Irish National Team (No Thank You)

Redlancer

Once again we have to listen to how great your Irish rugby team is after beating France today in Croke Park. We have to listen to Tom McGuirk going on and on about Irish flair. What flair? O'Leary kicking into the clouds all day long and a home town ref. As is the norm at very rugby match we then get told by Nugent what college x y and z attended. Why is it the only sport that always has to mention what private college each player attended? Because it is a sport for the snobs of this country.

How come we are never told the schools Andy Lee, Robbie Keane or Colm Cooper attended? I'll tell you why because they are working class people. How many of the great Irish support in Croke Park tonight go to see Shannon/Blackrock/Ballymena play? None.

What boils my blood is listening to people putting Jamie Heaslip up there with Irish legends like Roche,Kelly,Jack O'Shea, Packie Bonner,Denis Irwin etc. This a player who has yet to play in a World Cup and we all no what happened at the last World Cup and by the time the next one comes around we will be sitting at home looking at England/France/Wales trying to strike a blow for the six nations teams.

To top it all a snob like Ryan Tubridy has mentioned the rugby result tonight. The man who doesnt ever mention sport because he knows nothing about sport. However he knows Ireland "Kicked french ass". It makes me sick. Ye can go on to Rome now and sing Ireland's Call if ye want but dont say that Irish rugby team is representing the working class people of Ireland.

Ireland go to Italy next week and they may win. However I have no problem saying here now that England and Scotland will beat them. You can all quote me on that.

Jello

Thanks for that, mr cheerful. Glad to see you're happy like the rest of us :rolleyes:

Judgement Day

Well you certainly have issues and I can't be bothered to deal with them except to say that your prediction of Ireland's Six Nations fortunes are wide of the mark. Obviously you didn't see England's performance today, they couldn't beat their way out of a wet paper bag and I don't imagine that Scotland or Italy will present any great obstacle to Ireland. That leaves just Wales in Ireland's way to the Grand Slam and judging by Ireland's performance today my money wouldn't be on Wales.

mjg

I wonder why you watched the match at all, and at that, watched it on RTE, where the views and opinions of the panel and the commentators are obviously going to be biased towards any and all positives aspects of the Irish team's performance.

It's going to be a long few weeks for you I think, as the result today gives us our best chance of a championship for years. The excitement and interest across the country (apart from the odd chip carrier) and the media will be higher than it usually is for this magnificent competition if things continue to go our way.

I'm afraid all I can suggest is to emigrate until it's over, somewhere with no Irish Bars if possible.

Come on Ireland!

Chucky the tree

Redlancer wrote: »

However I have no problem saying here now that England and Scotland will beat them. You can all quote me on that.

:pac:


Dont worry I will. I really hope the mods dont lock this so it can be bumped.

Orizio

The soccer fans are truly out in force today. Don't ye have your own forum to spout your gibberish?

gosplan

Redlancer wrote: »

Once again we have to listen to how great your Irish rugby team is after beating France today in Croke Park. We have to listen to Tom McGuirk going on and on about Irish flair. What flair? O'Leary kicking into the clouds all day long and a home town ref. As is the norm at very rugby match we then get told by Nugent what college x y and z attended. Why is it the only sport that always has to mention what private college each player attended? Because it is a sport for the snobs of this country.

How come we are never told the schools Andy Lee, Robbie Keane or Colm Cooper attended? I'll tell you why because they are working class people. How many of the great Irish support in Croke Park tonight go to see Shannon/Blackrock/Ballymena play? None.

What boils my blood is listening to people putting Jamie Heaslip up there with Irish legends like Roche,Kelly,Jack O'Shea, Packie Bonner,Denis Irwin etc. This a player who has yet to play in a World Cup and we all no what happened at the last World Cup and by the time the next one comes around we will be sitting at home looking at England/France/Wales trying to strike a blow for the six nations teams.

To top it all a snob like Ryan Tubridy has mentioned the rugby result tonight. The man who doesnt ever mention sport because he knows nothing about sport. However he knows Ireland "Kicked french ass". It makes me sick. Ye can go on to Rome now and sing Ireland's Call if ye want but dont say that Irish rugby team is representing the working class people of Ireland.

Ireland go to Italy next week and they may win. However I have no problem saying here now that England and Scotland will beat them. You can all quote me on that.

lol, whatever you bitter little troll.

They mention the colleges because that's where the players start playing. Because they don't sign 10K professional contracts when they're 16 (unlike your working class heros) they start their rugby profession at their schools.

