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rudeness on the internet

  • 02-02-2009 3:00pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭


    Hiya I was just wondering did anyone else find that people are waaaaaay more abusive and confrontational under the veil of anonymity on the internet. I just can't help but feel that either I mix in entirely different circles to some of those people OR people just get really rude and abusive because they can!!!

    any thoughts on this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    I have a feeling this is linked to the thread where you ran a light, mouthed off to the guard, did not have your tax paid and then people rightly told you off for not taking responsibility for your actions but acusing the guard of being on a power trip.

    People are many things on the internet- the opposite gender, rude, etc.

    People also take things to heart a little more than they should in these situations.

    There is a policy here of attacking the post, not the poster and the mods are here to enforce this.

    This thread is a generalisation, which as such cannot be proved or disproved.

    Common sense will dictate that the veil of anonimity will protect you to some degree but seeing as you are new here you will learn that Boads is not really anonomyous as anyone posting here for a while will have met at boards beers etc.

    In my experience people react rather than attack. You received a reaction to your attack. That's life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    I have a feeling this is linked to the thread where you ran a light, mouthed off to the guard, did not have your tax paid and then people rightly told you off for not taking responsibility for your actions but acusing the guard of being on a power trip.

    People are many things on the internet- the opposite gender, rude, etc.

    People also take things to heart a little more than they should in these situations.

    There is a policy here of attacking the post, not the poster and the mods are here to enforce this.

    This thread is a generalisation, which as such cannot be proved or disproved.

    Common sense will dictate that the veil of anonimity will protect you to some degree but seeing as you are new here you will learn that Boads is not really anonomyous as anyone posting here for a while will have met at boards beers etc.

    In my experience people react rather than attack. You received a reaction to your attack. That's life.

    it was actually something I have been thinking about for some time. I was asking people's opinions not asking them to prove or disprove something and as for taking things to heart I find rudeness on or offline unnecessary. I am of the opinion that people 'let go' a little more than they would face to face. Im thinknig if I met you in 'real life' and you spoke the way you did online here to me I would think your a sap! your rude and abusive and I didn't start this thread for round 2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭ronaneire


    jellybeans wrote: »
    it was actually something I have been thinking about for some time. I was asking people's opinions not asking them to prove or disprove something and as for taking things to heart I find rudeness on or offline unnecessary. I am of the opinion that people 'let go' a little more than they would face to face. Im thinknig if I met you in 'real life' and you spoke the way you did online here to me I would think your a sap! your rude and abusive and I didn't start this thread for round 2

    Moan moan moan... I also read your blog earlier about getting pulled over this morning. We all are entitled to our opinions. If you don't like what ppl have to say don't reply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    people are allowed their opinions Ronan but it's rudeness and abusiveness Im talking about. If you think thats moaning fine, I think it's rude! A bit of kindness goes a long way you should try it sometime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    I think it is used for theraputic purposes also..just a good ol' rant to clear the pent up cob webs is good..:) am guilty as hell of picking fights every so often just because I am in the mood..nothing personal;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    I think it is used for theraputic purposes also..just a good ol' rant to clear the pent up cob webs is good..:) am guilty as hell of picking fights every so often just because I am in the mood..nothing personal;)

    thats exactly what I thought and I bet you wouldn't do it face to face???? you shouldn't do it though, I don't understand why people feel the need. Do you not just feel angry and bitter after? Being nice to people feels so much better ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    jellybeans wrote: »
    thats exactly what I thought and I bet you wouldn't do it face to face???? you shouldn't do it though, I don't understand why people feel the need. Do you not just feel angry and bitter after? Being nice to people feels so much better ;)


    Well I am distinguishing from downright abuse and bad manners..no I wldnt do it face to face but we are not face to face..

    Sometimes people do seem to jump down other peoples throats and that should be distinguished from actual bad manners and abuse..the poster is then made feel very isolated and under attack which I dont think is the intention


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭schween


    There's a similar attitude in cars. People who normally wouldn't say boo to you blow their horn and wave and scream all from the cosiness of their car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    Well I am distinguishing from downright abuse and bad manners..no I wldnt do it face to face but we are not face to face..

    but why do you think it's not ok to do it face to face but it's ok to be a little more confrontational online? I just don't really get it. I would love to call other people hateful names when they irritate me but I hold back coz I don't think it's right. Heck there's one or two people on boards I think are complete dopes, I bet they are offline too though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    OP- its good for you..it will toughen you up.;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    There is nothing I've said to you or to others on Boards I wouldn't say face to face.

    In fact if anything I'm holding back because you are still putting people's behaviour towards you to them being "bitter and angry" rather than accepting that people behaviour towards you is dictated by yours, be it on-line or in person.

