Cannot use my ip camera with 3 Ireland due to shared ip address

Kileir

Hi All,

So I acquired an ip camera and have discovered I cannot access it from outside my internal network due to 3 Irelands ridiculous shared ip address policy (port forwarding etc has been configured on my router). I am out of contract with 3 by now and could move to O2 Broadband. My question is whether O2 also use shared ip addresses and would I be able to access my ip camera on O2?

jor el

There is no IP sharing on O2, you get a unique, public IP address each time you connect. Clarified by O2, here.

watty

You need real broadband for an IP camera. Mobile frequently has not enough upload speed and frequently disconnects.

Kileir

You need real broadband for an IP camera. Mobile frequently has not enough upload speed and frequently disconnects.

Not necessarily true, you can set the frame rate as low as 1 frame/sec which requires very little bandwidth. It can easily handle motion detection alarms where the upload is not constant. As for the frequent dis-connect issue - the Dovado UMR easily takes care of that.

I now have a Y-Cam black connected to a Dovado UMR with an E270 data modem at a remote location which I need to monitor. It works great for motion detection when configured to email the captured frames to my gmail account and also works great when configured for periodic sending (I've sucessfully tested it at 1 frame per minute without issue)

I can also view the camera in real time since I added an old desktop computer to which I can connect remotely using LogMeIn - Incidentally this also gives me the functionality to adjust the Camera settings remotely..

watty

Don't need an expensive IP camera for 1fps

I confess I'm used to near broadcast quality video links by IP! I wasn't thinking of stills.

shangralia

I can also view the camera in real time since I added an old desktop computer to which I can connect remotely using LogMeIn - Incidentally this also gives me the functionality to adjust the Camera settings remotely..[/quote]


Do you need to have a pc located at the remote location ?

Kileir

Do you need to have a pc located at the remote location ?

Yes. You need a PC at remote location to access the Camera via LogMeIn

shangralia

Kileir wrote: »

Yes. You need a PC at remote location to access the Camera via LogMeIn

I'm still confused on the need for the remote pc. If it's an IP camera why can't you log on to the IP direct ?

Random

I don't think you're doing it but just be aware that you cannot connect one O2 internet device to another over the O2 data network due to the way the O2 network is setup.

You'll be fine if you have o2 on the move trying to connect to a home ISP that isn't O2 but if you have O2 at home and O2 out and about you won't be able to connect to it.

Kileir

I'm still confused on the need for the remote pc. If it's an IP camera why can't you log on to the IP direct ?

Normally a remote PC is not required for an IP Camera but due to the fact that 3 Ireland (and I believe O2 and Vodafone also) use shared IP addresses together with NAT means that you cannot access the Camera directly by using its IP address hence the remote PC

shangralia

Kileir wrote: »

Normally a remote PC is not required for an IP Camera but due to the fact that 3 Ireland (and I believe O2 and Vodafone also) use shared IP addresses together with NAT means that you cannot access the Camera directly by using its IP address hence the remote PC

"shared ip" has me,

Random

With O2 you get a unique IP address. This is dynamic and may change across sessions but no two users have the same IP at the same time.

shangralia

Random wrote: »

With O2 you get a unique IP address. This is dynamic and may change across sessions but no two users have the same IP at the same time.

So where does the shared IP come from if no two users have the same IP at the same time ?

If there is a pc at remote location then there is port forwarding somewhere at remote location to get to said pc. can this not be done for the camera ?

Random

3 had a shared IP. This means if I was on 3 and you were on 3 and we both connected to the internet at the same time then our IP would be the same.

shangralia

Random wrote: »

3 had a shared IP. This means if I was on 3 and you were on 3 and we both connected to the internet at the same time then our IP would be the same.

But i tought you could never have 2 ip's the same at any one time or you would end up with an ip conflict ?

jor el

shangralia wrote: »

But i tought you could never have 2 ip's the same at any one time or you would end up with an ip conflict ?

The gateway that you connect through, has the public IP address. Three use some form of NAT/PAT from the gateway to the customer. You effectively don't get an IP address at all, but to the rest of the Internet, everyone on Three is at the same location.

shangralia

Kileir wrote: »

Hi All,

So I acquired an ip camera and have discovered I cannot access it from outside my internal network due to 3 Irelands ridiculous shared ip address policy (port forwarding etc has been configured on my router). I am out of contract with 3 by now and could move to O2 Broadband. My question is whether O2 also use shared ip addresses and would I be able to access my ip camera on O2?

What make of camera is this ? does it have push connection ?

Kileir

What make of camera is this ? does it have push connection ?

Its a Y-Cam Black - not sure what you mean by 'push' connection but you can set it up to email captured frames at periodic times or when motion detection is activated

Jonathan

Random wrote: »

With O2 you get a unique IP address. This is dynamic and may change across sessions but no two users have the same IP at the same time.

With Meteor now as well.

Random

jmccrohan wrote: »

With Meteor now as well.

Since the proper launch of BB?

Jonathan

Random wrote: »

Since the proper launch of BB?

So i've heard.

conolan

I had a webcam and 3mobile BB setup running for several months last year, ftping images every 5 mins. Only problem was that if there was a network reboot the connection died and had to be restarted. Happened about 3 times over the summer.

I've enquired about an automatic startup of the 3 connection if the computer is restarted. Told it will be possible soon. That way I could restart the computer automatically every night, so if network goes down max 24 hours without images.

Kileir

I've enquired about an automatic startup of the 3 connection if the computer is restarted. Told it will be possible soon. That way I could restart the computer automatically every night, so if network goes down max 24 hours without images.

Instead of using the Huawei dashboard to connect just use the standard Network Connection (Start-Control Panel - Network Connections)


Then just check the Redial If Line is dropped box

carsQhere

I use rasdial.exe to bring up the connection on PC start-up which works nicely.

SachaJ

you could also use fixed IP SIMs which would sort all your problems and get yourself some sort of HSUPA modem/router (on O2) for nice fast uploads.....

both the above are spendy though....