep its states together very soon. I predict that unless something gives soon the USA may not exist in 2015. Obama's rating is now down to 59% incidentally.

*Two biased liberal media commentators who are so biased it makes you sick, Bill O'Reilly would look quite partial in comparison.

Jim_Are_Great

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Overheal

mumhaabu wrote: »

Obama's rating is now down to 59% incidentally.

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200902092014.htm

I can spot some other holes in the rant (Joe <$20k paying more taxes?), but meh.

Pocono Joe

Overheal wrote: »

(Joe <$20k paying more taxes?)

I usually like to stay away from these highly partisan postings.

GuanYin

Obama's rating is currently 63% on the gallup poll, probably the stricter analysis. If you are to use the RCP Average, which is becoming the indicator for more and more political analysts, it is 65.4%.

Secondly, that link is nonsense. Democrats won 28 states to Republicans 22 which renders every stat on that page wrong. The popular vote win margin was 8.5 Million, so even if what you said was true (which it isn't , because the demograph statistics from don't match 66.8 million figure who voted for Obama.) it would simply be a reflection of America's population.

All of which pretty much destroys your entire post.

I'll give this 24 hours to see if anyone has anything sensible to add. The minute this goes the CT route I'll move it to either Sci-Fi or Conspiracy theories.

Overheal

What if it goes the lolcat route?

GuanYin

Overheal wrote: »

What if it goes the lolcat route?

Have you ever seen anyone post a lolcat in Politics?

Overheal

GuanYin wrote: »

Have you ever seen anyone post a lolcat in Politics?

<cough>

GuanYin

The answer is no you haven't and the reason is because I tend to come down VERY hard on LOLcats.....

I'll let you consider that for a while before I decide to click on those links.

mumhaabu

Nice cat!

Pocono Joe wrote: »

I usually like to stay away from these highly partisan postings.

Check the income levels in the states and counties who voted for McCain and Obama, you will find that the red counties are predominantly poor hardworking tax payers and that the blue are a mixture of ethnic voters, welfare recipients and liberal millionaires who want Socialism and unrestricted immigration so long as they can be all safe and cosy within in their gated communites while paying practically no tax.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowest-income_counties_in_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest-income_counties_in_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_poorest_places_in_the_United_States
Obama to tax the poor

GuanYin wrote: »

Obama's rating is currently 63% on the gallup poll, probably the stricter analysis. If you are to use the RCP Average, which is becoming the indicator for more and more political analysts, it is 65.4%.

Secondly, that link is nonsense. Democrats won 28 states to Republicans 22 which renders every stat on that page wrong. The popular vote win margin was 8.5 Million, so even if what you said was true (which it isn't , because the demograph statistics from don't match 66.8 million figure who voted for Obama.) it would simply be a reflection of America's population.

All of which pretty much destroys your entire post.

I'll give this 24 hours to see if anyone has anything sensible to add. The minute this goes the CT route I'll move it to either Sci-Fi or Conspiracy theories.

Indeed Barack Obama won the electoral college vote 28 to 22, however to clarify the stats in the article quoted are the amount of states won by counties outright which saw the Republicans win 29 - 19.

Barack Obama's rating is hovering between 59% to 60% according to Rasmussen a highly respected and well used polling agency. Reasons quickly outlined here.

[EDIT] Where'd the cat go?[/EDIT]

GuanYin

mumhaabu wrote: »

Indeed Barack Obama won the electoral college vote 28 to 22, however to clarify the stats in the article quoted are the amount of states won by counties outright which saw the Republicans win 29 - 19.

I'd like to see another source for those figure. The Colorado county map is certainly wrong so I don't have much faith in the rest of it.

In any case, County representation is very misleading, especially in low populated areas.

Barack Obama's rating is hovering between 59% to 60% according to Rasmussen a highly respected and well used polling agency. Reasons quickly outlined here.

Indeed Rasmussen is respected, so is Gallup but as *I* stated nearly very political analyst of any note now uses the RCP average, or at least quotes it, unless he or she is trying to make a loaded point.

