67000 EUROS HOLIDAY

mirror mirror

martin cullen and 3 others went to beijing olympics at a cost of 67000 euros.who picks up the tab for this? minister for sport my a..e he has as much of a clue about sport as my dog ...............:mad:

galwayrush

Make the idiot pay it back.:mad:
is this what our extra taxes / levies are for? More waste?:mad:

ninebeanrows

mirror mirror wrote: »

martin cullen and 3 others went to beijing olympics at a cost of 67000 euros.who picks up the tab for this? minister for sport my a..e he has as much of a clue about sport as my dog ...............:mad:

What? You want some sort of communist society where our elected Ministers drive to work in tractors and get trains to China??

Come off it, these are elected ministers who are representing our country.

slumped

Martin Cullen is actually a very knowledgeable man - and you'd be surprised at what he knows.

To say that the Olympics was a 67000 Euro holiday is a bit much.

Firstly, it was work. Unless China is Mr Cullen's favourite holiday destination then he would probably have preferred to go on holidays somewhere else, perhaps with his wife and family. Not with 2 civil servants.

The cost per person is 22,000 each.

Allow, say €3000 per person for flights
Allow, say €250 per night accomodation (14 nights) (3,500 euro)
Allow, say €500 per day for entertainment and food etc. (7,000 euro)
Allow, say €500 per day for transport (7,000)

You're not long accounting for 22,000 per person.

S

YDMHSSB

aint it great how all these are coming out now with the 'session about. god only knows what the f8ckers were doing during the "good times". the amount of money wasted by this goverment is astronomical.

another farce,add in the private jet, the health pay system joke, the voting booths never used (and the millions to store them), luas and countless other projects over budget.

all these would contribute nicely to a cancer research facility or 10 around the country amongests other things.

galwayrush

Weathercheck wrote: »

What? You want some sort of communist society where our elected Ministers drive to work in tractors and get trains to China??

Come off it, these are elected ministers who are representing our country.

He didn't even go to support many of the irish competitors.
10,000 for meals? FFS that's probably more than it cost to feed all our athletes. Clueless Cullen indeed.
Sorry, i take the clueless bit back, he's smart. smart enough to know the tax payers are idiots and he'll get away wih it.:mad:

slumped

galwayrush wrote: »

Make the idiot pay it back.:mad:
is this what our extra taxes / levies are for? More waste?:mad:

Why the personal insult?

How is it waste? We send an Olympic team, so therefore out Sports Minister should be there.

How would people have reacted if nobody from Government went, and we had won a gold medal.

Headlines would have been "Government too tight to send Minister to China"

seraphimvc

slumped wrote: »

Martin Cullen is actually a very knowledgeable man - and you'd be surprised at what he knows.

To say that the Olympics was a 67000 Euro holiday is a bit much.

Firstly, it was work. Unless China is Mr Cullen's favourite holiday destination then he would probably have preferred to go on holidays somewhere else, perhaps with his wife and family. Not with 2 civil servants.

The cost per person is 22,000 each.

Allow, say €3000 per person for flights
Allow, say €250 per night accomodation (14 nights) (3,500 euro)
Allow, say €500 per day for entertainment and food etc. (7,000 euro)
Allow, say €500 per day for transport (7,000)

You're not long accounting for 22,000 per person.

S

dude,remember you are in china,minus the flight ticket etc in euro they paid,lets say 20000 per person,that's still 200k in RMB.been using some nice chinese GRO(Guest relationship officer) every night over there?

Madness

Guy:Incognito

YDMHSSB wrote: »

aint it great how all these are coming out now with the 'session about. god only knows what the f8ckers were doing during the "good times". the amount of money wasted by this goverment is astronomical.

another farce,add in the private jet, the health pay system joke, the voting booths never used (and the millions to store them), luas and countless other projects over budget.

all these would contribute nicely to a cancer research facility or 10 around the country amongests other things.

Wasted? Every governemnt in the world has these bills, and one's a lot higher. It's the way of government. It just suits everyone to jump on the "we all hate FF" bandwagon.

I take it if anyone else was in government, the country would be great and every member of the party would be in the Dail from 9-5 EVERY Mon-Fri , 48 weeks and year and never leave the country?


Anyon want to do up an itinerary of the UK sports minister for last year?

mirror mirror

slumped wrote: »

Martin Cullen is actually a very knowledgeable man - and you'd be surprised at what he knows.

To say that the Olympics was a 67000 Euro holiday is a bit much.

Firstly, it was work. Unless China is Mr Cullen's favourite holiday destination then he would probably have preferred to go on holidays somewhere else, perhaps with his wife and family. Not with 2 civil servants.

The cost per person is 22,000 each.

Allow, say €3000 per person for flights
Allow, say €250 per night accomodation (14 nights) (3,500 euro)
Allow, say €500 per day for entertainment and food etc. (7,000 euro)
Allow, say €500 per day for transport (7,000)

You're not long accounting for 22,000 per person.

