Anxious over been recruited? have you ever considered joining a force abroad ?????

innercitydub1

Hey im new to this but have been a reader of the thread for a very long time. The topic i am rasing on this thread is not 100 percent focused on the garda. Yet i feel it should be kept in the garda section as it is relating to people wanting to join the garda but are anxious to when or ever will they will get another chance. And even when they do the compition chances of getting are quite competive, so you could be sitting around for years before you get in.

Anyways i will begin ,The last few weeks i have been getting quite anxious of waiting around for the next garda recruitment drives to begin and it has me thinking of joining a number of forces abroad.

Particuly the New Zealand police force

If i didnt become a garda it was always my ambition to live in another country and the thought of living and working in new zealand has been growing on me alot the last few weeks.

They have excellent living standerds,Beutifal landscape. good living conditions .great education .culture.low crime and have a climate similar to us in most parts of the country.

Along with all of these atrractions they are currently recruiting in bulk as the contry has had a boost of population as of recently
Anyways i wont waffle on anymore

heres there website have a look for yourself

www.police.govt.nz/

hope to hear some feed back

One more question i would like to bring up regarding all of the above is has anybody found themself in the same situation as myself?? and considered or has moved to a diffrent location to pursue thee dream of working as a police officer

Thanks for your time hope to hear your thoughts everyone

innercitydub1

canda also have been taking on new members at the moment

here is a link if you want to check them out

http://www.edmontonpolice.ca/joineps.aspx


http://www.saps.gov.za/docs_publs/publications/journal/nov07/index.htm

jt123456

First things that springs to mind when i read this thread is permanent residency, visa's, immigration permits etc etc... New zealand would be great to live in but through that link and answering the qualifying questions one big thing stands out.
"You need to be permanently residing in New Zealand before you are able to make an application to join the NZ Police. If you are a currently serving Police Officer we may be able to assist with Immigration. Please see Applications from currently serving overseas Police Officers."

So you would be looking at moving there first, gaining permanent residency somehow, and getting a full driving licence there, before applying which is gonna take a few years. Seems to be the same for canada. I remember reading a post on the ES forum about a Garda that transferred after good few years service to australia and loved it but of course you'd want to be well out of probation before you can do that.

AGS and the UK police forces only require you to be a member of an EU/EEA country so they get a wider scope of possible applicants.

My recommendation is go for AGS if you really want it beause its a great career, but if you think you are gonna be waiting a few years before starting then go travelling or do a working holiday but be within easy reach of phone/email/flight home on short notice incase you need to act qucikly.

As for the South Africa police... All I say is you'd want to be a very brave person to work there.

metman

jt123456 wrote: »

AGS and the UK police forces only require you to be a member of an EU/EEA country so they get a wider scope of possible applicants.

Police forces in the UK now require you to be resident for a minimum of 3 years immediately prior to application.

EPS in Canada will consider international applicants but it is a very lengthy application process and will also cost you financially in the first instance (I know officers who have applied and it has taken 2+ years to process applications). Calgary takes international transfers. RCMP/TOPD/VPD all require citizenship.

NZ, Australia and the USA all require citizenship/permanent residency (though the first two periodically take serving officers on transfer).

innercitydub1

jt123456 says As for the South Africa police... All I say is you'd want to be a very brave person to work there

Ive heard the stories about south africa aswell

but my uncles served in the rhodesian police force and then in the early 90s moved to the south africa police force they said its not as bad as people think just like any other city with the exception of johansburg.

id also like to note that when he served in the rhodesion police force which changed into the zimbabwe police they had one of the lowest crime rates in the world 70s early 80s

Anyways ive took all that into account and have been looking at finsihing my degree in either canda or new zealand this way it would give me a oppurtunity to gain all the requirments to apply

I have a british passport and i am a british citzen so would this make me eligble as canda and new zealand are a part of the british commonwealth??

hope someone nos??

innercitydub1

Was just looking at the scottish police service

http://www.lbp.police.uk/recruitment/recruitment-process.asp

there recruiting at the moment

metman

http://www.lbp.police.uk/recruitment/faqs.asp

Q: How long do I have to reside in the UK before I can apply to Lothian and Borders Police?
A: A minimum of 3 years.

Same as with the other UK forces I'm afraid.

Also British citizenship has no bearing on Canada or New Zealand. I know officers that have applied for transfer to both jurisdictions and being British didn't make any difference as regards visa waiver.

innercitydub1

Hey metman

As for joining the Scottish police i am a British citizen.
Would this make me eligble???

However the longest i have lived in Briton each time has been a year.
I have live in Dublin Ireland for most of my life

Anyways Would this make me eligble???

metman

innercitydub1 wrote: »

Hey metman

As for joining the Scottish police i am a British citizen.
Would this make me eligble???

However the longest i have lived in Briton each time has been a year.
I have live in Dublin Ireland for most of my life

Anyways Would this make me eligble???

Best thing to do is ring them up and find out!

GA361

AFAIK the LAPD doesn't require you to be an American citizen.
You just have to have started the Process

Xabs

GA361 wrote: »

AFAIK the LAPD doesn't require you to be an American citizen.
You just have to have started the Process

Does having started the thought process count??

daithip

Western Australian Police recruited within AGS a few years back. About 10 guys resigned from the Gardai and headed out to Perth and I think they didn't have to undergo full training, just a type of in service training as they had already done their full Garda training, i.e. most legislation and police practices being the same .