    You should really have learned that by now in your stage of life but try and heed it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    schween wrote: »
    There's a similar attitude in cars. People who normally wouldn't say boo to you blow their horn and wave and scream all from the cosiness of their car.

    ye I hate that too, people who don't let you in infront of them when two lines are merging!!! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    There is nothing I've said to you or to others on Boards I wouldn't say face to face.

    In fact if anything I'm holding back because you are still putting people's behaviour towards you to them being "bitter and angry" rather than accepting that people behaviour towards you is dictated by yours, be it on-line or in person.

    You should really have learned that by now in your stage of life but try and heed it now.

    Im sure your delightful.

    I think we should go our seperate ways Mr Incognito.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    Why should they let you in front when merging? They have the right of way so just wait for an opportunity.

    Toughen up man. Be more assertive.:mad:

    TBH I find the MODS to be the biggest irritants on the forums. Not in the way they do their job but as individual posters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭ronaneire


    jellybeans wrote: »
    people are allowed their opinions Ronan but it's rudeness and abusiveness Im talking about. If you think thats moaning fine, I think it's rude! A bit of kindness goes a long way you should try it sometime.

    I am of the opinion too that kindness over rudeness. But I imagine it is the norm for people to be on the defence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    I'm not the one with the people skills problems, the two tickets/ penalty points or the author of two threads moaning today.

    And let me know when everyone starts agreeing with you so I can come back and give them some thanks.

    I'm off to build a snowman ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    you should let people in infront of you to be NICE. I do it all the time and it makes me laugh when people don't coz it's not as if it's gonna get them there any faster! 2 lines merging into like over the toll bridge or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    I'm not the one with the people skills problems, the two tickets/ penalty points or the author of two threads moaning today.

    And let me know when everyone starts agreeing with you so I can come back and give them some thanks.

    I'm off to build a snowman ;)

    as I said Im sure your delightful. SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Tristram


    I think confrontation/disagreement/arguments are part of forum life. Irl you choose your friends and who you mix/talk with. On boards you post in threads created by god knows who about god knows what. People get called out on various things and take it poorly. A forum like this isnt really a place for sensitive users. If people want their feelings taken into account they would need to find a site with enough like-minded folk to make it happen. Boards.ie has a diverse usership, thats part of what makes it such an interesting place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    jellybeans wrote: »
    you should let people in infront of you to be NICE. I do it all the time and it makes me laugh when people don't coz it's not as if it's gonna get them there any faster! 2 lines merging into like over the toll bridge or something


    Sometimes I let people out in front of me..sometimes I dont..depends on the mood I'm in and I dont make any apology for it.

    OP- Mate dont let it get to you so much...if you do things to be nice fair play to you but you sldnt expect the same standards off other people....you feel good about doing something that should be the end of it..people will let you down and not measure up..take that as the default position in life..I do..:cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    Sometimes I let people out in front of me..sometimes I dont..depends on the mood I'm in and I dont make any apology for it.

    OP- Mate dont let it get to you so much...if you do things to be nice fair play to you but you sldnt expect the same standards off other people....you feel good about doing something that should be the end of it..people will let you down and not measure up..take that as the default position in life..I do..:cool:

    fair enough and I do do things to be nice because I have my own standards and I do keep my own council but I think Ireland has becaome a hostile unfriendly place. I spent time out of Ireland ad I swear when you come back you see how rude people are. It's becoming more like New York and London and less like the "friendly" Ireland people talk about. I think the bitterness that poeple expose on here is not just confined to the internet as a previous poster said it's on the roads it's in shops it's in bars it's turning in a fairly confrontational society. The celtic tiger maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    TBH I have never bought into the whole.."Ireland is so friendly" crap...Irish people are nosey busy bodies..they will talk to you when they want some information I find (I am Irish BTW)

    I find people in NY and London very friendly and a lot more so than in Ireland and always have done so.

    To an extent I think we are full of **** in this country..other Nationalities just dont suffer fools as gladly as we do...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    TBH I have never bought into the whole.."Ireland is so friendly" crap...Irish people are nosey busy bodies..they will talk to you when they want some information I find (I am Irish BTW)

    I find people in NY and London very friendly and a lot more so than in Ireland and always have done so.

    To an extent I think we are full of **** in this country..other Nationalities just dont suffer fools as gladly as we do...

    I just think we are out for what we can get and we don't care for the people around us. People nearly beat you out of the way to get on infront of you in the bus queue, and the same with parking spots etc. I am Irish with a slightly foreign look and Ive been racially attacked about 6 times. All my ancestors as far back as my great great grandmother are Irish. Ive been called a '******' and worse. I think Irish people are forgetting that we not just here to get ahead of someone else, to make money, to say to people what we wan't... I just think it doesn't matter whether your calling someone 'a little prick' online or face to face, it's unnecessary!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    as I said Im sure your delightful. SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!