The RCP Average takes the average ratings from multiple independent sources and collates them.

jank

Check the income levels in the states and counties who voted for McCain and Obama, you will find that the red counties are predominantly poor hardworking tax payers and that the blue are a mixture of ethnic voters, welfare recipients and liberal millionaires who want Socialism and unrestricted immigration so long as they can be all safe and cosy within in their gated communites while paying practically no tax.

Wow so many things are wrong here.

First off if you actually look at the poor counties/towns involved they are made up lots of native americans and then hispanics. You telling me they are republican?

Second, Liberal millionaire that wants socialism. Bit of an oxymoron? It is shown that the richer you are the more likely is it that you will vote republican. This changed slightly in the last election but still holds true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008

Third, It has been shown that those living in gated communties vote overwhemlingly republican not democrat.

4th if you look at the 2 richest counties you will see that in the last 40 years they have only voted democrat 3 times in presidential elections. This is following up on point 2.

Seriously there is not one line in either post that is not a lie or full of cow $hit.

jank

Anyway what if you are right, can you answer this question. If the hardworking americans in the flyover states are getting screwed by those damm liberals on the coast, then what are the republican party are doing for them. The south has been republican for decades now yet still lag behind the rest of the country in terms of education, health and economy. Yet those voters will still vote for republicans because these democrats are godless people. Bush was in power for 8 years with congress behind him for 6 of those years. Why all the complaints now??

You cant have your cake and eat it too.

Matt Holck

Overheal wrote: »

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200902092014.htm

I can spot some other holes in the rant (Joe <$20k paying more taxes?), but meh.

people with less money spend a greater pentage of their income on sales taxes in California


I just paid $54 dollars to register my broken car as off the road
that's a lot of money to me
I didn't want to risk records that go unattended

Overheal

And so i dont see why thats being used as a point to attack "liberals"

Matt Holck

can we ban the following terms from politics?

liberal
conservative
right
left
republican
democrat

jank

Matt Holck wrote: »

people with less money spend a greater pentage of their income on sales taxes in California


I just paid $54 dollars to register my broken car as off the road
that's a lot of money to me
I didn't want to risk records that go unattended

And? Isnt Arnie a republican? Doesnt the governor set these state tax laws?

Matt Holck

California taxes start in the state assembly (popular house)
just like all US taxes start in the house of representatives
Arnold is the governor
Media could be decentralized to hightlight local assembly canidates

Overheal

Matt Holck wrote: »

can we banned the following terms from politics?

liberal
conservative
right
left
republican
democrat

George Washington like I've said never wanted a party system. And I think this is why. All it seems to do is act as easy labels for people and encourages more discrimination (a la Rush Limbaugh, if you've ever listened to the man for 20 minutes). Lord knows what a resounding success its been for Ireland so far.. I'm still afraid to get involved in those irish politics lest i accidentally offend someone.

Matt Holck

I made a grammer mistake in the last question

can we banned(ban) the following terms from politics?

that or someone has altered the post

most likely, I started by inserting it as a command

the following terms are banned ...



as for Irish Politics forum,
the traffic is too think to track

Pocono Joe

Matt Holck wrote: »

can we ban the following terms from politics?

liberal
conservative
right
left
republican
democrat

While we're at it, why not also ban the terms authoritarian, autocrat, cadillac Conservative, center, Chicago politician, conservatism, conspiracy, conspirator, democrap, democratic, Demopublican, DINO, extremist, fascism, Green, illegitimate government, independent, jingoism, left-wing, leftism, leftist, Left Coast, left field, left wing, liberalism, liberalness, Libertarian , limousine liberal, moderate, nationalism, neocon, neoliberal, patriot, patriotism, pocono joe, political compass, populism, populist, progressive, radical, right-wing, rightist, RINO, Seattle Mafia, socialism, socialist, totalitarianism, traitor, Vichy Democrat.

Heck, why not just ban the whole US Politics forum.