They have a website with information on recruitment, including international applicants. Looks appealing.

http://www.stepforward.wa.gov.au/

TheNog

daithip wrote: »

Western Australian Police recruited within AGS a few years back. About 10 guys resigned from the Gardai and headed out to Perth and I think they didn't have to undergo full training, just a type of in service training as they had already done their full Garda training, i.e. most legislation and police practices being the same .

They have a website with information on recruitment, including international applicants. Looks appealing.

http://www.stepforward.wa.gov.au/

Certianly does. Thought about it myself only Im still in probation. On and not forgetting the family either

daithip

Would seriously consider it myself but can't convince Mrs Daithip, although the recession might be a blessing in disguise.;)

innercitydub1

Yes i find myself wanting to take the plunge and go for it but my what if side of my brain keeps holding back.

however last night i sent off my application for the scottish police and i also got back my date for tests for the psni last friday

still i hope something happens with the garda, if not i shall go with what ever way the wind takes me and see how things pan out

anybody in the same boat???

Dubbhoy

Hi lads,

Just nt too sure about this, Do u not need to live in Scotland a few years before applying !?

DAX1

Just wondering if there are many on here who have applied for the PSNI since the news on the recruitment ban in AGS?
I applied two weeks ago, got my date for the aptitude test, reading todays sunday tribune there is a big article on the IRA and a press statement in which they specify that they will be targetting new recruits in the PSNI (specifically roman catholics, so being from the republic would make you even more of a target).
Wondering if anyone is in the same situation as myself and how they feel about this? To be honest, after reading the article I have decided to pull out of the application process, I dont think it's worth the worry you would have up there....

Shield

Please try and get your facts right DAX1. The article was NOT on the IRA. The more you harp on about the same newspaper article in different threads, the more you're playing into their hands. Like I said before, they're hoping that a few threats here and there will invoke the reaction you are displaying.

So far, 50% of your posts are referring to this small group of thugs, and how they have influenced you to withdraw your application. If that's all it takes, then I suggest you reconsider your notion to become a law enforcement officer anywhere in the world.

Gardai are in danger every day as well. Let's not forget a Garda was shot in Dublin less than 2 years ago during a routine traffic stop.

Does it make you feel better not knowing about the larger groups of people that would kill unarmed Gardai without a thought, if they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?

Scumbags are everywhere. Some just get media coverage because it sells papers.

DAX1 wrote: »

Just wondering if there are many on here who have applied for the PSNI since the news on the recruitment ban in AGS?
I applied two weeks ago, got my date for the aptitude test, reading todays sunday tribune there is a big article on the IRA and a press statement in which they specify that they will be targetting new recruits in the PSNI (specifically roman catholics, so being from the republic would make you even more of a target).
Wondering if anyone is in the same situation as myself and how they feel about this? To be honest, after reading the article I have decided to pull out of the application process, I dont think it's worth the worry you would have up there....

DAX1

1st of all the article was on the IRA, it was hardly an interview with FARC or ETA.
Second of all ,I only wanted people's opinions on this. If you are going to get upset that I am letting people know about this threat, maybe you should stick to the PSNI thread.
Thirdly, I know there is a risk in every police force in the world but you seem to think it is no different when a terrorist organzation come out and say they will be targetting new recruits to the PSNI.
And finally, it doesn't affect you as it specifies that they will be targetting new recruits.

Shield

Firstly, the article was on the "Real IRA", who are a separate group from the IRA. As previously stated, causing people to think the article was on the IRA would cause them to think that these thugs have a much bigger membership and capacity than they actually do.

Secondly, you are entitled to ask for people's opinions, but when your posts are tantamount to scaremongering other people from the Republic, I have a right to step in. There is no evidence that people from the Republic would be an extra special target as you say here. This is not true, and it should not go unchallenged. If you have specific information on this matter that you think the PSNI should be aware of, you should inform us through the proper channels.

Thirdly, if you needed to see it in print, then I stand by my initial statement - it's not the job for you. If you applied in the mistaken belief that there was no threat, then perhaps you were naive? There are bigger and much more organised groups in the Republic than these clowns.

Lastly, of course it affects me. It affects all members of the PSNI if our colleagues are a target. I'm surprised you would think that.

Because you're new, I'm willing to let your "maybe you should stick to the PSNI thread" comment go. The word "Moderator" under my name should tell you that you're on a forum that I moderate. You generally don't say that to moderators. Just a friendly word in your ear. Fair enough?

DAX1 wrote: »

1st of all the article was on the IRA, it was hardly an interview with FARC or ETA.
Second of all ,I only wanted people's opinions on this. If you are going to get upset that I am letting people know about this threat, maybe you should stick to the PSNI thread.
Thirdly, I know there is a risk in every police force in the world but you seem to think it is no different when a terrorist organzation come out and say they will be targetting new recruits to the PSNI.
And finally, it doesn't affect you as it specifies that they will be targetting new recruits.

Tommy O'Cruise

If you join WA police from AGS,

Best to be very upfront!

http://www.drogheda-independent.ie/news/exgarda-in-oz-controversy-2985585.html