Anyway, keep sitting in and watching Tubridy on weekends, I'm sure one of these days you'll really start enjoying yourself. :D:D

Derek Zoolander

Redlancer wrote: »

Once again we have to listen to how great your Irish rugby team is after beating France today in Croke Park. We have to listen to Tom McGuirk going on and on about Irish flair. What flair? O'Leary kicking into the clouds all day long and a home town ref. As is the norm at very rugby match we then get told by Nugent what college x y and z attended. Why is it the only sport that always has to mention what private college each player attended? Because it is a sport for the snobs of this country.

How come we are never told the schools Andy Lee, Robbie Keane or Colm Cooper attended? I'll tell you why because they are working class people. How many of the great Irish support in Croke Park tonight go to see Shannon/Blackrock/Ballymena play? None.

What boils my blood is listening to people putting Jamie Heaslip up there with Irish legends like Roche,Kelly,Jack O'Shea, Packie Bonner,Denis Irwin etc. This a player who has yet to play in a World Cup and we all no what happened at the last World Cup and by the time the next one comes around we will be sitting at home looking at England/France/Wales trying to strike a blow for the six nations teams.

To top it all a snob like Ryan Tubridy has mentioned the rugby result tonight. The man who doesnt ever mention sport because he knows nothing about sport. However he knows Ireland "Kicked french ass". It makes me sick. Ye can go on to Rome now and sing Ireland's Call if ye want but dont say that Irish rugby team is representing the working class people of Ireland.

Ireland go to Italy next week and they may win. However I have no problem saying here now that England and Scotland will beat them. You can all quote me on that.

maybe they don't what to represent the likes of yourself...

mcguirk is a tool..I'll give you that..

but we do tend to hear about crumlin utd when Robbie Keane is mentioned and the schools are where these guys learned the game...

Irish legends like Roche (could start his own blood transfusion service)....Irwin and Bonner did f-all in terms of International success...Ireland qualified for one world cup quarter final...hardly world beaters...

Delta Kilo

Redlancer wrote: »

Once again we have to listen to how great your Irish rugby team is after beating France today in Croke Park. We have to listen to Tom McGuirk going on and on about Irish flair. What flair? O'Leary kicking into the clouds all day long and a home town ref. As is the norm at very rugby match we then get told by Nugent what college x y and z attended. Why is it the only sport that always has to mention what private college each player attended? Because it is a sport for the snobs of this country.

How come we are never told the schools Andy Lee, Robbie Keane or Colm Cooper attended? I'll tell you why because they are working class people. How many of the great Irish support in Croke Park tonight go to see Shannon/Blackrock/Ballymena play? None.

What boils my blood is listening to people putting Jamie Heaslip up there with Irish legends like Roche,Kelly,Jack O'Shea, Packie Bonner,Denis Irwin etc. This a player who has yet to play in a World Cup and we all no what happened at the last World Cup and by the time the next one comes around we will be sitting at home looking at England/France/Wales trying to strike a blow for the six nations teams.

To top it all a snob like Ryan Tubridy has mentioned the rugby result tonight. The man who doesnt ever mention sport because he knows nothing about sport. However he knows Ireland "Kicked french ass". It makes me sick. Ye can go on to Rome now and sing Ireland's Call if ye want but dont say that Irish rugby team is representing the working class people of Ireland.

Ireland go to Italy next week and they may win. However I have no problem saying here now that England and Scotland will beat them. You can all quote me on that.

Stall the ball here now for a second. Firstly, that game was all about flair. It had a ferocious intensity from beginning to end. If you think that "flair" is about 90 mins of tapping a football from midfield to the backs and back again,by players who are earning millions for nothing, then I believe you are a hypocrite.

Secondly, the reason they mention what college they attended is not to highlight how big of a snob they are but because that is where rugby has its roots. Its the same as when Ireland (soccer) are playing, they tell you what club they play for. There are many schools and colleges with rugby teams that do very well in the AIB League, for example, and that is why the players play for them. They are just like clubs.

Thirdly, Heaslip had an outstanding performance tonight and is an excellent player so people have the right to compare him to legends such as Bonner, Roche etc if that is their opinion of him.

Fourthly, How far did ROI get in the last Soccer World Cup? Oh ya, thats right we didn't even qualify. Our "star players" were too busy over in England earning the big bucks that they couldn't give a toss about poor old Ireland. The FAI is in a shambles, the team is in a mess. Look at Stephen Ireland. He is very patriotic isn't he? We have a manager that cant speak english and an OAP for an assistant. Oh, were really going to go far in soccer alright.

Ryan Tubridy is presenting an entertainment show that most of the nation will be watching, the same nation that watched and are now celebrating that match. Of course he is going to say something. Its called being a presenter, you know, relating to your audience etc.

