can landlord do this?

madmik

I have lost my job recently and would like to claim social welfare,but the landlord doesnt want to sign any forms

this means i cant get normal dole or rent allowance

I am the only tenant and the rent is 750 a month

I am living there 8months so far

Is there anyway to "make" a landord sign the forms or report him to anyone or can landlords refuse if they wish?

I cant see any reason why hed refuse unless he hasnt been paying tax or whatever

miju

you got it in one madmax he's more than likely refusing to sign those forms because he's not paying tax and to be quite frank in this climate thats his problem not yours.

Give him another call ask him again nicely and if he says no just say nicely thats fine I will lodge a complaint / make an enquiry with the PRTB ( www.prtb.ie ) and let them handle it on my behalf.

madmik

its not as if hes "strapped for cash"

he owns around 20 properties i know of

Its unnfortunate situation but i could not predict my job loss when i signed the lease and i think hes being unfair but obviously my opinion is biased

can he kick me out for asking for social welfare ?

or threatening to report him to the prtb?

miju

he can certainly try to but he'd be potentially landing himself in very hot water. The best thing to do would be to ring the PRTB and get their advice on your exact rights here because I'm not 100% and last thing I'd want to do is to give dodgy advice.

Mrs OBumble

Exactly what form do you need him to sign so you can claim the dole???

leeroybrown

JustMary wrote: »

Exactly what form do you need him to sign so you can claim the dole???

For Jobseekers Benefit/Allowance I think they generally require proof of where you live. During the summer I had a friend living in my house free of charge. They were out of work at the time and I had to provide a letter detailing this so that their application could be processed. The rent relief requires it for a far more obvious reason.

As was pointed out above, the most likely reason that the landlord won't sign is that they're not properly registered. There's also the possibility that rental costs in the area have increased since you agreed your lease and they'll make more money if they get you to move out.

madmik

leeroybrown wrote: »

For Jobseekers Benefit/Allowance I think they generally require proof of where you live. During the summer I had a friend living in my house free of charge. They were out of work at the time and I had to provide a letter detailing this so that their application could be processed. The rent relief requires it for a far more obvious reason.

As was pointed out above, the most likely reason that the landlord won't sign is that they're not properly registered. There's also the possibility that rental costs in the area have increased since you agreed your lease and they'll make more money if they get you to move out.

if anything i would say that rental prices have fallen since i moved in 8 months ago

I have checked the prtb website and it seems the apartment is not on their list of rented properties

its a bad situation because i paid ****loads of tax when i was working and now i seem to be in a position where i can claim nothing back due to ann overly-greedy landlord

Mrs OBumble

leeroybrown wrote: »

For Jobseekers Benefit/Allowance I think they generally require proof of where you live. During the summer I had a friend living in my house free of charge. They were out of work at the time and I had to provide a letter detailing this so that their application could be processed.

This requirement can be met by a recent power bill in your name, bank statement posted to you , or letter from the revenue. If you're not paying any of the bills, then get the latter to send you a P21 from some recent year.

Your landlord does not need to sign the paper for rent relief: if you provide them name and the property address, the revenue can find them. And will look hard to make sure that they've been declaring the rental income

Rent allowance is different, but I'd be surprised if you'd get it if you're paying as much as 750/month (the max rent allowed does depend on the area though).

delllat

JustMary wrote: »

This requirement can be met by a recent power bill in your name, bank statement posted to you , or letter from the revenue. If you're not paying any of the bills, then get the latter to send you a P21 from some recent year.

Your landlord does not need to sign the paper for rent relief: if you provide them name and the property address, the revenue can find them. And will look hard to make sure that they've been declaring the rental income

Rent allowance is different, but I'd be surprised if you'd get it if you're paying as much as 750/month (the max rent allowed does depend on the area though).

Id be happy if they paid half of it or some other amount they consider suitable

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PurpleBerry

delllat wrote: »

Id be happy if they paid half of it or some other amount they consider suitable

I'm sorry but that's not the way it works. You will be told to find somewhere suitable within the right price bracket or renegiotiate the rent with your landlord to meet the pre-determined level. They won't pay part of your rent. What made you think they would?

madmik

Neesa wrote: »

I'm sorry but that's not the way it works. You will be told to find somewhere suitable within the right price bracket or renegiotiate the rent with your landlord to meet the pre-determined level. They won't pay part of your rent. What made you think they would?

whats the differnce in them paying 350 of my current 750 rent or them insisting i move to somewhere that costs say 600 and them paying all of it??

theyre going to lose more doing it their way

jaffa20

madmik wrote: »

whats the differnce in them paying 350 of my current 750 rent or them insisting i move to somewhere that costs say 600 and them paying all of it??

theyre going to lose more doing it their way

Yeah it's a pain alrite, but the way see it is if you can afford to pay a big chunk of the rent yourself, then you shouldn't be getting any of the rent allowance while claiming the dole. It's something like 98euro per week max for dublin area that your rent has to cost to claim rent allowance. So then they'll pay all of it except 13euro which you pay out of your dole money. The rest is meant for living expenses.

There is not many places going for under 98e/week nor places that accept rental allowance in the first place!!

Ticktactoe

madmik wrote: »

its a bad situation because i paid ****loads of tax when i was working and now i seem to be in a position where i can claim nothing back due to ann overly-greedy landlord

Claim your Rent Tax relief... especially if you were paying tax and renting last year as you will get a lump sum refund which would be quite useful now. If you were working and paying tax so far this year, claim that back too by sending in a P50 with parts 2 and 3 of your p45. When doing that also claim the rent credit for this year and you will receive more back. Your entitled to this money even if your landlord is been inconvenient so go get it!