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AIMAA Taekwondo
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06-02-2009 1:08am#1
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Unpossible wrote: »Oh, pity it was sounding interesting, I'm just not big on the idea of losing if I KO my opponent (not that I ever have KO'ed one). What made me wonder was the fact that they were wearing helmets in the video I saw of their competition.
Thats just insurance purposes!
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Unpossible wrote: »Oh, pity it was sounding interesting, I'm just not big on the idea of losing if I KO my opponent (not that I ever have KO'ed one). What made me wonder was the fact that they were wearing helmets in the video I saw of their competition.
Helmets are worn as an insurance against axe/cresent kicks etc coming down on the crown of the head, as well as just serving a general protection purpose.
OP:
AIMAA is Grandmaster Hee Il Cho's Taekwondo. It's not ITF, or WTF or anything other than Cho's tkd. AIMAA, however, competes in competitions under ITF rules, as well as Global Kicking Boxing Competitions, other Mixed arts competitions and of course, AIMAA competitions.
Also, you can find videos of any art being butchered on youtube - judo, mui thai, karate, tkd... the list is endless. saying AIMAA is ' fairly bad ' and listing youtube as your source is like claiming you have a friendly and long lasting relationship with a leprachaun because you've eaten lucky charms. Once.
Focus: You're obviously happy to jumnp to conclusions about a martial art after watching a few youtube videos. Why not balance that view on AIMAA and research Grandmaster Cho, Master Kirkwood, Master Darcy or any of the other instructors. I'm sure then you'll appreciate these men (and women) are talented martial artists, and have a bit more respect for AIMAA once you've done that
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yes you are right ITF is not actully a style, but rather the system founded by the late Grand Master and founder of Tae Kwon do. So all of us or those who claim to follow Tae-Kwon do should be greatful to Grand Master Gen Choi. Grand Master Heel Cho was one of his students therefore what he learnth from Grand Master Gen Choi was passed on to him. So what Aimaa, Teaches is Tae Kwon do The style of Grand Master Gen Choi. therefore Aimaa follows the Patterns of ITF. But new moves have been introduced like A block with side Kick, which Aimaa does not do and some other things. So you can say old style new style. But at the end of the day Aimaa teaches what was thought by GrandMaster Gen Choi thought, making it ITF.
Yours in TKD
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in ITF tkd all 9th degrees are recognised as grandmasters and there are several nowadays, so yeah he was one although he never graded since he automatically became the highest possible grade as the founder.He was only a 2nd dan shotokan at the time with some training in taekyon.Taekwondo in the beginning was karate withh a few kicks thrown in and it gradually distanced itself from karate with technical changes like the sine wave .
oh you don't have to give me a TKD history lesson
as far as i know besides the claim to have a 2nd dan in shotokan, he did get a 4th dan from the chungdokwan. but due to falling out with the kwans it was stripped from him.
he was always known as "The General" in the Ohdokwan because it was a military unit kwan.
for someone to be promoted to 9th dan choi hong hi would have be above that. so the founder title allowed for this. he would not allow hmself to be called a 10th dan as this would go against his teachings on 9 being the highest number.0 -
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Tim_Murphy wrote: »I bet ye could argue about it all day but nobody can tell me what actual difference it makes.
Don't you see?? He's not just any old master, he's a Grand Master.
GRAND!!0 -
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mark.leonard wrote: »start a new thread or pm pma-ire my money says he can help you answer this question.
wow mark thanks
this might be worth another thread 0 -
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Tim_Murphy wrote: »Jon,
Remember the arguments you had with me about this over on itf-online?
LOL indeed! Good times 0 -
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GM Park left the ITF in 1990, sine wave was in existence since 1982/3. His departure didn't do anything to change sine wave or make it different. However Gen. Choi did undermine him at many seminars when he started to do them himself.
sinewave before gm park's departure was not the sinewave that was in practice afterwards. it was also not called sinewave as a definition but called natural motion look at the videos from the 80's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQZjPcGeoj8&feature=related
not a sign of sinewave (there is a pun in there somewhere?? ), the general was talking about it, but only in relation to the natural motion of a person moving from an up right position to a lower position in a stance and back up again as they move out of that position.
after park and master kwang jo choi etc left sinewave became the definition of movement in ITF Chang Hon TKD and became the drop, raise and drop motion it is today.
this form of motion has no basis in practical combat use and was a political statement weather you go with the anti-WTF or anti-departed members line.0 -
sinewave before gm park's departure was not the sinewave that was in practice afterwards. it was also not called sinewave as a definition but called natural motion look at the videos from the 80's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQZjPcGeoj8&feature=related
not a sign of sinewave (there is a pun in there somewhere?? ), the general was talking about it, but only in relation to the natural motion of a person moving from an up right position to a lower position in a stance and back up again as they move out of that position.
after park and master kwang jo choi etc left sinewave became the definition of movement in ITF Chang Hon TKD and became the drop, raise and drop motion it is today.
this form of motion has no basis in practical combat use and was a political statement weather you go with the anti-WTF or anti-departed members line.
The term sine wave came into being as early as the 15 volume set was launched in 83/85. Before that it had many interpretations, CK Choi called it natural movement, Kim Young Soo called it knee spring- a term I prefer to use, as the term sine wave doesn't really do it any justice.
The thing is, knee spring motion has been evolving since they first started to use it, as you can see in the North Korean video you posted it is different there as to how it is performed now but it is there, and even years before that, it was different with more emphasis on lifting the hip up as opposed to pulling it back as in hip twist.
The big difference post Park JT (according to my well informed sources) was that Gen Choi put more emphasis on the downward motion of the movement, saying Park JT had taught this bit "wrong" - of course Gen Choi was lying as he made Park the chairman of the instruction committee and paid regular visits to the week long IIC's that Park led at the time. 0 -
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i use hip twist quite well when throwing hands thank you very muchNone of it does, not sine wave, not hip twist not reaction force not knee spring, not any of it.
as does this guy it seems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UJaVWd9ecQ0 -
The term sine wave came into being as early as the 15 volume set was launched in 83/85. Before that it had many interpretations, CK Choi called it natural movement, Kim Young Soo called it knee spring- a term I prefer to use, as the term sine wave doesn't really do it any justice.
The thing is, knee spring motion has been evolving since they first started to use it, as you can see in the North Korean video you posted it is different there as to how it is performed now but it is there, and even years before that, it was different with more emphasis on lifting the hip up as opposed to pulling it back as in hip twist.
The big difference post Park JT (according to my well informed sources) was that Gen Choi put more emphasis on the downward motion of the movement, saying Park JT had taught this bit "wrong" - of course Gen Choi was lying as he made Park the chairman of the instruction committee and paid regular visits to the week long IIC's that Park led at the time.
so you agree with me then! excellent 0 -
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i use hip twist quite well when throwing hands thank you very much
as does this guy it seems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UJaVWd9ecQ
Try hitting that guys pressure points :P0 -
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