The sport is not only "a snobs sport". They are all very nice people. I met Paul O Connell and Jerry flannery in UL. They were 2 of the nicest people I have ever met. Very chatty and gave me loads of advice. Look at Keith Earls. Playing for munster and capped for Ireland. He is a future O'Driscoll. Do you know where he is from?? MOYROSS. My sister taught Alan Quinlans children and it was not in a posh school, it was far from it if you must know! So dont come on here branding all rugby players with the same brush that is not true. It is being very naive.

So yes, I will be shouting for Ireland in Rome and be proud to have the green Jersey on my back and be proud to be Irish and be proud of the 15 men that are representing Ireland at a professional level, not over in England earning as much money as they can.

For the record I am from connaught, not D4 and do not consider myself or my family to be a "snob"

Tech3

Redlancer wrote: »

Once again we have to listen to how great your Irish rugby team is after beating France today in Croke Park.

The media is a different voice to that of the people. The pundits on RTE did say the performance was grounded out and France had plenty of flair so I dont know what your waffling on about.

Jamie Heaslip being a legend. Where did you hear this. Scotland and England will be tough games so you could be right on those but theres no need for all the whineing. Oh and soccer is a girls game

Orizio

tech2 wrote: »

Oh and soccer is a girls game

Can't argue with this kind of logic.

Tech3

Derek Zoolander wrote: »

Irish legends like Roche (could start his own blood transfusion service)....Irwin and Bonner did f-all in terms of International success...Ireland qualified for one world cup quarter final...hardly world beaters...

Exactly the Irish rugby team is alot more succesful and professional than the soccer team. Quarter finals is the minimun goal set for a world cup and were 3rd in the world 2 years ago. Also winning 3 triple crowns in 5 years is another success. Were only a minute from winning the six nations. Have beaten top teams like austrailia and south africa in past tests.

Now what does the national soccer team have to show for their efforts?

SuprSi

Redlancer wrote: »

Once again we have to listen to how great your Irish rugby team is after beating France today in Croke Park. We have to listen to Tom McGuirk going on and on about Irish flair. What flair? O'Leary kicking into the clouds all day long and a home town ref. As is the norm at very rugby match we then get told by Nugent what college x y and z attended. Why is it the only sport that always has to mention what private college each player attended? Because it is a sport for the snobs of this country.

How come we are never told the schools Andy Lee, Robbie Keane or Colm Cooper attended? I'll tell you why because they are working class people. How many of the great Irish support in Croke Park tonight go to see Shannon/Blackrock/Ballymena play? None.

What boils my blood is listening to people putting Jamie Heaslip up there with Irish legends like Roche,Kelly,Jack O'Shea, Packie Bonner,Denis Irwin etc. This a player who has yet to play in a World Cup and we all no what happened at the last World Cup and by the time the next one comes around we will be sitting at home looking at England/France/Wales trying to strike a blow for the six nations teams.

To top it all a snob like Ryan Tubridy has mentioned the rugby result tonight. The man who doesnt ever mention sport because he knows nothing about sport. However he knows Ireland "Kicked french ass". It makes me sick. Ye can go on to Rome now and sing Ireland's Call if ye want but dont say that Irish rugby team is representing the working class people of Ireland.

Ireland go to Italy next week and they may win. However I have no problem saying here now that England and Scotland will beat them. You can all quote me on that.

You sound Irish yet you refer to 'your Irish team'? I don't get it. Yes O'Leary kicking the ball to the French for the first half was uninspiring, and didn't have flair, but the way the team played in the second was inspiring and was something that every Irish person could be proud of, regardless of whether someone on the team attended a particular college or not.

Heaslip deserved the praise he got tonight. Of course nobody in their right mind is realistically going to compare him to professionals who have proven themselves consistently at the highest level - anyone with a modicum of sense would realise that the guys were probably just as pumped up as everyone else watching the game and were probabaly likely to say something silly.

And who cares if Tubridy mentions the team? The whole thing about a national team is that anybody can support it, even those that don't follow the sport. He can be proud of the team, as much as anyone who knows the name and position of every player on the team or anyone who was at the match, and I'm happy that the team gets extra publicity after a great performance and result.

I'm proud of the lads today. I'm a Munster fan and seeing that spirit and determination in the national team made me very happy. So feck off and follow a sport that's without this elitism that so grates you.

LuckyLloyd

Orizio wrote: »

The soccer fans are truly out in force today. Don't ye have your own forum to spout your gibberish?

I'd prefer if you kept this guy tbh.

Fishtits

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'd prefer if you kept this guy tbh.

