Means test-interrogation

mirror mirror

means tested yesterday.welfare person called to house and we had a chat .any savings ? do you have shares or stocks? do you own any land ? do you own any other property ? lets look at your bank statements.lets look at your wifes bank statements.any credit union a/cs.WHY COULDNT YOU FIND WORK? where have you looked for work? when i asked 1 question -how much will i be getting on jsa she couldnt or wouldnt tell me. first time having to do this.what a load of boll..ks. anyone else having to do this ? if you are be patient;)

uoluol

Don't want to sound flippant, but....that's what a means test is all about.....

It seems like you have applied for Jobseeker's Assistance, and as don't have enough contributions for a benefit payment, your means have to be assessed. So the inspector has to check any income, savings, stocks, shares etc you may have, as you don't have an automatic right to this payment.

And if you have applied for an unemployment payment, well then, one of the conditions is that you must be actively seeking and available for full time work. Expect to be asked this question from time to time! In fact you will be signing a monthly declaration to say that you are looking for full time work.

If you qualify for full time benefit, you will get €204.30 for yourself, and if your partner isn't working or has any income, €135.60. You will get €26 for each child.

DUBLINHITMAN

hi folks i need info dont know where to look so i,ll start here admin move if its not the right place ,thanks
im talking voluntary redundancy from a big dublin company after 10 years of a job that i think is just going down hill ive decided to go .
ill have some money behind me but most will go on loans ect ..
but im putting 10.000 into my morgage accont so my GF and i wont have to worry about paying for a year .
i will probably be means tested but have no idea what to say ... i wont have alot of redundancy left after the bills are paid car ,credit union and money in the morgage account .. what should i do , what will i get money wise and will this affect my GF taxes wages.

i have shares in the company do i say i have or not
i really have no clue please any info would be great

mirror mirror

yes it was jobseekers allowance,i was employee of an building company till 2000,then we had to go self employed as most builders didnt want to pay the prsi,holiday pay etc..didnt realise there was so much paperwork and stuff to signing on.first time ever having to do so [21 years working].....oh well i suppose theres someone worse off ?

snubbleste

mirror mirror wrote: »

means tested yesterday.welfare person called to house and we had a chat .
any savings ?
do you have shares or stocks?
do you own any land ?
do you own any other property ?
lets look at your bank statements.lets look at your wifes bank statements.
any credit union a/cs.
WHY COULDNT YOU FIND WORK?
where have you looked for work?
when i asked 1 question -how much will i be getting on jsa she couldnt or wouldnt tell me. first time having to do this.what a load of boll..ks. anyone else having to do this ? if you are be patient;)

If you thought it was a load of boll..ks, why did you not ask the welfare person to leave your house, refuse to do the means test & withdraw your claim to JA?

mirror mirror

If you arent working and you dont sign on the dole,what happens when your are re-employed and questions arise to what you were doing or where were you in the meantime

snubbleste

mirror mirror wrote: »

If you arent working and you dont sign on the dole,what happens when your are re-employed and questions arise to what you were doing or where were you in the meantime

Living at home, reading endless books, going for long walks, going on protest marches..or banged up in an institution.

You are not required to claim JA but be glad we live in a country that does provide a safety net when you are unemployed. The means test is there for a reason, it needs to be stringent to (attempt to)prevent abuse and the same rules apply to all

mirror mirror

thanks for that. say im unemployed for couple of months and i dont sign on, then work comes up how do i explain to taxman when i make returns what i was doing in the meantime . much as i like book reading and walking dont fancy institutions

snubbleste

mirror mirror wrote: »

thanks for that. say im unemployed for couple of months and i dont sign on, then work comes up how do i explain to taxman when i make returns what i was doing in the meantime . much as i like book reading and walking dont fancy institutions

You don't have to explain anything to the taxman unless you were economically active and not declaring it.

Good luck with your JA claim.

mirror mirror

thanks for that,i just thought that with work slack at the minute it was better to ''sign on'' that way i was on the radar screen so to speak. otherwise i wouldnt have bothered with this load of.......

TVDX

I thought when you applied there was just a follow up interview in the actual dole office.
As you are married, I'm surprised there has been an in person visit from a welfare officer.
Why has this happened?. Is it to do with a Rent allowance claim?.

Kristopherus

I think with Social Welfare you are likely to have a more severe means test than if you were a PAYE worker.

Abraham

Having read through these pages, it's very obvious why the Black Economy is so attractive and is thriving once again.

* There's no bookwork
* Don't need to issue receipts
* No bothersome VAT calculations
* No Revenue downside
* No advertising costs (value for money jobs done direct ensures
word-of-mouth advertising)
* Engage assistants on a 'need you today' basis with instant layoff
and no repercussions with hand selected staff
* Continue seamlessly with dole claim so no awkward gaps in continuous time period.
Tried and tested business model so why would anyone want to change ?

mirror mirror

no ,nothing to do with rent allowance. jobseekers allowance is means tested and seemly requires home visit-thats what im told anyway..........first time signing on so i have no prior experience with this

mirror mirror

all my bookwork is up to date,all vat returns up to date,income -tax up to date,word of mouth and references from previous work was my advertising.....continue seamlessly with dole claim so no awkward gaps in continous time period -what exactly does that mean? tried and tested business model? black econonmy?

Mrs OBumble

Abraham wrote: »

Having read through these pages, it's very obvious why the Black Economy is so attractive and is thriving once again.

* There's no bookwork
* Don't need to issue receipts
* No bothersome VAT calculations
* No Revenue downside
* No advertising costs (value for money jobs done direct ensures
word-of-mouth advertising)
* Engage assistants on a 'need you today' basis with instant layoff
and no repercussions with hand selected staff
* Continue seamlessly with dole claim so no awkward gaps in continuous time period.
Tried and tested business model so why would anyone want to change ?

Because when a recession arrives and the work drives up, you have no stamps paid which entitle you to any benefit!

Duh.

mirror mirror

JustMary wrote: »

Because when a recession arrives and the work drives up, you have no stamps paid which entitle you to any benefit!

Duh.

paying an S class prsi contribution which enables me to get jobseekers allowance which is means tested.:)previous to that paying A class prsi for about 15 years...............................duh

jimmmy

mirror mirror wrote: »

paying an S class prsi contribution which enables me to get jobseekers allowance which is means tested.:)previous to that paying A class prsi for about 15 years...............................duh

Were you given a choice to pay A or S class PRSI when you became self employed ?

On the revenue website it says the self employed pay class S PRSI and employees pay class A - it does not say that anyone has a choice in the matter. http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/leaflets/it1.html#section19

Saadyst

jimmmy wrote: »

Were you given a choice to pay A or S class PRSI when you became self employed ?

On the revenue website it says the self employed pay class S PRSI and employees pay class A - it does not say that anyone has a choice in the matter. http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/leaflets/it1.html#section19

That's quite the thread resurrection!

Max Power1

necrophilia FTW

cee_jay

Closing thread, this thread is nearly a year old. Another thread is currently open re: Self employment and PRSI S class stamps.