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Red Cars = Faded paint

  • 07-02-2009 9:42pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,023 ✭✭✭


    I was lookin at a neighbours car - a 1994 Red Polo and the colour looks totally faded .

    Ive only ever seen this happen to red cars and was wondering is there an effective way to bring it back to life ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Seperate


    Oxidation. There's a scientific explanation alright, something in the make-up of the red single stage colour being more effected by the sun's (if you remember what that is!) rays. It does happen to all single-stage colours, but its not as noticeable.

    A decent polish will sort it out, along with a bit of elbow grease :)

    If you're near a Halfords or motor factors, Autoglym Paint Renovator, followed by Super Resin Polish should do the trick. If you're buying online, there's various options which would usually give better results for in or around the same €€'s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭mgadget


    If its not lacquered (the faded paint will transfer onto the polishing cloth) then good polish and wax and a days work will see results. If it is really bad, may need to use T-cut, which is more abrasive than polish.

    If it is lacquered, then it seems only a respray can bring it back to its former glory.
    Barr wrote: »
    I was lookin at a neighbours car - a 1994 Red Polo and the colour looks totally faded .

    Ive only ever seen this happen to red cars and was wondering is there an effective way to bring it back to life ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,753 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    You can get a long life red paint on Alfas, that doesn't fade...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    it often outlives the rest of the car (etc. etc.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    You can get a long life red paint on Alfas, that doesn't fade...
    THe paint dosn't fade but the car dose. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭green-blood


    you could spend hours and hours hand polishing with paint renovator/SRP or T-cut, which are variatiosn on a theme... or you can have it machine polished, using pro polishes

    polishes - cut paint, remove tiny layer of lacquer/oxidised one coat
    wax - adds protection only

    polish makes it shiney
    wax keeps it that way

    all paint is affected by its environmental conditions and how well/badly it is looked after /washed

    nudge, machine polishing services are available


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    On a 94 Polo, there's no point in paying someone to do it, just buy some T Cut and work away, VW red is particularly bad for this problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭aoibhebree


    mgadget wrote: »
    If it is really bad, may need to use T-cut, which is more abrasive than polish.

    I use T-cut on my red '99 Colt, I find it's really good and keeps it red and shiny for at least a month, takes me (by which I mean my boyfriend!) about 2 hours of hard polishing to get it right though. I didn't realise it was abrasive though? So is it actually damaging my baby?? :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,753 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    it often outlives the rest of the car (etc. etc.)
    The paint doesn't fade but the car does. :pac:

    Run_to_da_hills: if you are going to repeat what the last poster said, at least learn to spell or just cut and paste ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭green-blood


    are you t-cutting every 4 weeks!!

    eventually yes you will do irreversabel damage... once its glossy, get him to wax/seal it.

    red is badly affected due to the affects of the light spectrum in those wavelengths... yellow is poor too, keep your eyes out for yello fiat cinquechentos, dark colours tend to show swirls rather than oxidation


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    In fairness the paint on your average 15 year old car is bound to be faded at this stage unless the car was very well cared for all its life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭aoibhebree


    No I think he does wax it after T-cutting, and I wouldn't do it every four weeks - it's just that after he does it, it lasts about four weeks, but it usually takes a further 2 months or so before I can persuade him to do it again! So is that enough to do damage? Thanks :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,753 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    aoibhebree wrote: »
    So is that enough to do damage? :D

    T-cut damages the paint every time you use it. I would advise against using it often...

    Better option is to look after your car well before it needs t-cut...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    it's going to take a lot more than T-cut to bring my MX-5 back..... :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Seperate


    galwaytt wrote: »
    it's going to take a lot more than T-cut to bring my MX-5 back..... :D

    HERE

    Half a day with a buffer and it'll be back to former glory.

    @aoibhebree: I wouldn't be too concerned. Even if you did use T-Cut every 4 weeks, you'd be a long time seeing the damage its doing. But still, as the lads were saying, if you do the job making it shiney again, just throw a good wax at it afterwards and it'll stay nice and shiney for months rather then weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭mondymike


    i used mer polish and red turtle wax on my 92 mk3 gold and it brought it up well. plus for the black bumpers smooth peanut butter all the way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,136 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    My old red Panda is to my eyes starting to fade horribly but apparently holding up fine - think its psychological... but as its not mine anymore I can't go attack it with a buffer.

    Do metallic reds (and white, and other colours that go off) hold up better to sunlight than non metallic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭Neilw


    galwaytt wrote: »
    it's going to take a lot more than T-cut to bring my MX-5 back..... :D

    HERE

    The clearcoat is damaged on your mx5, only thing for it would be a respray.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭aoibhebree


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    Better option is to look after your car well before it needs t-cut...

    Yes yes, however I only bought the car last summer, it's a really clean car as regards to scratches and dents, however it's quite faded specially towards the back, I don't think the previous owner ever waxed it!! I barely recognised it the first time it was all shined up :) Will keep that in mind though and keep the t-cut for occasional use!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭green-blood


    dump the t-cut, its a primitive concoction, get some Super resin Polish and a decent wax, even a good old tub of Turtle wax, the hard wax, not paste ort liquid. €25 and you'll see far better results


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