Legal Help Needed

robroy23

can any one help was in court last week were i received a 5 year ban now ive appealed it straight away it was for dangerous driving . my solictor caught the gardai out lying in court an this still got me a 5year ban if i apeal it wat would be the out come just to add another point my dob 1s 12 /01/85 but i was convicted AS 12/01/83 would that matter by ne chance thank you

Anan1

robroy23 wrote: »

can any one help was in court last week were i received a 5 year ban now ive appealed it straight away it was for dangerous driving . my solictor caught the gardai out lying in court an this still got me a 5year ban if i apeal it wat would be the out come just to add another point my dob 1s 12 /01/85 but i was convicted AS 12/01/83 would that matter by ne chance thank you

You need a solicitor, not the opinions of random people you meet on the internet.

Seth Brundle

I have moved your posts robroy23.
My advice would be to contact a solicitor as Anan1 has already mentioned.

Drummerboy08

Im not being nasty, but if there is a legit reason that you were in court for dangerous driving, i really hope you dont get it overturned because of an admin error.

If you werent driving dangerously, and the guard (for whatever reason) is lying in court about it, and you can prove it, then talk to your solicitor.

qz

You need legal advice you go to a solicitor.
You need medical advice you go to a doctor.

Boards.ie cannot do these things for you.

Your problem seems pretty serious so why not treat it as such - get professional help.

The mind boggles.

Heroditas

Should be interesting to see what he was accused of doing though...

Seth Brundle

Hang on!
I'm just re-reading this again. Your solicitor caught the garda lying in the court but you were still done. If you have a solicitor acting on your behalf, why then are you asking some random petrolheads?

omb0wyn5ehpij9

kbannon wrote: »

Hang on!
I'm just re-reading this again. Your solicitor caught the garda lying in the court but you were still done. If you have a solicitor acting on your behalf, why then are you asking some random petrolheads?

+1

dade

maybe his solicitor couldn't understand that atrocious spelling when the OP wrote and asked his advice

or maybe there was other evidence than the word of the Gardai in question that could be excluded and still conclude the case with the same result

Robbo

A 5 year ban? You either have a lot of previous or you did something spectacularly stupid and dangerous.

zulfikarMD

robroy23 wrote: »

can any one help was in court last week were i received a 5 year ban now ive appealed it straight away it was for dangerous driving

5 year ban only for dangerous driving? did you hit anyone? I had a accident where my mother and mother-in-law passed away..garda caught polish driver who eventually pleaded guilty and got just 2 years jail + 2 years driving ban..what is the criteria for getting driving ban?

mcauley

Robbo wrote: »

A 5 year ban? You either have a lot of previous or you did something spectacularly stupid and dangerous.

+1

The ban shouldnt be overturned on an administrative error, unless your forgetting to mention something else here..

stealthyspeeder

kbannon wrote: »

Hang on!
I'm just re-reading this again. Your solicitor caught the garda lying in the court but you were still done. If you have a solicitor acting on your behalf, why then are you asking some random petrolheads?

If his solicitor managed to catch the guard lying in court and still have his client convicted and punished with a five year ban, maybe his solicitor is crap! ( or maybe the OP did something soooooo wild and soooooo dangerous that 5 years was warrented!) Im so curious OP! what were you accused of? and is your lawyer like Lynal Hutz off the Simpsons!?

qz

qz wrote: »

The mind boggles.

+1

Guy:Incognito

stealthyspeeder wrote: »

If his solicitor managed to catch the guard lying in court and still have his client convicted and punished with a five year ban, maybe his solicitor is crap!

Purely going on the info he's given so far I'd imagine the "lie" he was caught out on was the wrong DOB. ie admin error = lie.

T-Maxx

Trolling:rolleyes:

CharlieCroker

Sounds all slightly unbelievable to me, especially since the max ban for a first offence of dangerous driving is 4 years if it causes death ior serious injury and 6 yrs for 2+ convictions!!

PCwiggum

I think this will be robroys first and last post on boards.ie - well in the motor section anyways....:pac:

CharlieCroker

robroy23

robroy23 wrote: »

can any one help was in court last week were i received a 5 year ban now ive appealed it straight away it was for dangerous driving . my solictor caught the gardai out lying in court an this still got me a 5year ban if i apeal it wat would be the out come just to add another point my dob 1s 12 /01/85 but i was convicted AS 12/01/83 would that matter by ne chance thank you

As i already pointed out i have a solictor on this case. basically what happened was the guards said they seen driving while on the phone and came after me (i didnt see them as i would of stopped ) and that i sped of taking 2 corners at speed and driving by a green space at 100kph with children playing to my left (which is lies ) now they said they lost site of me and yes it was my first conviction of any sort all im asking for is peoples opinion of dothey think it warrants a 5 yr ban and ive found out about the wrong dob situation already thanks for peoples help

peasant

for legal advise .... keep talking to your solicitor

For unsolicited, opinionated comment ...you've come to the right spot :pac:

Henry Ford III

robroy23 wrote: »

As i already pointed out i have a solictor on this case. basically what happened was the guards said they seen driving while on the phone and came after me (i didnt see them as i would of stopped ) and that i sped of taking 2 corners at speed and driving by a green space at 100kph with children playing to my left (which is lies ) now they said they lost site of me and yes it was my first conviction of any sort all im asking for is peoples opinion of dothey think it warrants a 5 yr ban and ive found out about the wrong dob situation already thanks for peoples help

You wouldn't (in my humble opinion) get a 5 year driving ban for that.

