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BeOne Storm Default Tyres (CST C-Zar)

  • 27-01-2009 11:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭


    So, I went on my first real spin on my new BeOne Storm 2.0 today. ( I ordered it some time ago, but I had to wait for the front wheel to be retrued (CRC paid))

    About 40km in, I completely locked up my front wheel (slowing down for a roundabout at about 20kph) and ended up being one with the tarmac, in all the wrong ways. (nothing Zen like at all)

    I've done a lot of long distance cycling on an utterly awful MTB, but I've never ever locked up a front wheel before.

    The tarmac was a bit muddy where I did it (I know, because my hands and elbows and shoulders ended up muddy!), but is this enough excuse?

    Or are the supplied tyres with the BeOne Storm (CST C-Zars) basically crap and gripless?

    I am quite unnerved by the possibility of the front wheel locking up long before it comes anywhere near tipping me over the handlebars! (I always emergency stop front brake only)

    Is it worth investing in better tyres for grip?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭parko202


    i had the same tires on my bike aswell for a couple of weeks, didn't have any problems with them but all the same, I wasn't pushing them too hard. Changed them for gatorskins and happy to throw the bike around with them on. I think they are pretty cheap at the moment on wiggle??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    I presume by locked you mean the wheel locked and you skidded? It can happen in the wet, generally in wet/icy/muddy conditions you should use the back brake more as you can usually control a back wheel skid but not a front wheel one. In dry conditions the front brake only is indeed the way to go.

    Some racing tyres are grippier than others but to be honest I am not sure there is such a massive difference in wet conditions; I don't have any experience of your specific tyres.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Tau


    Well, it was generally dry today, so I used the front brake only.

    Unfortunately, the front wheel then skidded, and as one uses the front wheel to correct skids, this was unrecoverable. (and my swollen knees can attest to this)

    It definitely wasn't wet, but those few meters of tarmac were a bit muddy. (it was getting dark, so I didn't notice this until I was lying on the tarmac) I know to use the back brake if I'm expecting any complications, but I wasn't (a bit of mud here and there just happens I suppose).

    I suppose I'm just looking to see if anyone else has had bad experiences with these particular tyres.

    I've just bought the bike, so for the moment I'm a bit skint. Top of my purchase list is a set of clipless pedals + cycling shoes, basically I'm wondering if I should buy better tyres first?

    (I can afford to do buy one of these upgrades this month, the other next month!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭zzzzzzzz


    I'd say it is advisable to replace the standard tyres on any entry level bike.

    Whether or not you would have stayed up if you'd had better tyres, I couldn't say. There's a big difference between a road bike and a mountain bike in terms of handling & grip - maybe you just need to take it easy until you have a feel for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,222 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    New car tyres are very slippery due to the release compound used to get them out of the moulds. It takes a few miles to rub that off.

    Maybe bike tyres are the same.

    Since this was your first ride, I'd go easy for a couple more rides and see how they bed in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭zzzzzzzz


    Lumen wrote: »
    New car tyres are very slippery due to the release compound used to get them out of the moulds. It takes a few miles to rub that off.

    Maybe bike tyres are the same.

    Since this was your first ride, I'd go easy for a couple more rides and see how they bed in.

    Ah come on - I thought this forum was about trying to make people spend loads of money and build up vast amounts of credit card debt. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    I generally leave my tyres on until they wear out and have been pleasantly surprised, the tyres that came on my Bowery for example have stood up very well and I've only have one punture in several thousand km. They are maybe not the grippiest and I reckon I will go for something grippier when I replace them. They do seem to hold up well to skid stopping though.

    OP- ok, it wasn't generally wet but it was muddy where you slipped, I would probably put it down to this rather than the tyres.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭AstraMonti


    I have done 700kms with these tyres Tau as i have the storm 1.0 which has the same tyres. I have fallen once and that was because it was a very very cold morning (probably minus) with a bit of icy patches here and there, took a very sharp turn and ended arguing with the pavement. I also had one puncture and that was because i run over a piece of glass. Other than that i have found them to be good at stopping even in wet. I am not very experienced to tell you about grip and stuff but they haven't given me a reason yet to change them (apart from the looks :P).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Tayto2000


    I remember changing from mtb slicks to a road bike, it can take some getting used to, especially the fact that you've got a much smaller contact patch to play with... Nearly got caught out once or twice alright.

    Tbh, from the sounds of it, you were just unlucky... Darkness + mud at lean = spill. Semi-dried road mud has characteristics not unlike grease...

    I'd second Blog, give the tyres a little time to bed in and you to adjust before deciding if you want to change them.


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