Says it all really

LightningBolt

tech2 wrote: »

Exactly the Irish rugby team is alot more succesful and professional than the soccer team. Quarter finals is the minimun goal set for a world cup and were 3rd in the world 2 years ago. Also winning 3 triple crowns in 5 years is another success. Were only a minute from winning the six nations. Have beaten top teams like austrailia and south africa in past tests.

It's a hell of a lot harder to qualify for the football wc than it is to "qualify" for the rugby wc.

The whole working/middle class debate is ****e, get over yourselves. It's obvious the higher standard of coaching and playing at schools level means that the national team will have a team that has a high amount of schools players. The football team will generally have lads that played for nurseries like Kevins, Cherry Orchard, Crumlin, Home Farm etc.

Go and watch NFL some time and you'll see that every player has their college listed in their on screen stats.

Padjoe

Redlancer - You really a a muppet of the highest the degree. If you don't like it the dont watch it and stick to wasting your money on the horses. Reading through your profile i came across this post which leads me to believe you are of little inteligence. Check this out . LOL...... Twit....

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Redlancer wrote: »

I was thinking of setting up a casino what I was wondering is just how difficult is it to do this. I hear the government are very strict about this? Also would it be possible to to have an establishment that had casino tables,bookmakers and sold drink all in the one.

I would think not but am interested to know what restrictions etc are in place?

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AlphaMale 3OO

Padjoe wrote: »

Redlancer - You really a a muppet of the highest the degree. If you don't like it the dont watch it and stick to wasting your money on the horses. Reading through your profile i came across this post which leads me to believe you are of little inteligence. Check this out . LOL...... Twit....

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LOL! Thats hillarious.

Seems to be having a bit of lady trouble in his life too. Drop the gambling and take up rugby Redlancer, might get you more success with pulling pussy you fcuking tosser.

Tech3

AlphaMale 3OO wrote: »

LOL! Thats hillarious.

Seems to be having a bit of lady trouble in his life too. Drop the gambling and take up rugby Redlancer, might get you more success with pulling pussy you fcuking tosser.

+1

qwert2

Redlancer wrote: »

Once again we have to listen to how great your Irish rugby team is after beating France today in Croke Park. We have to listen to Tom McGuirk going on and on about Irish flair. What flair? O'Leary kicking into the clouds all day long and a home town ref. As is the norm at very rugby match we then get told by Nugent what college x y and z attended. Why is it the only sport that always has to mention what private college each player attended? Because it is a sport for the snobs of this country.

How come we are never told the schools Andy Lee, Robbie Keane or Colm Cooper attended? I'll tell you why because they are working class people. How many of the great Irish support in Croke Park tonight go to see Shannon/Blackrock/Ballymena play? None.

What boils my blood is listening to people putting Jamie Heaslip up there with Irish legends like Roche,Kelly,Jack O'Shea, Packie Bonner,Denis Irwin etc. This a player who has yet to play in a World Cup and we all no what happened at the last World Cup and by the time the next one comes around we will be sitting at home looking at England/France/Wales trying to strike a blow for the six nations teams.

To top it all a snob like Ryan Tubridy has mentioned the rugby result tonight. The man who doesnt ever mention sport because he knows nothing about sport. However he knows Ireland "Kicked french ass". It makes me sick. Ye can go on to Rome now and sing Ireland's Call if ye want but dont say that Irish rugby team is representing the working class people of Ireland.

Ireland go to Italy next week and they may win. However I have no problem saying here now that England and Scotland will beat them. You can all quote me on that.

I have to say I agree with you Redlancer. It was good to see Ireland win and all that. However this obvious class snobineess gets on my tits. Just heard this Heaslip 'goy' interviewed after the game.... same accent as 'BOD' :rolleyes:

Saying all that, well done and it'd be nice to win the grand slam, but can we make it a game that represents all classes in Ireland?

qwert2

AlphaMale 3OO wrote: »

LOL! Thats hillarious.

Seems to be having a bit of lady trouble in his life too. Drop the gambling and take up rugby Redlancer, might get you more success with pulling pussy you fcuking tosser.

Don't be a sap! Looking at a member's previous posts so you can riducule them just because you don't agree with them!!? Pathetic! Looks like you're the one with the intelligence problem mate

Shan75

All this nonsense talk of "not representing the working class of Ireland" is really pathetic.The team represents everybody who wants to be represented.I can't stand this inverted snobbery some people have.I hate the way people think the so called middle classes are somehow immune from being just as human as all the working class people.

Also claiming there was nobody in Croker who supports their local AIL club is rubbish.I couldn't go to this game today but I know a few people who were there who can be found Saturday afternoons at AIL games.

bk

Redlancer wrote: »

As is the norm at very rugby match we then get told by Nugent what college x y and z attended. Why is it the only sport that always has to mention what private college each player attended?

