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Federal tyres

  • 04-02-2009 11:15am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭


    I need ney tyres! Idrive a 2.0l Diesel.
    Im looking at this one:
    http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m4b0s741p30904

    I have never heard of Federal tyres.Can any one give me their opinion on these tyres?....Good or Bad?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Tiretest.com rates them near to the excellent Pirelli P Nero Zero tires. I have a set of Federal 17"s on my Cooper S Works, and try as I might, they will not step out of line. Oodles of grip in the wet or dry, and even though I've fitted a 320mm 6 piston brake setup to my car, they perform well under very heavy braking too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,826 ✭✭✭Neilw


    Federal would be considered a budget tyre, I wouldn't put them on a silage pit.

    If your looking for a budget tyre, these are getting good reviews.
    http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m4b0s741p12907

    I wouldn't be putting cheap tyres on an mpv that your going to be carrying children in. Tyres are the only connection between you and the road, don't skimp on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,722 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    ned78 wrote: »
    Tiretest.com rates them near to the excellent Pirelli P Nero Zero tires. I have a set of Federal 17"s on my Cooper S Works, and try as I might, they will not step out of line. Oodles of grip in the wet or dry, and even though I've fitted a 320mm 6 piston brake setup to my car, they perform well under very heavy braking too.

    surprised to hear that ned, any experience i have had of them is that they are borderline dangerous :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,722 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    of thats available there id be going for one of the vredestein offerings, much better than anything else on offer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭Mr.David


    +1 for the falkens - by far the best budget tyres. i too though would go for the vred's


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Neilw wrote: »
    Federal would be considered a budget tyre, I wouldn't put them on a silage pit.

    Hrm, well, I'm putting over 200 bhp through them, wet and dry, and braking hard on them and they haven't missed a beat. Road noise is low on them too, and the last time I went for a blast with a mate who has almost the same car as me running Pirellis, I found myself wanting to overtake him.

    Interestingly, Federal have received quality awards from Honda, Ford, and Opel too. They're also an active promoter of Motorsport and Drifting ... so not budget apart from price it seems!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭Mr.David


    I agree with ned78 - the Federals are a decent tyre priced competitively. The only issue I've heard is that they can (sometimes) deform after a few thousand kms but they aint bad in terms of grip alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭AlanD


    I have federals on my 607 and I have found them great tbh. Nice grip, decent in the wet, but they are soft enough and so will wear quite quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    AlanD wrote: »
    soft enough and so will wear quite quickly.

    Soft = grip :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭homer90


    Cyrus wrote: »
    of thats available there id be going for one of the vredestein offerings, much better than anything else on offer

    +1 ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    I have been using Federals myself for the last couple of years and have found them very good. Have not found myself lacking grip at any stage, but then again, I don't race around much!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭The Gambler 101


    I had feds on 18" rs4's and taught they were terrible tyre, they seem to go to nothing very quickly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭homer90


    I had feds on 18" rs4's and taught they were terrible tyre, they seem to go to nothing very quickly!

    Wonder why ? :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭The Gambler 101


    yea wud nt say the alloys helped, but had other tyres on them and they lasted alot longer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Different tires last different lengths of time depending on the purpose they were built for. For example, on my old Honda Blackbird, if I put a Michelin Pilot Sport on the rear, I might get 1200 miles from it, but I'd know it had superb grip no matter what. If I put an Avon on the back, I'd get 4k miles, but a very slippery 4k miles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭askU


    ned78 wrote: »
    Different tires last different lengths of time depending on the purpose they were built for. For example, on my old Honda Blackbird, if I put a Michelin Pilot Sport on the rear, I might get 1200 miles from it, but I'd know it had superb grip no matter what. If I put an Avon on the back, I'd get 4k miles, but a very slippery 4k miles.

    you mean 12,000 miles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    No no, my bike used to eat tires in about 1200 miles. Hungry girl she was!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭dcGT


    Yeah generally, with tires, grip and longevity are mutually exclusive. I've found it hard to get a good balance. Has anyone succeeded? Of course, price is the 3rd side of the triangle :rolleyes:

    DC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭askU


    Celtxx wrote: »
    I have been using Federals myself for the last couple of years and have found them very good. Have not found myself lacking grip at any stage, but then again, I don't race around much!

    What do you drive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭endasmail


    i think them federal tyres are decent ,have them on my golf,not a bother on them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,967 ✭✭✭mrmac


    ned78 wrote: »
    Tiretest.com rates them ...........