    Reported :rolleyes:
    I just think it doesn't matter whether your calling someone 'a little prick' online or face to face, it's unnecessary!

    You called these people a$$holes twice today. Contradict yourself much?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    Reported :rolleyes:



    You called these people a$$holes twice today. Contradict yourself much?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?

    oh God not you again??????? ye I called them a$$holes for being a$$holes because I think people like them who lack common decency and who are unreasonable are A$$holes. I also think people who love to fight are A$$holes and people who are rude and abusive, yep they're A$$holes too. I thought you were going of to play with yourself and the snow


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jellybeans wrote: »
    I also think people who love to fight are A$$holes



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    :confused:



    I never posted here before, but seen the topic on the main page.

    I think people can be rude, angry, etc. for a series of different reasons. For example, you (OP) started this thread by politely asking about rudeness on the net. You're currently being rude to another member. Surely you're upset with that member, and that will carry through to your other posts on the forum. You may make many rude posts tonight, and not even realise you're doing it.

    There are many people who post on the net. Im sure the majority of people who are rude don't intend to be.


    Except youtube, but most stupid comments on that are made by idiotic kids that know no better, and must argue for the sake of it (seemingly)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    finlay.jpg


    :confused:



    I never posted here before, but seen the topic on the main page.

    I think people can be rude, angry, etc. for a series of different reasons. For example, you (OP) started this thread by politely asking about rudeness on the net. You're currently being rude to another member. Surely you're upset with that member, and that will carry through to your other posts on the forum. You may make many rude posts tonight, and not even realise you're doing it.

    There are many people who post on the net. Im sure the majority of people who are rude don't intend to be.


    Except youtube, but most stupid comments on that are made by idiotic kids that know no better, and must argue for the sake of it (seemingly)

    He called me a 'jumped up little prick' in another thread. I'm trying to lose him but I see what your getting at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    He called me a 'jumped up little prick' in another thread. I'm trying to lose him but I see what your getting at.

    Really??

    Kindly post a link to said thread.

    I call shanegans.

    Lies make baby Jesus cry.

    So, let recap, you start a thread about people being abusive on the internet and in said thread abuse people on the internet then you invent some lies to justify said abuse. You sir, are my hero. THAT's how you prove a point emphatically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    Really??

    Kindly post a link to said thread.

    I call shanegans.

    Lies make baby Jesus cry.

    So, let recap, you start a thread about people being abusive on the internet and in said thread abuse people on the internet then you invent some lies to justify said abuse. You sir, are my hero. THAT's how you prove a point emphatically.

    "If you had any semblence of intelligence you'd realise that if you are right in your "jumped up little prick" assertions, which may be true, the only way to deal with them is by killing them with kindness, telling them what they want to hear and giving them two fingers AFTER you've driven off with your apology bribed warning in tow.

    Your narcasistic rant above shows that you are still unwilling to accept the fact you were wrong. You had no tax- is that the fault of the social welfare spongers, no it's YOURS and they would not have noticed if you kept your trap shut. How do you not get how this works. It's the same with bouncers, your boss, your parents and every authority figure you are likely to encounter for the rest of your life.

    So instead of the dribble above that reads "ME ME ME ME ME". Try this at home in front of the mirror. "I was wrong, I'm sorry".

    You would be SHOCKED how accomodating people are when they hear that."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    yes, you'll note that the words jumped up little prick are italics as they referring to one your your posts. That was not referring to you personally but rather a post where you are asserting that the the guard who pulled you was a jumped up little prick. If that was unclear and you thought that was personal I have no problem clearing that up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    yes, you'll note that the words jumped up little prick are italics as they referring to one your your posts. That was not referring to you personally but rather a post where you are asserting that the the guard who pulled you was a jumped up little prick. If that was unclear and you thought that was personal I have no problem clearing that up.

    See ya, your like a dog with a bone. Bless. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    I read that and I reread the thread title and I can't help but crack a smile :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    I read that and I reread the thread title and I can't help but crack a smile :D

    :D:D:P:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Tristram


    There's life in this thread yet :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    Tristram wrote: »
    There's life in this thread yet :D

    ye are ya looking for a fight??? Ill give ya one :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Tristram


    Ill see you under the bridge troll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭jellybeans


    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,265 ✭✭✭MiCr0


    What's wrong with you two?
    This thread is locked and you two are lucky not to get banned.
    You both managed to prove all the points you were trying to make, some people on the Internet are rude.


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