Not true, during soccer and gaa games they constantly mention what clubs they started out with. Colleges in Rugby is the same as clubs in soccer and gaa.

I think the OP is just sore because Rugby has been having so much success and has easily surpassed soccer as the third most popular sport in Ireland.

NotWormBoy

bk wrote: »

I think the OP is just sore because Rugby has been having so much success and has easily surpassed soccer as the third most popular sport in Ireland.

Not responding to the OP, because I don't feed the trolls, but I wonder if rugby will remain the 3rd most popular sport in Ireland if the soccer team start doing well, coupled with us doing badly (at rugby). We are a fickle nation, after all, and rugby has only been popular for the last ... 4-6 years maybe.

I'd love for rugby to maintain its high profile amongst Irish sports, but I do feel that (as with most Irish supporting successes) its a temporary thing.

Orizio

The chances of the Irish soccer team being successful are far less then that of the rugby team.

And humanity is fickle in general, I wouldn't hold against 'our' nation.

NotWormBoy

Orizio wrote: »

And humanity is fickle in general, I wouldn't hold against 'our' nation.

God, no. Obviously all nations can be fickle, its just that we're so unused to success, once we get a taste... we sometimes can't go back to not having it.

sm.org

NotWormBoy wrote: »

God, no. Obviously all nations can be fickle, its just that we're so unused to success, once we get a taste... we sometimes can't go back to not having it.

Like cocaine or the Celtic Tiger , were going to find it hard to let go of those.

Padjoe

qwert2 wrote: »

Don't be a sap! Looking at a member's previous posts so you can riducule them just because you don't agree with them!!? Pathetic! Looks like you're the one with the intelligence problem mate

Don't be daft - the OP obviously posted his comment to wind ppl up. I was just poking fun back at the egit.

DeVore

I think someone needs a hug, a nap... and maybe a cookie.

DeV.

geurrp the yard

tech2 wrote: »

Exactly the Irish rugby team is alot more succesful and professional than the soccer team. Quarter finals is the minimun goal set for a world cup and were 3rd in the world 2 years ago. Also winning 3 triple crowns in 5 years is another success. Were only a minute from winning the six nations. Have beaten top teams like austrailia and south africa in past tests.

Now what does the national soccer team have to show for their efforts?

Soccer is played in almost every country, rugby isnt, therefore competition will be more greater.Id rather not get into the whole soccer v rugby debate and which is more professional especially on a rugby forum. I dont get why the rte panal get so hyped up after winning one match, i suppose maybe thats just a media thing.

Orizio

We beat the French, we have every right to be hyped up. As would any soccer fan in this position.

holly1

Redlancer wrote: »

Once again we have to listen to how great your Irish rugby team is after beating France today in Croke Park. We have to listen to Tom McGuirk going on and on about Irish flair. What flair? O'Leary kicking into the clouds all day long and a home town ref. As is the norm at very rugby match we then get told by Nugent what college x y and z attended. Why is it the only sport that always has to mention what private college each player attended? Because it is a sport for the snobs of this country.

How come we are never told the schools Andy Lee, Robbie Keane or Colm Cooper attended? I'll tell you why because they are working class people. How many of the great Irish support in Croke Park tonight go to see Shannon/Blackrock/Ballymena play? None.

What boils my blood is listening to people putting Jamie Heaslip up there with Irish legends like Roche,Kelly,Jack O'Shea, Packie Bonner,Denis Irwin etc. This a player who has yet to play in a World Cup and we all no what happened at the last World Cup and by the time the next one comes around we will be sitting at home looking at England/France/Wales trying to strike a blow for the six nations teams.

To top it all a snob like Ryan Tubridy has mentioned the rugby result tonight. The man who doesnt ever mention sport because he knows nothing about sport. However he knows Ireland "Kicked french ass". It makes me sick. Ye can go on to Rome now and sing Ireland's Call if ye want but dont say that Irish rugby team is representing the working class people of Ireland.

Ireland go to Italy next week and they may win. However I have no problem saying here now that England and Scotland will beat them. You can all quote me on that.

:P:rolleyes:Thats what I have to say to the above,fool.

LilOc

Redlancer wrote: »

and a home town ref.

Only thing i agree with in your post. How often will Munster and Ireland be "reffed" by this malevolent (at this level it's not incompetence anymore) would be referee? How come he's still allowed on a rugby pitch after producing farcical homer performances again and again?

10 penalties against France which had the majority of the possession and territory and 2 against Ireland (1st one at the 75th minute...). World Record.

DeVore

dumb soccer troll.

DeV.