    This site seems to be just a collection of sponsored links.

    Any other good sites for tyre reviews?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,698 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    If you need a good budget tyre, try Falken FK 452. They are budget but are a high performance tyre.

    http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m4b443s0p0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Just to ressurect this thread, I'm back from Silverstone at the weekend from the MINI United Festival, and in the open track segment, I came second from 8th ... on Federals. Budget my arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭quarryman


    indeed. I've seen so many comments on this forum about certain tyres being crap based on no experience themselves:
    Federal would be considered a budget tyre, I wouldn't put them on a silage pit.

    Considered by who? Are you just looking at the price tag and making that judgement?
    If you're not going to back it up with evidence don't say it.

    And what's this about "the only thing connecting you to the road". Actually the entire car connects me to the road, I'd prefer to be in a Ford Focus with Federals than a POS Seicento with Pirellis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭B00MSTICK


    FK 452's are the way to go IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭woody33


    Any love for Toyo tyres out there? It's an Japanese/American company, I hear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭PaulKK


    woody33 wrote: »
    Any love for Toyo tyres out there? It's an Japanese/American company, I hear.

    Had Toyo Proxies T1Rs before and found them very good in the dry but didn't have the same confidence in the wet, they weren't too bad though. Got about 10km miles out of them on the front of my passat in 215/45ZR17.

    Have Goodyear Eagle F1s now and find them very good allround, they are in around the same price too.


    I find it amusing how some people say x brand of tyre is crap, all the brands produce a high range of tyres, one person could say bridgestone are crap and have cheaper ones, someone else could have potenzas and say their great. You need to take the 'model' of tyre into account.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,812 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Nothing wrong with Nankang either. Ive had Nankang NS2 225/45/18 on an Audi TT quattro and they were nice tyres. Not overly long lasting but you cannot have everything. Lots of comments about them being "ditch finders" etc but I wouldnt agree and I did push them alot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,722 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    nangkang ns2s are pretty bad aswell, passable in the dry rubbish in the wet, my mum has them on her 3 series coupe

    the worst thing is that local garages charge you the same amount for tyres like those as you would get decent tyres for online,

    a lot of people are posting here saying they have budget tyres on this and that and they are fine, most days they probably will be, but not when it matters :(

    maybe federal do have a decent tyre, ive not come across it myself but the federals i inherited on one of my old cars were awful, like plastic ss955 or something like that

    id agree with the recommendations for falken 452s as good vfm tyres


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 gerry20


    Any comments on getting Federal 225/45 R18 for my rear tyres on my BMW 320cd?

    I called a garage today and they priced me €125 each.

    Also priced me €165 for Hankook.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭MuppetCheck


    When I bought the VRS the garage put them on the front. They were a disaster, power of delivery of the diesels meant the traction control light was on at anything other than mild throttle. I'd spend the extra for something decent. I swapped them myself after a few weeks. They were Federal SS595's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,487 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Hankooks are not that cheap in that size.

    I had these on my old E90 and they were a great tyre, would recommend them over the Hankooks:

    http://www.oponeo.ie/details-tyre/vredestein-ultrac-sessanta-225-45-r18-95-y-xl#69826847


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 390 ✭✭mossy50


    federal tyres = chinese crap had them on my van since xmas 2013 and were brutal and now swapped for a set of marshal tyres which have been suprisingly very good stay the hell away from chinese tyres there cheap for a reason


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭Sobanek


    I've a set of Federals Super Steel 595 on my BMW, 255/35/18 in the back and 225/40/18 in the front. While I can't complain about the grip in the dry (they're quite good), they're rubbish in the wet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭dmc17


    They're also noisy fcukers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭nd


    Falken ZE914 seem to get very good reviews and ratings and are well priced.

    http://www.oponeo.ie/details-tyre/falken-ze-914-225-45-r18-95-w-xl#70256008


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭PeteK*


    Are there any disadvantages to Run Flat Tyres?

    Which brand of tyres really are the best?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭visual


    PeteK* wrote: »
    Are there any disadvantages to Run Flat Tyres?

    Which brand of tyres really are the best?

    Cost & ride comfort are a disadvantage plus
    many places don't like reparing them when they get a puncture.

    Other than what I mentioned there is the obvious advantage that you can continue to drive if you get a puncture


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    I love good years myself.


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