I call SHENANIGANS!

-Chris-

robroy23 wrote: »

As i already pointed out i have a solictor on this case. basically what happened was the guards said they seen driving while on the phone and came after me (i didnt see them as i would of stopped ) and that i sped of taking 2 corners at speed and driving by a green space at 100kph with children playing to my left (which is lies ) now they said they lost site of me and yes it was my first conviction of any sort all im asking for is peoples opinion of dothey think it warrants a 5 yr ban and ive found out about the wrong dob situation already thanks for peoples help

If everything the Gardai said is true, then yes, it warrants a 5 year ban. Definitely.

If they're lying and you're the victim of a Garda lying about what happened, then no, you shouldn't be banned.

If they're lying about some of it, but they're telling the truth on the rest then you'll have to clarify on the events before anyone here can "help".

-Chris-

robroy23 wrote: »

As i already pointed out i have a solictor on this case. basically what happened was the guards said they seen driving while on the phone and came after me (i didnt see them as i would of stopped ) and that i sped of taking 2 corners at speed and driving by a green space at 100kph with children playing to my left (which is lies ) now they said they lost site of me and yes it was my first conviction of any sort all im asking for is peoples opinion of dothey think it warrants a 5 yr ban and ive found out about the wrong dob situation already thanks for peoples help

Clarification: I'm reading this as you on the phone while driving. Gardai come up behind you, you don't show any recognition of them and you speed off (you say you didn't see them). After several corners at speed and speeding in a residential area, you managed to lose them.
I'm not sure how they caught you afterwards.

Do I have this right? Am I missing anything?

Seth Brundle

peasant wrote: »

for legal advise .... keep talking to your solicitor

For unsolicited, opinionated comment ...you've come to the right spot :pac:

It was solicited in fairness - the OP asked for our views!

galwaytt

AudiChris wrote: »

If everything the Gardai said is true, then yes, it warrants a 5 year ban. Definitely.

If they're lying and you're the victim of a Garda lying about what happened, then no, you shouldn't be banned.

If they're lying about some of it, but they're telling the truth on the rest then you'll have to clarify on the events before anyone here can "help".

Can't agree with 5 yrs tbh - there's people out there doing much worse, including drink driving causing death and they get nothing like this.

eringobragh

galwaytt wrote: »

Can't agree with 5 yrs tbh - there's people out there doing much worse, including drink driving causing death and they get nothing like this.

If it was Mary Fahy (Galway) it would be penal servitude for life with Hard Labour .Someone recieved a 12month Ban for a noisy sports exhaust off her I'm told :eek:

HJL

AudiChris wrote: »

Clarification: I'm reading this as you on the phone while driving. Gardai come up behind you, you don't show any recognition of them and you speed off (you say you didn't see them). After several corners at speed and speeding in a residential area, you managed to lose them.
I'm not sure how they caught you afterwards.

Do I have this right? Am I missing anything?

I dont know what the technical court room name for that is, but around here its called trying to out run the cops!

Terrontress

zulfikarMD wrote: »

5 year ban only for dangerous driving? did you hit anyone? I had a accident where my mother and mother-in-law passed away..garda caught polish driver who eventually pleaded guilty and got just 2 years jail + 2 years driving ban..what is the criteria for getting driving ban?

Jesus Christ!

It BeeMee

robroy23 wrote: »

As i already pointed out i have a solictor on this case. basically what happened was the guards said they seen driving while on the phone and came after me (i didnt see them as i would of stopped ) and that i sped of taking 2 corners at speed and driving by a green space at 100kph with children playing to my left (which is lies ) now they said they lost site of me and yes it was my first conviction of any sort all im asking for is peoples opinion of dothey think it warrants a 5 yr ban and ive found out about the wrong dob situation already thanks for peoples help

You didn't speed by?
Or there were no children playing?
Is this the part your colsicitor caught the guard out on?

Even if it is, there are still plenty of grounds for conviction.

Still, 5 years sounds very harsh for the information we have so far.

Paulw

The normal speed limit driving in a residential area (around a green area) would be 50kph at most, more usually 30kph where children are at play. So, doing 100kph would qualify for dangerous driving.

Talking on the phone while driving is a no brainer. You deserve that.

Not stopping for the Gardai, and speeding away is a serious offence in itself. Not seeing the Gardai with lights, etc on, would also qualify for driving without due care and attention.

If those are the offences, then you deserve what you got, never mind if it was your first or 10th offence. I doubt you'll get much sympathy here.

If you want legal advice - talk to your solicitor.

Pat Mustard

Where was the court, who was the judge?

robroy23

The Mustard wrote: »

Where was the court, who was the judge?

ya all a pack of wasters on this i asked for advice not a lecture just to let ya `s all no my appeal was heard friday and i was givin the benefit of the doubt ha ha go an kisss my b******

peasant

robroy23 wrote: »

ya all a pack of wasters on this ....ha ha go an kisss my b******

Lovely to have known you too

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