S

the hotel bill was 33000......19 nights staying in 3 different five star hotels...meals came to 10381 euros...2000 for car hire,17000 on return flights...5000 on internal flights...hotel accomodation was 435 euros per night... private secretary and assisstant secretary for sports and a press advisor went with him... athletes travelled economy class ........what does he need a press advisor for?can he not make up his own mind what to say

K-9

€22,000 per medal.

Guy:Incognito

mirror mirror wrote: »

what does he need a press advisor for?can he not make up his own mind what to say

Why does anyone, in any walk of life have any sort of PR people? Can they not decide what to say for themselves?

Guy:Incognito

K-9 wrote: »

€22,000 per medal.

At that price you'd think we'd have bought a few more. Surely would could scrounge around enough to get ourselves 10 golds.:)

Private sponsonship for 2012 FTW.

YDMHSSB

Stekelly wrote: »

Wasted? Every governemnt in the world has these bills, and one's a lot higher. It's the way of government. It just suits everyone to jump on the "we all hate FF" bandwagon.

I take it if anyone else was in government, the country would be great and every member of the party would be in the Dail from 9-5 EVERY Mon-Fri , 48 weeks and year and never leave the country?


Anyon want to do up an itinerary of the UK sports minister for last year?

so ud rather the money squandered than on proper things like health and education and roads? next time your stuck waiting for a bus, or you luas/tram is late or your stuck in traffic cos our infrastructure is so bad, remember that somebody has been pampered and treated to a 5 star trip on the money which could have come from your taxes!

as ive already said, god only knows what they squandered in the previous 10 years when nobody cared.

Donald-Duck

YDMHSSB wrote: »

so ud rather the money squandered than on proper things like health and education and roads? next time your stuck waiting for a bus, or you luas/tram is late or your stuck in traffic cos our infrastructure is so bad, remember that somebody has been pampered and treated to a 5 star trip on the money which could have come from your taxes!

as ive already said, god only knows what they squandered in the previous 10 years when nobody cared.

And you'd be whinging if they sent no one, you just want an excuse to act like a child who didn't get his sweets.

Sam Vimes

Donald-Duck wrote: »

And you'd be whinging if they sent no one, you just want an excuse to act like a child who didn't get his sweets.

tbh there is a happy medium somewhere between not going and spending 67000 euro to go.

mirror mirror

Donald-Duck wrote: »

And you'd be whinging if they sent no one, you just want an excuse to act like a child who didn't get his sweets.

yes they should send government representatives ,but at that expense do you think its a little over the top:D:D

ArmaniJeanss

YDMHSSB wrote: »

so ud rather the money squandered than on proper things like health and education and roads?

Why bother even sending the athletes to the Olympics then?
It seems like a total waste of money when little Timmy still hasn't got his dialysis treatment.

mirror mirror

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Why bother even sending the athletes to the Olympics then?
It seems like a total waste of money when little Timmy still hasn't got his dialysis treatment.

19 nights for 4 people = 67000...a chunk of that might have been better spent on the athletes and their preparations +training for the olympics...:D;):p:):rolleyes::o:mad::(:eek::cool::P:confused::pac:

Epic Tissue

Ah, I thought the OP was just making up those numbers until I read it here http://www.independent.ie/national-news/fivestar-minister-runs-up-836467000-bill-1632520.html

bastards!

mirror mirror

Epic Tissue wrote: »

Ah, I thought the OP was just making up those numbers until I read it here http://www.independent.ie/national-news/fivestar-minister-runs-up-836467000-bill-1632520.html

bastards!

i read it this morning :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

javaboy

Sam Vimes wrote: »

tbh there is a happy medium somewhere between not going and spending 67000 euro to go.

Wrong forum pal. :pac: Yer either for 'em or yer agin 'em! Now take a torch or pitchfork n' git on yon bandwagon.

yoshytoshy

This isn't a joke or anything ,but if everyone who drives like a lunatic ,drove normally for a couple of days it would probably cover the 67,000.:D

Jimbo

yoshytoshy wrote: »

This isn't a joke or anything ,but if everyone who drives like a lunatic ,drove normally for a couple of days it would probably cover the 67,000.:D

Because it would save on processing speeding tickets?

yoshytoshy

Ah no ,seriously though , I could save myself about a tenner a week by changing my driving habits.
We all have wastes in places that are necessary ,the chinese government are very good to ireland as far as I know.
We have loads of students here that is great for us ,the least we can do is show some respect to them once in a while.

YDMHSSB

Donald-Duck wrote: »

And you'd be whinging if they sent no one, you just want an excuse to act like a child who didn't get his sweets.

ah *** off to be honest, we could have sent dustin the turkey for all i care, i couldn give 2 f*cks. what i do care about is another example of wasted money.

why do we need a goverment minister over there simple as. i sure theres better sporting embassadors that were already there that could have saved us 67000. anybody that defends this farce,is just looking for a reason to be awkward.

ArmaniJeanss

YDMHSSB wrote: »

why do we need a goverment minister over there simple as. i sure theres better sporting embassadors that were already there that could have saved us 67000.
I'm sure theres better sporting embassadors that were already there

Not sending representatives of the government would have been very insulting to the Chinese, and they are an important trading partner for us.
They are hugely into their 'protocol'.
Not sending someone from the government could/would have been intrepreted as some sort of proTibet antiBeijing snub by various vested interests thus causing damage to Ireland.

Sending a sporting ambassador would not have been an acceptable replacement, I suspect we have no-one who is internationally recognised as such anyway.

Sending a minister who happens to both Minister for Sport and for Tourism seems the most sensible one to send to an international gathering of people from 150+ countries.

In no way should this be taken as defending any excess, first class travel is wasteful and the hotel bill seems ott as well.

ejmaztec

Can we have "Politician Hanging" as an Olympic sport? They wouldn't want to be going then.

Cow Moolester

YDMHSSB wrote: »

cos our infrastructure is so bad

Yes because Ireland is a 3rd world country. All the raw materials needed to build the Port tunnel and all the infrastructure projects under the NDP were transported by mules and we are only just making the changes from Homing pidgeons to email.

Obviously 67000 is a bit excessive but what kind of message does it send to other nations if our government reps are flying economy on Virgin to the Olympics and staying in a Travel lodge?

321654

mirror mirror wrote: »

the hotel bill was 33000......19 nights staying in 3 different five star hotels...meals came to 10381 euros...2000 for car hire,17000 on return flights...5000 on internal flights...hotel accomodation was 435 euros per night... private secretary and assisstant secretary for sports and a press advisor went with him... athletes travelled economy class ........what does he need a press advisor for?can he not make up his own mind what to say

So just what they ate could pay one OAPs pension for a whole year. And then they try to rob their medical cards.

WoollyRedHat

slumped wrote: »

Martin Cullen is actually a very knowledgeable man - and you'd be surprised at what he knows.

To say that the Olympics was a 67000 Euro holiday is a bit much.

Firstly, it was work. Unless China is Mr Cullen's favourite holiday destination then he would probably have preferred to go on holidays somewhere else, perhaps with his wife and family. Not with 2 civil servants.

The cost per person is 22,000 each.

Allow, say €3000 per person for flights
Allow, say €250 per night accomodation (14 nights) (3,500 euro)
Allow, say €500 per day for entertainment and food etc. (7,000 euro)
Allow, say €500 per day for transport (7,000)

You're not long accounting for 22,000 per person.

S

So 500 euro per day on food and entertainment then. Sounds like the minister had a capital time ey.

phasers

Would we save money by not going to the Olympics/Eurovision/World Cup?

We should all just sit around the fire and drink and play the tin whistle like we used to

spoonbadger

mirror mirror wrote: »

martin cullen and 3 others went to beijing olympics at a cost of 67000 euros.who picks up the tab for this? minister for sport my a..e he has as much of a clue about sport as my dog ...............:mad:

minister for [X] my ass. he has as much of a clue about [X] as my [household pet of choice].

General equation of government.

Call Me Jimmy

populist crap, lads. shame on ye'z all!

Sam Vimes

javaboy wrote: »

Wrong forum pal. :pac: Yer either for 'em or yer agin 'em! Now take a torch or pitchfork n' git on yon bandwagon.

jaysis i forgot where i was for a minute. let's take the pitchforks and go fork their ma's

DublinDilbert

Cow Moolester wrote: »

Obviously 67000 is a bit excessive but what kind of message does it send to other nations if our government reps are flying economy on Virgin to the Olympics and staying in a Travel lodge?

Sorry who will know how they travelled to China? Will there be people in the airport checking who's getting off each plane?

This is typical Ireland & FF, its all about image, not about function or substance...

Overheal

slumped wrote: »

Martin Cullen is actually a very knowledgeable man - and you'd be surprised at what he knows.

To say that the Olympics was a 67000 Euro holiday is a bit much.

Firstly, it was work. Unless China is Mr Cullen's favourite holiday destination then he would probably have preferred to go on holidays somewhere else, perhaps with his wife and family. Not with 2 civil servants.

The cost per person is 22,000 each.

Allow, say €3000 per person for flights
Allow, say €250 per night accomodation (14 nights) (3,500 euro)
Allow, say €500 per day for entertainment and food etc. (7,000 euro)
Allow, say €500 per day for transport (7,000)

You're not long accounting for 22,000 per person.

S

500 euro per day for entertainment and food? Were they eating caviar off a hookers ass?

twinytwo

Rightly firstly can i say that we didnt ahve to send 3 and you can rest assured that they took the most expensive of everything... its like at the last years 6 nations 3 or 4 ministers were in twicks for the oreland v england game they took the government jet because according to them they were on "official " business.... its about time these muppets were sorted out

Guy:Incognito

DublinDilbert wrote: »

This is typical Ireland & FF, its all about image, not about function or substance...

No, it's typical EVERY country. They all had people at the games and I'll bet the bills were all very similar.